Ello Folks,
Thank you for yer kind werds. I guess posts like this sadly enough is a bit over the head of the average dub, eh?
Norm
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13Jehovah "Tempers his Justice"
by Norm insomeone among the top brass in brooklyn have had a rare moment of thought and come up with another adjustment in the endless line watchtower society new light.. some of you probably remember when they became tired of the expression: the society says, which of course identified to clearly who is really god in the lives of the witnesses, so they had to tell the witnesses to stop using that expression because it was extremely embarrassing.. this time it is another expression that shouldnt be used.
not at all of the magnitude of the example above but still sufficiently important to someone, probably in the gb.
i guess it took a couple of heated sessions in the gb to get this approved.
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Jehovah "Tempers his Justice"
by Norm insomeone among the top brass in brooklyn have had a rare moment of thought and come up with another adjustment in the endless line watchtower society new light.. some of you probably remember when they became tired of the expression: the society says, which of course identified to clearly who is really god in the lives of the witnesses, so they had to tell the witnesses to stop using that expression because it was extremely embarrassing.. this time it is another expression that shouldnt be used.
not at all of the magnitude of the example above but still sufficiently important to someone, probably in the gb.
i guess it took a couple of heated sessions in the gb to get this approved.
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Someone among the top brass in Brooklyn have had a rare moment of thought and come up with another “adjustment” in the endless line Watchtower Society “New Light”.
Some of you probably remember when they became tired of the expression: “The Society says”, which of course identified to clearly who is really God in the lives of the Witnesses, so they had to tell the Witnesses to stop using that expression because it was extremely embarrassing.
This time it is another expression that shouldn’t be used. Not at all of the magnitude of the example above but still sufficiently important to someone, probably in the GB. I guess it took a couple of heated sessions in the GB to get this approved. Anyway, here goes:
OUESTIONS FROM READERS
The magazine answers:
Is it correct to say that Jehovah's mercy tempers his justice?
30 THE WATCHTOWER MARCH 1, 2002Although this expression has been used, it is best to avoid it since it seems to imply that Jehovah's mercy softens or restrains his justice, as if his mercy were superior to the harsher quality of justice. This is not correct.
30 THE WATCHTOWER MARCH 1, 2002
Well, of course! We can’t have anyone believing that God’s mercy is superior to or stronger than his justice. For those who cling to the idea that God is omni this and that can’t have any internal imbalance in his qualities you know!Jehovah is a God of both justice and mercy. (Exodus 34:6, 7; Deuteronomy 32:4; Psalm 145:9) His justice and his mercy are both perfect, and they work together harmoniously. (Psalm 116:5; Hosea 2:19) Both qualities perfectly balance or complement each other. Hence, if we were to say that Jehovah's mercy tempered his justice, we would also have to say that his justice tempered his mercy.
Who were the idiots that didn’t have this profound wisdom in the first place? Of course it couldn’t be the Faithful and discreet slave could it? Well, let’s have a look:
30 THE WATCHTOWER MARCH 1, 2002*** w65 7/1 415 Tempering Justice with Mercy ***
As during Noah’s day when Jehovah tempered his justice by deferring execution for 120 years, so today he tempers his justice by deferring his war, called “the war of the great day of God the Almighty.” (Rev. 16:14) Since 1918, he has shown undeserved kindness toward disobedient mankind by holding back his executional forces in the heavens in order that some “flesh would be saved.”Apparently Jehovah didn’t possess this perfect balance in the days of Noah because we have the Word of the Watchtower magazine itself that Jehovah had to “temper his justice” for 120 years. Of course it will be equally wrong to say that Jehovah will show anyone “undeserved kindness”. Since he is perfect he will be unable to show mercy towards those who don’t deserve it, right?
Jehovah seems to have several problems according to the Watchtower magazine because here he is again:*** w97 12/1 10-11 Jehovah, a God "Ready to Forgive" ***
Again Jehovah seems to be quite a shoddy “potter” having made such bad quality pottery. But according to the Bible he at least seems to be aware of how he has screwed up, at least some times. But the Watchtower magazine has occasionally reminded us about how utterly without any chance we are if it wasn’t for God’s constantly tempers his “cold justice” with “kindness and mercy”:
Why Is Jehovah “Ready to Forgive”?
