Yeah, kind of like this one...
http://jwcyberhall.proboards23.com
They both seem ripe for the picking...
NotBlind
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CommonTruth JW Message Board
by sf inhttp://ctmessage.proboards82.com/
looks brand new.
have fun danny!.
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NotBlind
What disillusioned me most when I was a Witness was the fact that all those who made the 'rules', the GB members, the CO's, the DO's, the Bethel heavies, had absolutely NO idea what the average Witness had to deal with on a daily basis. We were told we had to read 3 or 4 magazines a month, daily text, Bible every day, in addition to service every week, plus giving up at least two evenings and one morning each day for the meetings. Oh, and don't forget preparing for all those meetings. Of course, the people telling us to do all that didn't have to worry about paying the bills, or much of anything else for that matter.
A few JW's have let me know that they are not happy with the recent crackdown on college/university. The blokes making the decisions in the org have absolutely no idea (or do not care) that going to college is a necessary fact of life for many, if not most students today.
I was constantly disillusioned by the constant complaining done by all the higher-ups in the org. Nothing is ever good enough. If we weren't going out in the field enough, we were criticized. If we weren't conducting enough studies, we were criticized. If we showed up late for the meeting, we were criticized. If we wanted to better ourselves and go get and education, we were REALLY criticized.
Most JW's I know today fall into two categories: 1) JW die-hards, and 2) floaters.
The die-hards will keep the org going for the next 100 years. Only rarely does one of the die-hards see the light about the org.
The floaters, on the other hand, really don't care anymore. Their bodies may still be in the org, but their hearts left long ago. The floaters have found that the only way to survive in this religion is to 'tune it all out'. They may still attend, go in the field service, and some of them may even be MS's and elders. But they don't really give a tinker's dam about the newest WT article or the offer for the month. They couldn't tell you what last year's assembly releases were. The floaters have nearly quit donating, too. Many of these floaters may never leave the org completely, due to family ties. But I see a greater percentage of JW's 'joining their ranks', to quote a phrase from the WT, over the next several years.
People are disillusioned with the constant carping of the WT, and they're learning to tune it out.
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Elders school
by blindersoff inanybody heard anything about the content of the current elder school?
the elders here went.
first one i have miissed for a long time.. i would just guess that it is built around the new organization book.. b
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NotBlind
Yep, that's pretty much it. There was a lot more, though, which I'll post later. I have a friend who's an elder in FL and is willing to share.
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Saturday Convention Talk (Return to the Shepherd)
by 95stormfront infrom the notes of "incognita".......... saturdays talk, return to the shepherd of your souls, was basically a 20 minute talk applied to those who've drifted or are drifting away; the basic jist was that we're all losers and that we'd better get reactivated and have a renewed vitality for the truth because without it, directly quoting "incognita", "our life is empty and meaningless and we'll have no joy".. inactive ones need the help of the elders because we're sinners and have lost our love for gee-hobah.
(so much for them not being able to read hearts.
) we have simply lost our zeal, and got carried away with the anxieties of life.
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NotBlind
Since when do the elders stop by with the newest convention releases? When I was going, the Bookroom Nazis made sure it was "one per attendee". IOW, no extra books for the inactive or fading. I'll keep that in mind if I stop by the bookroom for releases this year. I'll take 20 copies, please, for the inactive...
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2005 District convention???
by keeshah in.
anyone know the dates yet?
especially interested in kansas city or st. louis area.
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NotBlind
One Korean convention at the St. Louis assembly hall. I think they have 2 at the Family Arena in St. Charles, MO, though, usually in July. Don't know the exact dates, though.
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Less emphasis on 1914?
by richard ini'm not sure if this subject has been touched before but i noticed that since the turn of the millennium, the watchtower has paid less attention to "1914".
that is to say, when checking the frequency of the term '1914' in the watchtower from 1970-2003 through the wt-library 2003, there is a notable decrease after 1999. see the attached graph.
would that be a significant development or just statistical coincidence?
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NotBlind
<<<Really? How do you "firmly believe" a ficticious chronology?
<<<Kwin
Good question, Kwin...
You already answered it in your other post though...
<<<Because the R & F don't do any independant (sic) thinking
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Less emphasis on 1914?
by richard ini'm not sure if this subject has been touched before but i noticed that since the turn of the millennium, the watchtower has paid less attention to "1914".
that is to say, when checking the frequency of the term '1914' in the watchtower from 1970-2003 through the wt-library 2003, there is a notable decrease after 1999. see the attached graph.
would that be a significant development or just statistical coincidence?
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NotBlind
If I recall correctly, the year 1984 has way more occurrences than other years because they were 'celebrating' the 70th anniversary of 1914 with a four-part series on 1914.
Checking my most recent Watchtower coaster, 1914 was mentioned 108 times in just four WT issues during 1984 -- April 1, April 15, May 1, and May 15. This series sported titles such as "1914 a Marked Year", "1914 A Focal Point", "1914--It Changed Your Life", "What 1914 Could Mean for You", and "1914--The Generation that WILL NOT Pass Away." (what a joke, esp that last one)
Looking at their CD, it seems to me that mentions of 1914 dropped off in the WT mag around 1995 - which (surprise!) is the year they changed the meaning of a 'generation'. Oh they still talk about 1914, they just don't talk about the 1914 generation any more.
The WT is actually pushing 1914 more than ever. The newest video they put out, intended for teens and young adults, tells 'em to study 1914 and firmly believe it so they can teach it to their Bible studies. Of course that info never shows up in the statistics.
Unfortunately for them, they have so much of their belief system tied up in 1914 that they would require a complete doctrinal overhaul to drop it.
LOL at the idea that they actually believe teens have Bible studies.
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QUIET signs at assemblies
by Jez inlol...this one kills me.
again this year brothers had to walk the halls carrying signs that said "quiet please" everyone just ignores these poor embarrassed brothers.
the assemblay is going on and yet the halls are full of ppl walking, visiting, cruisin'.
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NotBlind
This year I saw the dumbest thing yet with regard to these QUIET PLEASE signs.
They had attendants carrying them around during the lunchtime intermission - a full 20 minutes before the music started. Do they really expect people to be quiet during lunchtime too now?
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Are there any teachers on this board?
by logansrun inso, i'm thinking about becoming a high school teacher.
i'm finishing up a summer course at my community college and will be going to northeaster illinois university in the fall.
i've been thinking about majoring in biology and secondary education (instead of history and secondary ed.).
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NotBlind
Yep, I'm a teacher. Lots of work for not a lot of pay. And I don't get the summers off either - teachers have to do graduate work on their own money and time. But if you enjoy teaching, it's not a bad way to go.
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Were You Ever Robbed At the Kingdom Hall?
by Funchback inokay, i don't mean by "donating" your hard earned money in the contribution boxes.
or, by having your purse or pocketbook taken.
or, by armed, masked men storming into the hall demanding everyone's money and jewelry.
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NotBlind
A few years, a guy (non-Witness) was caught in the KH parking lot siphoning gas out of cars. But I wasn't personally robbed.
So much for Jehovah protecting his "Witnesses"...