Posts by knowsnothing1

a lot of the subjects that i wanted to talk about have already been covered so i wont bother restarting a topic that's been done to death.. im a 3rd generation, born-in, jw.

currently faded.

I'm fascinated by Satanists. They are an interesting and diverse group. I've seen Satanists seem to have a fascination with death and the occult. Do you relate? I see you have the tarot card of death as your avatar.

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Languages, Dialects, Accents

by LoveUniHateExams in

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friends

just though i'd start a thread devoted to languages, dialects/sociolects and accents, with the idea being that posters can comment on any language, or dialect or accent of any language, on this thread.. any phrases, expressions or idioms that you find interesting are also welcome.

first, the subject of english accents came up on another thread.. the british isles have many different types of accent (although many of the dialects may be dying out), and if i start to take a closer look, i can't help but see 'patterns' .... in received pronunciation of standard english, the letter r is pronounced initially, between vowels, and after consonants, e.g.

red, arrow, break.

knowsnothing1

Fascinating Dio.

I love languages as well. I especially love the fact that most languages in Europe are related to one another in the language family called Indo-European.

For example, Father in this language group as follows:

English : father

Spanish : padre

German : vater

Portuguese : pai

Dutch : Vader

French : pére

Hindi : pita

Latin : pater

Greek : patéras

Icelandic : faðir

Danish, Swedish, Norwegian : far

Armenian : hayry

Punjabi : pita ji

The Slavic languages don't have a cognate with this word, but they do for many others like brother and sister.

In Russian brother and sister:

brat

s'estra

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Spirit Channeling at Wallkill's Bethel

by Marie33 in

look what an ex-bethelite has to say about the spirit channeling he saw first hand up at wallkill:.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfmqnzbyrko.

now i believe rayven's story of horror at brooklyn bethel:.

knowsnothing1

Deegee,

Thanks for your kind words. I have been rather busy, I don't have time to give you an adequate response, but know that I am not the only one with these experiences.

Did you watch the video of the ex Satanist?

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Spirit Channeling at Wallkill's Bethel

by Marie33 in

look what an ex-bethelite has to say about the spirit channeling he saw first hand up at wallkill:.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfmqnzbyrko.

now i believe rayven's story of horror at brooklyn bethel:.

knowsnothing1

deegee,

You continue to question God without acknowledging his existence. I'm baffled really.

I have not responded to all your points because I am responding from my phone. I don't always have access to a computer, when I have time I will attempt to address all your questions.

As for the panic attacks, I will give you a better background on how they began and all that I went through.

I used to live in Florida in 2016, but got laid off. I wasn't making too much money doing Uber and Lyft, and at that time I was still a JW, physically in, mentally out. I wanted to get out of being a JW, but I didn't want to lose contact with my mom, so I was able to get work as a medical interpreter in Virginia through the witnesses. I moved end of January 2017.

I managed to get a cheap apartment and also started working at a bank to supplement my income. The problem was I couldn't get away from the witnesses because they had contact with my mom, and so I was forced to go out in field service and to the meetings with them.

This made me very depressed. I was finding no escape. I had suicidal thoughts. I would play video games till 4 or 5 in the morning and sometimes only get 1 or 2 hours of sleep.

One morning I woke up early after 5 hours of sleep. It was on a Monday. I couldn't go back to sleep and I felt bad. I started to prepare to go to the hospital, I was going to drive myself. Before I was fully dressed, I had my first full blown panic attack. I had never had one like that before, and so I called the ambulance. I thought I was having a heart attack. My heart rate must have gone up to about 150? I laid against the door of my apartment on the outside waiting for the ambulance. I felt as if I were about to faint. It was a terrible experience. They took my vitals and my blood pressure was a bit high, but not too bad. I requested I be taken to the hospital. Obviously they found nothing.

This was only the beginning. I went to the hospital many times after that. In one episode my blood pressure was 166 over 95, but still my heart was working just fine. I had to quit my job and my sister offered me to stay at her apartment in California. She flew to Virginia so that we could take my car driving to California. I drove for as long as I could before I got a panic attack and then she had to take over.