4 We read: “As far off as the sunrise is from the sunset, so far off from us he has put our transgressions. As a father shows mercy to his sons, Jehovah has shown mercy to those fearing him.” Why is Jehovah disposed to show mercy? The next verse answers: “For he himself well knows the formation of us, remembering that we are dust.” (Psalm 103:12-14) Yes, Jehovah does not forget that we are creatures of dust, having frailties, or weaknesses, as a result of imperfection. The expression that he knows “the formation of us” reminds us that the Bible likens Jehovah to a potter and us to the vessels he forms. (Jeremiah 18:2-6) A potter handles his clay vessels firmly yet delicately, ever mindful of their nature. So, too, Jehovah, the Great Potter, tempers his dealings with us according to the frailty of our sinful nature.—Compare 2 Corinthians 4:7.*** w65 7/1 413-4 Tempering Justice with Mercy ***
Tempering Justice with Mercy
IN THE shop of an apothecary there usually is a set of balance scales that is capable of weighing very small amounts of fine powder. A standard weight is placed on one pan and powder is put on the other one until there is enough powder to balance the weight. Justice is like that scale. When a person’s actions are compared with a specific law and they do not balance out because he has been disobedient to that law, justice requires that he be punished. This action balances the scales of justice. But should the rendering of justice be limited to the cold balancing of matters?
The great God of the universe has given mankind good laws, and from time to time he has had to balance the scales of justice by punishing those who violate those laws. In so doing, however, he warms up cold justice and tempers it with kindness and mercy. A representing angel said of him: “Jehovah, Jehovah, a God merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abundant in loving-kindness and truth.” (Ex. 34:6) Such are the gracious qualities he puts into the scales of justice.
When one violates God’s law, thus throwing off balance the scales of divine justice, action must be taken to right matters. Strict justice calls for punishment to the full extent specified by the law. However, when heartfelt repentance is shown on the part of the wrongdoer, mercy can be extended. Such mercy is not something that God owes to one who violates His law; it is an undeserved kindness, but the sincere repentance of the sinner provides a basis for mercy to be shown. As a result there may be a lessening of the punishment administered. In the case of King David, the sentence of death was not carried out on him when he sinned with Uriah’s wife because of his sincere repentance. “David now said to Nathan: ‘I have sinned against Jehovah.’ At this Nathan said to David: ‘Jehovah, in turn, does let your sin pass by. You will not die.’” (2 Sam. 12:13) But he was punished by losing his infant son by Bathsheba.Above we get a reminder of how Jehovah apparently meted out his “tempering” of his “cold justice” in the case of David. Of course he did this by killing Bathsheba’s baby. Well, those of us who are familiar with Jehovah and Moses treatment of Midianite and Canaanite babies and children aren’t very surprised. Babies are quite expendable and who would bother to ask Bathsheba what she would think about her dead baby? How about parenting?
*** w55 7/15 421 How Bible Principles Apply to Your Life ***
The instructions about child training? The responsibility is upon the parents to train the children in the right way. “Train up a child in the way he should go, and even when he is old he will not depart from it.” Proper parental authority must be exercised: “Withhold not correction from the child; for if thou beat him with the rod, he will not die. Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from Sheol.” However, this should never be in anger, just to ease the parent’s emotions, but should be tempered with mercy, justice and love, and should be consistent, just as Jehovah tempers his discipline with mercy, justice and love and is always consistent. To parents who themselves set the right example, and who properly discharge this obligation, delinquency is no problem.—Prov. 22:6; 23:13, 14, A .Well, now no Jehovah's Witness can imitate Jehovah again, because Brooklyn has come to the conclusion that Jehovah does not TEMPER his justice. So when you feel it is appropriate you should follow the Biblical counsel of beating the crap out of your children and stone them if necessary.
*** w52 8/15 489-90 In the Image and Likeness of God ***
Yes, isn’t it heartwarming to see how Jehovah’s organization cares for the hungry and the unfortunate children in the world? In stark contrast to the UN and the Churches of Christendom, the “Man of Lawlessness” which never do anything. I mean the Watchtower Society do almost as much (gasp) as Jehovah himself to help the poor.
