Today, Sept. 14th, is the big day when JW's are supposed to be able to download the new songbook music from the jw.org website.
And their website seems to have crashed.
Too much traffic/demand for the new tunes? Or was it hacked?
today, sept. 14th, is the big day when jw's are supposed to be able to download the new songbook music from the jw.org website.. and their website seems to have crashed.. too much traffic/demand for the new tunes?
or was it hacked?.
i am not the oldest but have 3 years here!
restrangled.. how about you?.
I've been on here for 8 years, since the summer of 2001. I just don't post very often.
Before that, I was on H2O since the fall of 1996, posting as Brother Garfield. I didn't post there very often either.
Before that, there was the AJWR board "free-for-all" and the short-lived "Watchtower Unplugged" in 1995 and 1996. Anybody remember those?
me.. i'll tell you in a bit..
District Convention Talk perhaps?
i understand that the revelation "climax" book is being studied again.. if you are a jehovah's witness out here in the internet wilderness there is a unique opportunity to.
measure what you are learning in the "climax" book against truths that exist outside of the organization.. i invite you to take some time to do that.
there are three short video's which examine the entire book using.
No, I've decided to give up ALL brands of fundamentalist religion. Thanks, but no thanks.
i understand that the revelation "climax" book is being studied again.. if you are a jehovah's witness out here in the internet wilderness there is a unique opportunity to.
measure what you are learning in the "climax" book against truths that exist outside of the organization.. i invite you to take some time to do that.
there are three short video's which examine the entire book using.
Sorry, you're about 3 1/2 years late with this post. The Revelation book was studied for a record 4th time around 2006 or so. But this is 2009, and no plans have been publicized to study it again. There are several other books that will likely be studied before Revelation (if it ever gets pulled out of the closet again) - "Be My Follower" and the new "Bear Thorough Witness" are two that come to mind.
however you define the geographic midwest.
the only do of consequence i had was illingworth.
also f bartell.
Here's what I posted on another thread. These guys were all in the Midwest.
DO Sam Herd - Everybody seemed to enjoy his talks, of course that was 25 years ago.
DO Joseph Howard - About 20 years ago, he had a sister on the Ministry School at the Circuit Assembly in tears from the critical harsh 'counsel' he gave. Not well-liked in the district.
DO Joseph Wengert - Grandfatherly figure, seemed nice enough. Never met him personally.
DO Louis Beda - I think they had a cat. Don't remember much else about the guy.
DO Bob Hartman - It seemed like he was in Alaska for a time and talked about how cold is was (-30 degrees) and they STILL went out in service.
DO Steve Konjevich - Seemed nice enough, and I remember he always wanted his lunches at the Kingdom Hall. Made a big deal about people's ethnicity and nationalities.
DO Wallace Goff - Was a MTS instructor, and rarely showed up to circuit assemblies. Pretty personable guy, though.
CO Melvin Branam - Nice guy, always had time for people. Spent time with families and encouraged children. Liked to sit in the back of the Kingdom hall so he could talk to people. Probably my all-time favorite CO.
CO Robert Wickers - Seemed a little full of himself. Not the best speaker.
CO Michael Swanson - Seemed very intelligent. Didn't say much, but he was very perceptive.
CO Stanley Coberly - Former missionary who was sent home from Honduras after getting malaria. Single CO. Nice enough guy, but not much of a speaker. Not the most memorable CO.
CO Arnie Erickson - They were from Minnesota. Still had a motorhome years after the other CO's were forced to give theirs up. Older couple - I think his wife's name was Rusty or something like that.
CO Stephen Miller - Young couple who were very idealistic and zealous. They had a heart and really wanted to help people, as far as I could tell.
After that it gets kind of fuzzy.
after re evaluating whats happening at the kingdom halls, what would you rename them as ?.
i'll start the ball rolling - " delusional mind control centers " .
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Windowless Indoctrination Buildings with Poor Ventilation and Lighting
illinois circuit 6 or 7 and mo 5, 1, 2, 10?
(southern iliinois/se/ne missouri) especially.... snakes (.
ps i have ties to the area.... pm me if you dont want to post publicly.
Well, Marion was easily the largest cong in IL#7 for several years. They had what I considered the coolest KH I had ever seen. It was a semi-circle hall that really looked like a mini-assembly hall. I think the place was so big they had 4 or 5 mic handlers. Anyway, this cong had as many as 18 elders and nearly as many MS. They had a reputation for appointing really young guys as MS & elders (17-yr-old MS and 25-yr-old elders). They had many elders & MS quit. And when I mean quit, I don't mean fade. They just quit, right out of the blue. That cong loved to party. They had dances, parties, raves, whatever you want to call them, complete with flashing lights, smoke machine, everything.
They built a new hall back in 2001 I think. Not as much character as their old mini-assembly hall. Since this cong had several wealthy JW's, they went all out and spared no expense. I do know that Marion went off-task & refused to build to specs. They were supposedly reprimanded by Brooklyn & the RBC for their 'refusal to follow instruction'.
That cong never did split, though, even though they were huge for a while. Their meeting attendance was pretty awful & most of their membership seemed apathetic & a little aloof - pretty typical these days.
illinois circuit 6 or 7 and mo 5, 1, 2, 10?
(southern iliinois/se/ne missouri) especially.... snakes (.
ps i have ties to the area.... pm me if you dont want to post publicly.
In the early 90's, I think the Sonderman's were in Cairo. Cairo was one of those 'orphan' congs: Even though they were geographically in Southern Illinois, they were actually in MO#1, so they were isolated from the other So IL congregations.
I haven't heard about the closing of Carlyle, but it certainly wouldn't suprise me. For many years, they had only 2 elders, after a serious deflation. For a while in the early 90's, they filled their hall on Sundays and had 8 elders. Anybody here know Rick Wheeler from that hall?
I knew that Nashville had a hall that closed a LONG time ago, perhaps early 70's? And I knew they had some serious problems, but I never knew the details. I think that's where Irving Kelle was. He ended up in Carlyle until he passed away.
Oh, and the stories I could tell you about Marion, DuQuoin, and Benton! Enough for their own post, perhaps even their own thread!
Metropolis still exists, with more attendees than ever before. Val Sichling is still there and is the same as ever. Rumor is that Metropolis will be building a new hall within a year or two; their current hall is in the middle of the local meth-lab neighborhood.
And Wood River: Well, I never spent much time in that cong, but I was there when they built that hall back over Thanksgiving weekend 1987 - it rained like it had never rained before.....
More later....
i remember the old timers saying that the red babylon book was the hardest to understand.. in my memory, i'd have to say the isaiah books and daniel book were the most involved and boring.. the revelation book had gorgeous pictures in it (the writing was horribly boring), so i just looked at them, and i was 22 at the first study of it!.
I hated both Isaiah books - it was the same study week after week, literally, for well over two years.
Blah, Blah, Blah 1914 Blah Blah 1919 blah blah spiritual restoration blah blah free from the chains of Babylon blah blah 1919 blah blah 1919.
Isaiah books - even worse than the Revelation book!