Once in California, I almost immediately went to a psychiatrist. They prescribed Xanax(anti-anxiety), citalopram(anti-depressant), and gabapentin (for muscle twitches at night). I took these medications faithfully.

A therapist started coming to the apartment. I did all the exercises he asked. Breathing techniques, grounding, decatastrophizing, yoga, guided meditation.

I went several times to the hospital in California as well. I even ended up in the psych ward a partial night. I had had a manic episode the night before where I fled at 2:45 am in my car (the first and only time such a spontaneous act I committed) They didn't find anything sufficiently wrong with me to merit staying, but I still had trouble sleeping and so they prescribed Seroquel (anti-bipolar/anti-psychotic drug).

I tried everything under the sun. Homeopathic medicine, healthy eating, exercising daily, you name it. I took a long break from religion and decided just to live my life as I pleased. In California I had that freedom.

Nothing worked my friend. I would still have panic attacks. Some weeks more frequent, some less, but it persisted.

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Spirit Channeling at Wallkill's Bethel

by Marie33 in

look what an ex-bethelite has to say about the spirit channeling he saw first hand up at wallkill:.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfmqnzbyrko.

now i believe rayven's story of horror at brooklyn bethel:.

knowsnothing1

deegee,

Yes, I think we've come at an impasse in our discussion. I do appreciate the time you've taken to show me the dark side of meditation. I certainly agree that there are situations where it can drive you mad.

However, my case was far from it. I was not seeking God at first. I was trying to live my life as distant as possible to God or and religion for that matter. It was only through God's power that I stopped having the panic attacks. I tried everything I could in my own hands to control it, but I couldn't.

I hope that just because you had a bad experience, doesn't mean you will never again seek God. He is only a prayer away. God bless you.

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Spirit Channeling at Wallkill's Bethel

by Marie33 in

look what an ex-bethelite has to say about the spirit channeling he saw first hand up at wallkill:.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfmqnzbyrko.

now i believe rayven's story of horror at brooklyn bethel:.

knowsnothing1

deegee,

What you are saying is that God will protect you from demonic attack, but he won't protect you from other life threatening, fatal situations? Why is God's protection so selective? This doesn't make any sense to me.

You still haven't arrived at a conclusion that he exists, so how can you question what doesn't exist?

But you can take Paul's example. God didn't prevent his suffering, not Christ's, nor many of the thousands upon thousands of Christians executed. They happily went to their deaths. Suffering != God's inexistence, so you're going to need a better argument.

(5) How, exactly, does an immaterial spirit interact with a brain and body of matter?
What force or causal influence does it exert, and by what mechanism?

I'm not sure. Just because I can't explain it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

I have not experienced many of the symptoms you have related. When I pray, I don't receive a vision or anything, just peace of mind and comfort. If I've sinned, my conscience draws me to repentance and to confess my sin to God.

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Pacifism is Morally Indefensible

by cofty in

i have been surprised recently to see so much support by ex-jws for the watchtower's refusal to fight and kill.

in my opinion it is a vice masquerading as a virtue.

of course war should always be a last resort but there are occasions that it has to be done.

knowsnothing1

War can never happen on the scale of WWII again. It would be the end of humanity as we know it. The rules have changed.

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Pacifism is Morally Indefensible

by cofty in

i have been surprised recently to see so much support by ex-jws for the watchtower's refusal to fight and kill.

in my opinion it is a vice masquerading as a virtue.

of course war should always be a last resort but there are occasions that it has to be done.

knowsnothing1

In defense of pacifism, remember that in a war, many civilian casualties occur. There are other ways to stop criminals that involve non lethal methods. Tasers, nets, mace, I mean the list is endless. I don't think anyone is advocating for criminals or terrorists to run over you.

When police in the US want to stop a high speed chase, they don't always shoot. They set up traps to blow tires, box criminals in, etc. Using force doesn't necessitate using deadly force.