God’s law in Israel stipulated regular provision for the poor, and not on the basis of favors in return, either. (Ex. 23:11) Furthermore, Jehovah tempers his absolute justice with undeserved kindness, something for which modern man has no parallel in his merciless international dealings. Were it not for this mercy none of us would have been born following the rebellion of Adam. But this does not require God to simply overlook this fallen world’s travesty on justice, as he shows by the warning to Israel when guilty of the same:*** op 28 Our Problems-Who Will Help Us Solve Them? ***
Aw, that pesky free will! Why didn’t these idiots understand that free will isn’t really FREE? I mean free will doesn’t mean that it is FREE. Like Jehovah's Witnesses is only free to do what they tell them to do from Brooklyn, so was Adam and Eve only free to do what Jehovah wanted them to do. That was FREE will! But then it wasn’t really free you might say, shut up we don’t want to hear about that. But if someone tells you that you have free will but that he will kill you if you use it, is that really free will?
“The Bible tells us that our problems started when the first human pair that God created misused their free will and chose to disobey God’s wise instructions. God had warned them of the punishment for doing so—loss of perfection, loss of their Paradise home, and loss of their right to continue to live on earth forever. God justly enforced his laws. This left their offspring crying, as it were, because of their great loss. But because God tempers his justice with love, he arranged to give humans the chance to regain what the first pair had lost. Like the kind gentleman in the illustration, God provided the exact price of what had been lost. He did this by sending his own spirit son from heaven to be born on earth as a human known as Jesus Christ. When Jesus willingly sacrificed his perfect human life, which was equal to the life that the first man, Adam, had forfeited, and presented the value to God, then that price could be used to buy back for humankind what had been lost, namely, perfect life forever on a paradise earth.”
If a jailer releases you from jail and say you are free to go, then also tell you that he will shoot you if you go, is that really a free choice? Well anyway that’s the kind of free will that was offered Adam and Eve, and it is exactly the kind of free will all those wonderful Christians are recommending so warmly.How wonderful it is to have done a little investigation and a little thinking and being able to see how much the justice and love of God really sucks?
Norm.
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Silentlambs: Modern-day Folk Hero?
by Derrick inhe's the "knight in shining armor" for many young ones across the globe, who were spared from predators moving in for the kill.
who was instrumental amongst jehovah's witnesses in chasing these monsters off?
it should have been brothers in the watchtower society.
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Norm
Rick;
Norm, getting serious, why don't you at least take a stab at refuting the scriptures I gave, rather than simply taking stabs in the dark? Why resort to what you yourself call "hand wringing" and "special pleading" in dancing the verbal rumba around these scriptures?
Sorry Rick, there is nothing to refute in your post. You failed to explain away why Jehovah and Moses had to butcher thousands of men, women and children, you also failed miserably in proving that Jehovah care for any of them today, in short your post amounted to nothing but verbose hand waving and special pleading. Particularly pathetic was this:[quoteRick: ]The history of human civilization has without argument been a bloodbath of pain and suffering for all. All of those precious little babies who died, and everyone else for that matter who suffered the wages of our sinful condition brought about from the disobedience of our ancestors Adam and Eve, will return to life someday! They will not remember their pain and suffering, Norm, so why concern yourself?[/quote]
Yes, why do we concern ourselves with pedophiles, criminals an terrorists, Rick? Well, the simple answer is that many of us human beings are far superior to your fantasy figure in the sky, Rick.
Norm.
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Silentlambs: Modern-day Folk Hero?
by Derrick inhe's the "knight in shining armor" for many young ones across the globe, who were spared from predators moving in for the kill.
who was instrumental amongst jehovah's witnesses in chasing these monsters off?
it should have been brothers in the watchtower society.
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Norm
anewperson,
You said:
anewperson: Norm, you are trying to impress us with your repertoire of filthy language. But to answer you point-blank the assumption was that up to about age 10 any captured female children were deemed virgins, no need to do a physical examination. I've done no wiggling at all but so far you've tried to throw off my question by your wordage and effort to laugh it off. Norm, lots of people read some of these threads. You'll have to do better than try to blow things away with a quick laugh. Cease your diatribe so get serious and answer us calmly with logic and reasoning instead of weak emotionalism.
Weak emotinalism I leave to the "true believers" after all they are the experts there. I try to deal with reality and as such I am still waiting for your explanation of how and when Jah has helped all the millions of victims of child abuse? Your allusion to some kind of mystic future resurrection do not help much in explaining away the obvious negligence and callousness of this Jah figure you keep bleating about.You have still to deal with several of the problems in the two Bible texts I quoted. Let us look at them once more:
*** Rbi8 Numbers 31:14-18 ***
And Moses grew indignant at the appointed men of the combat forces, the chiefs of the thousands and the chiefs of the hundreds who were coming in from the military expedition. 15 So Moses said to them: “Have YOU preserved alive every female? … 17 And now kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has had intercourse with man by lying with a male. 18 And preserve alive for yourselves all the little ones among the women who have not known the act of lying with a male.*** Rbi8 Judges 21:10-12 ***
10 Hence the assembly proceeded to send twelve thousand of the most valiant men there and to command them, saying: “Go, and YOU must strike the inhabitants of Ja'besh-gil'e•ad with the edge of the sword, even the women and the little ones. 11 And this is the thing that YOU should do: Every male and every woman that has experienced lying with a male YOU should devote to destruction.” 12 However, they found out of the inhabitants of Ja'besh-gil'e•ad four hundred girls, virgins, that had not had intercourse with a man by lying with a male. So they brought them to the camp at Shi'loh, which is in the land of Ca'naan.Since you were obviously there and saw that they considered every girl up to the age of ten to be a virgin, then you might tell us how you feel about the killing of these girls brothers which were obviously killed no matter what age they were. All the pregnant women were also killed, and there might even have been a couple of 12 or 13 year old virgins there too. Do you think that the acts of Moses and the Israelites butchering all these pregnant women and children show that Jah love children and cared for them?
Does anything this Jah of yours have done ever since showed us that he cares for anyone, including children? Don't you think it is about time YOU think before you come in and throw completely meaningless religious clichees about?
And apart from the word "bullshit" what "filthy" language has been used? But of course you have to cling to whatever straw you can find in order to avoid the issue, right?
Norm.
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Silentlambs: Modern-day Folk Hero?
by Derrick inhe's the "knight in shining armor" for many young ones across the globe, who were spared from predators moving in for the kill.
who was instrumental amongst jehovah's witnesses in chasing these monsters off?
it should have been brothers in the watchtower society.
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Norm
Hello again Rick,
You said:
Rick: Norm, although the Bible writers were inspired of God to write the canonized scriptures (both Hebrew and Greek), the message was NOT intended to be "perfect." An example of perfection was the ten commandments which Jehovah inscribed in stone for Moses. As you well know the Bible was NOT inscribed by Jehovah directly. It was penned by imperfect humans.
Ah, here we go with usual excusogetics. It will be funny to watch this verbal acrobatics in a desperate attempt to explain away awkward Bible texts.
Rick: Now suppose the ten commandments were penned by Moses instead of directly by Jehovah? Can you imagine the possible biases that might creep into the text?
Then why did Jehovah chose to use ordinary, imperfect and sometimes biased humans to inspired to write down the Biblical account?Suppose? They weren’t even penned my Moses Rick. Read the text and you don’t have to IMAGINE anything. Only Israeli lives counted, all other people were worthless. If Jehovah in any way USED these murdering bastards he is of course responsible. No way you can wiggle out of that Rick.
Rick: As you may recall in the book of Proverbs, the divinely inspired wise man wrote: "The path of the righteous is like the first gleam of dawn, shining ever brighter till the full light of day." (Proverbs 4:18)
Uh oh, here we go, hand waving and special pleading using the “divine” word to refute or explain away another “divine” word. What a discipline.
Rick: The Hebrew scriptures are "like the first gleam of dawn," Norm, when the world was in a primitive age and mankind were for the most part barbarians. Jehovah had to work with these primitives, and somehow communicate with them. They related to Jehovah as a God of war, because war is all they knew. Much of the barbarianism you read in the Hebrew scriptures originated from man during the course of God's leading him, ultimately, toward this age of enlightenment, in preparation for the grand finale ... a kingdom of peace and prosperity.
Yes, poor Jehovah, he HAD to assist them in their genocide and ethnic cleansing, wholesale slaughter and all kinds of atrocities. This loving, all wise, all knowing, all powerful being, he just HAD to. What prime time manure you serve Rick. Do you actually read what you say here Rick?
Rick: You might argue that even if Jehovah didn't give the orders to kill those precious little babies and other heinous acts against women and kids, that he bears responsibility. You have argued that God has the power not to sit back and watch bad things to happen to good people. However, in all due respect, your reasoning is marred. You seem to keep ignoring the bigger picture.
Yeah, you might argue all kinds of lame excuses Rick, and indeed you do. Well, if we are to believe that God is Omnipotent he is indeed watching BAD things happen, and here we go again, you continue to produce more hopeless lame hand waving and excuses.
Rick: In Isaiah 30:26, notice that Jehovah takes full responsibility for the acts of people whom, in retrospect, we now view as barbarians: "The moon will shine like the sun, and the sunlight will be seven times brighter, like the light of seven full days, when the LORD binds up the bruises of his people and heals the wounds he inflicted."
This scripture appears to point to an age of enlightenment when knowledge of Jehovah's creation -- from the sciences to earth's geologic history to the human anatomy and its health to moral awareness -- will be abundant amongst humans. The suffering humans endured throughout history and the "bruises" that Jehovah inflicted on people were for a purpose. Although mankind could have obliterated itself, we have reached this present-day golden age of prosperity and spiritual enlightenment. Soon in a symbolic but very real sense the collective light of seven full days of human experience as Jehovah patiently helped his creation reach a spiritual plateau, will shine extremely brightly. So brightly will it shine, that even the Moon that reflects sunlight "will shine like the sun, and the sunlight will be seven times brighter." All these terrible things you point to that mankind has endured through human history are coming to an end, Norm, when Jehovah "binds up the bruises of his people and heals the wounds he inflicted." Again, these wounds were really inflicted by imperfect men but Jehovah takes full responsibility.All I can say Rick is that you should make an extensive study of history and you will find that the progress mankind has done towards enlightenment, democracy and human rights only became possible because the power of Bible thumping morons were diminished.
Rick: I was determined to keep the explanation simple. I hope you can now understand that there was no other way for Jehovah to bring humanity from its debased state after the fall of Adam and Eve, to its present state of spiritual enlightenment and preparation for the restoration of Eden. This restoration will be accomplished through the divine cleansing our planet to ecological perfection.
Yup, it was extremely simple Rick, simple and complete hogwash.
Rick: The history of human civilization has without argument been a bloodbath of pain and suffering for all. All of those precious little babies who died, and everyone else for that matter who suffered the wages of our sinful condition brought about from the disobedience of our ancestors Adam and Eve, will return to life someday! They will not remember their pain and suffering, Norm, so why concern yourself?
Yes, what shining examples of reasoning. Why concern myself with the crimes committed with molesting children, why do Bill bother? Why this uproar over September 11th? All those people will be resurrected! Wow! You really do have a good grasp of this haven’t you, Rick?
Rick: I'm not minimizing it, but this is par for the course in human history. Blaming God when these tragedies were a consequence of God's efforts to SAVE mankind -- and when all concerned will live forever in peace and joy without the memories of their past and primitive lives -- is completely illogical in light mankind's final outcome when Jehovah assures us that "He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away." (Revelation 21:4)
Derrick
Yes, the usual bullshit. Don’t worry about this life, your real life begins after death. Rick. Dear oh dear, where have we heard that before? As I expected you offered no explanations regarding what my "lies" were.
Norm
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Silentlambs: Modern-day Folk Hero?
by Derrick inhe's the "knight in shining armor" for many young ones across the globe, who were spared from predators moving in for the kill.
who was instrumental amongst jehovah's witnesses in chasing these monsters off?
it should have been brothers in the watchtower society.
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anewperson,
You said:
This same thing was on another thread to which I replied the young women were not raped as you presume, Norm, but made servants, God slew but will also resurrect these people (Jn 3:16); so if you want to call God WICKED for slaying, Norm, then will you also judge him FAIR & merciful because of his provision to resurrect them? Repeating your own words just above, will YOU try to "wiggle out" of this?
LOL, what is there to wiggle out of? As I expected you didn't spend much time on the two Bible texts. Care to explain how you find out if 32,000 girls are wirgins? How many girls did they have to examine before they found those 32,000? What sick and perverted God you worship. He turns a blind eye to the suffering of innocent children, watch them getting molested and killed, doesn't lift a finger. But oh, ah, he is going to ressurect them, yeah right. The usual gobbledeegook. "True you have a horrible life right now, but the next one will be swell". What incredible bullshit.Norm.
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Silentlambs: Modern-day Folk Hero?
by Derrick inhe's the "knight in shining armor" for many young ones across the globe, who were spared from predators moving in for the kill.
who was instrumental amongst jehovah's witnesses in chasing these monsters off?
it should have been brothers in the watchtower society.
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anewperson,
You said:
All good things come from God
Please read the word of the Bible and tell what GOOD came from God in this case:*** Rbi8 Numbers 31:14-18 ***
And Moses grew indignant at the appointed men of the combat forces, the chiefs of the thousands and the chiefs of the hundreds who were coming in from the military expedition. 15 So Moses said to them: “Have YOU preserved alive every female? … 17 And now kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has had intercourse with man by lying with a male. 18 And preserve alive for yourselves all the little ones among the women who have not known the act of lying with a male.*** Rbi8 Judges 21:10-12 ***
10 Hence the assembly proceeded to send twelve thousand of the most valiant men there and to command them, saying: “Go, and YOU must strike the inhabitants of Ja'besh-gil'e•ad with the edge of the sword, even the women and the little ones. 11 And this is the thing that YOU should do: Every male and every woman that has experienced lying with a male YOU should devote to destruction.” 12 However, they found out of the inhabitants of Ja'besh-gil'e•ad four hundred girls, virgins, that had not had intercourse with a man by lying with a male. So they brought them to the camp at Shi'loh, which is in the land of Ca'naan.Don't try to wiggle out of it, explain what good God was doing here?
Norm
PS. Bill is indeed doing a very good job, but can you please tell me what Jah has ever done? Where was this Jah when all these children was molested in the first place? I know Bill would have stopped those from taking place if he could, so would I, but Jah didn't, so again what have jah done?
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Silentlambs: Modern-day Folk Hero?
by Derrick inhe's the "knight in shining armor" for many young ones across the globe, who were spared from predators moving in for the kill.
who was instrumental amongst jehovah's witnesses in chasing these monsters off?
it should have been brothers in the watchtower society.
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Norm
Rick,
You bleated:
Poor-in-spirit Norm, you continue to perpetrate these lies against God every chance you get. It is quite obvious you are filled with anger against One whom you so thoroughly misunderstand -- even to the point of rage -- and direct your hostility to the One who has blessed you with prosperity in Norway.
Yes Rick, isn't horrible how the Bible keep LYING about God:I can't help wondering whom do you thank when good things in life come your way?
*** Rbi8 Numbers 31:14-18 ***
Could you please point to the spesific lies in the Bible text above?
And Moses grew indignant at the appointed men of the combat forces, the chiefs of the thousands and the chiefs of the hundreds who were coming in from the military expedition. 15 So Moses said to them: “Have YOU preserved alive every female? … 17 And now kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has had intercourse with man by lying with a male. 18 And preserve alive for yourselves all the little ones among the women who have not known the act of lying with a male.*** Rbi8 Judges 21:10-12 ***
10 Hence the assembly proceeded to send twelve thousand of the most valiant men there and to command them, saying: “Go, and YOU must strike the inhabitants of Ja'besh-gil'e•ad with the edge of the sword, even the women and the little ones. 11 And this is the thing that YOU should do: Every male and every woman that has experienced lying with a male YOU should devote to destruction.” 12 However, they found out of the inhabitants of Ja'besh-gil'e•ad four hundred girls, virgins, that had not had intercourse with a man by lying with a male. So they brought them to the camp at Shi'loh, which is in the land of Ca'naan.
While you are at it maybe you could also explain in what way Jehovah did show how he loved and cared for children in that text above. Of course both you and I know that you will never even try to do that Rick.
Again, it would also be nice if you could explain how anyone can hate a figment of your imagination, a product of old superstition. How can anyone hate something that doesn't exist Rick?When good things in life comes to me Rick it is either because of what I myself do or as a result of that some other human being care for me, or sheer coincidence. I don't have to have som fantasy figure who are responsible for all good or bad things that happens in life. But you are unable to understand such a simple thing, right?
Norm.
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Silentlambs: Modern-day Folk Hero?
by Derrick inhe's the "knight in shining armor" for many young ones across the globe, who were spared from predators moving in for the kill.
who was instrumental amongst jehovah's witnesses in chasing these monsters off?
it should have been brothers in the watchtower society.
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Norm
Hey there anewperson,
You said:
All true. May Jah bless the Little Ones some of whom are now adults. May they all get to stand taller and with far greater joy than the powerful ones whom He shall shatter by the might of the real Truth in the news spotlight.
If we for a moment take time to consider Jah’s track record so far in helping the “little ones” I am afraid that the future for them looks just as bleak and hopeless as the past.
Jah has never shown any interest whatsoever in the little ones other than causing them even more harm.Where was and is Jah, Jehovah, Jesus, the Holy Spirit when millions of “little ones” were abused? Are they all asleep? What is the best they can do? As it turns out in reality, the Watchtower Society organization with all these “wonderful shepherds”, duly appointed by all the big shots in heaven and on earth are utterly powerless to protect their children against pedophile predators in their midst. On the contrary, they protected the molesters.
In reality we should be on our guard against all who claim to be appointed by Jehovah. As we know Moses was apparently appointed by him, and it would be wrong to claim that the welfare of children had a very high priority in the mind of this “most humble man on earth” This is what the Moses and Jah did to the “little ones”:*** Rbi8 Numbers 31:14-18 ***
And Moses grew indignant at the appointed men of the combat forces, the chiefs of the thousands and the chiefs of the hundreds who were coming in from the military expedition. 15 So Moses said to them: “Have YOU preserved alive every female? … 17 And now kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has had intercourse with man by lying with a male. 18 And preserve alive for yourselves all the little ones among the women who have not known the act of lying with a male.*** Rbi8 Judges 21:10-12 ***
10 Hence the assembly proceeded to send twelve thousand of the most valiant men there and to command them, saying: “Go, and YOU must strike the inhabitants of Ja'besh-gil'e•ad with the edge of the sword, even the women and the little ones. 11 And this is the thing that YOU should do: Every male and every woman that has experienced lying with a male YOU should devote to destruction.” 12 However, they found out of the inhabitants of Ja'besh-gil'e•ad four hundred girls, virgins, that had not had intercourse with a man by lying with a male. So they brought them to the camp at Shi'loh, which is in the land of Ca'naan.According to the Watchtower, and the Bible Jehovah do not change, so it turns out that his priorities regarding children doesn’t seem to have changed all that much. Thousands if “little ones” have been molested in the Watchtower Society, the Catholic Church and in all societies. This has been done for as long as mankind has existed and not once has Jah done anything about it. As documented above he actually ordered his wonderful “chosen people” to abuse the “little ones”. We have absolutely no reason to expect much from an organization who worship such a God, and the one who is described in Bible. People have a tendency to be like their Deity:
“Author Amos Oz recently noted: “It is typical of religious fanatics . . . that the ‘orders’ they get from God are always, essentially, one order: Thou shalt kill. The god of all fanatics sounds more like the devil.
I am afraid that if the “little ones” has any hope to be protected it takes people like Bill Bowen and other human beings who are decent enough to make a difference. Jah seem to be the absolute worst abuser of them all.Norm.
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by Kent inkingdom ministry school for congregational elders.
for the 2002 service year .
hi folks!.
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Norm
Hi Kent,
When will you share that taped GB session with us all. That would be even more interesting don't you think?
Norm