Usually she is well taken care of at Warwick (formerly Brooklyn) Bethel, until she dies or remarries. These women were married to men who probably knew where the proverbial skeletons are buried. Some of their widows may know a few of the secrets, too. They don't want these women speaking out.
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quick question: When a governing body member dies, what happens to their spouse?
by Deltawave inwhat happens to the wife after their gb husband dies..
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JW Rumor: End of the Traveling Overseer
by Edison Trent ina friend of mine has contacts to a family with several circuit overseers and special pioneers.
they have good connections to bethel.. he told me that the latest rumor from bethel states that the cos should be abolished in their present form.
they have also recently begun to take cos back to bethel.. over the same channel i have already heard of the car fleet program and that the dos should be abolished.. has anyone else already heard of it?
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Currently, the circuit overseers are a huge money drain on the org. Last year, they spent USD $213,000,000 paying expenses for missionaries, Bethelites, and circuit overseers. That’s the information right out of their own 2017 yearbook.
The way I’ve seen it, they’ve already cut back on Bethelites by 20 - 30%. They fired almost all the ‘special’ pioneers, which cut their expenses for missionaries substantially. And almost all new missionaries are already on the payroll, since the reorganization of Gilead in 2011.
Very few DO’s actually got fired when they eliminated the DO position; most were simply reassigned as CO’s or invited to Bethel. So these guys and their wives are still on the payroll.
The CO position is the only one of those three personnel expenses that they haven’t cut yet. And I’m sure the number crunchers at Warwick are looking for ways to cut CO’s, either by increasing the size of circuits or by eliminating them altogether.
Eliminating CO’s has been tossed about for decades. Supposedly Knorr wanted to get rid of them back in the 70s. About 8 yrs ago a similar rumor was widely circulated on this board. There’s no question the org would love to get rid of the expense of CO’s, while still reaping the benefits of their supervision and flock beatings. Every body of elders knows that the only reason some tasks ever get accomplished in the KH is because they know the CO will be coming around to inspect the books.
It would not be a shock to me if CO’s get the axe in the next decade, to be replaced by 2 or 3 overworked volunteer ‘circuit elders’ that would do all their work, but for free.
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Does anyone under the age of 25 know what KFC stands for? (What about WT or JW?)
by stuckinarut2 inas we have seen, the society has so smoothly rolled out the rebranding of the organization in just a few short years!.
(in fact, i remember a thread post here a few years back, where it was mentioned that all halls are going to get the jw.org signs on them.
it was initially laughed off and doubted) https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/279409/jw-org-signs-put-on-all-kingdom-halls-new-directive.
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Yes, the GB have removed all signs saying "Kingdom Hall of Jehovah's Witnesses" and "Watchtower" and watchtower logos from every location.
Not quite. Watchtower logos were never officially sanctioned by the home office to be placed on Kingdom Halls at all, and the few that were on KHs have supposedly been removed (except where it is structurally difficult to do so).
Every dedicated Kingdom Hall is expected to have its standard "Kingdom Hall of Jehovah's Witnesses" sign up, in addition to the website logo.
Speaking of KFC, if they started selling fried chicken out of the literature counter, KH attendance might actually go up!
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JWs Among the Least Educated in the US
by jp1692 inseptember 6th, 2017: a just released research survey shows once again that jehovah's witnesses are among the least educated people in the united states: .
america’s changing religious identity.
it is also interesting to note how jws rank in the categories of: income, insurance coverage and homeownership.
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To be honest, it surprises me that 9% of JWs have completed a college degree. I would have thought it to be much lower. I'd be curious to see how this breaks down for JWs in rural vs urban areas, as well as different regions of the US. In rural areas (and probably Spanish congregations too), the college degree attainment for JWs has got to be somewhere between 1% and 2% - just my guess though.
Of course, it's possible that some of the JW respondents assumed that reading an Asleep! magazine qualified as equal to a college degree, and that reading Asleep! for two consecutive issues was the equivalent of a Master's Degree.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Tight Pants Tony somehow incorporate these statistics into his Annual Meeting talk, saying they should be proud of being the least educated people in the world, while also touting themselves as the "thinkingest people in the world."
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Faces on TV Broadcasting
by TheFadingAlbatros ini agree that being photogenic is not given to every ordinary mortal.
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but when at the beginning of every new month i am confronted with the various faces of those males showing off as a priority on tv-jw (see jw broadcating september 2017), i am asking myself if i honestly am faced with normal people, or with people who went mental already since ages ago.. is it maybe due to the fact that the majority of them already do not feel anymore like belonging to ordinary mortals ?
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This is what happens when the only qualifications to do anything in the Tower Slave International organization are "spiritual qualifications." Common sense would dictate that being an effective communicator, moderately intelligent, talented, and even a bit photogenic would be requirements for being on JW-TV, but NO! The only qualification is "spiritually qualified", which guarantees that the only people who will be anchors on this show will be their seven perfect popes, and their closest lackeys.
It's this kind of blindness to real-world qualifications which leads to so much incompetence at Bethel and in the congregations.
The certified accountant won't normally be handling the accounts in the congregation; it will be some pioneer/MS who graduated from homeschool and majored in window washing who can't add 8 + 7 without a calculator. Then they act surprised when money is misplaced and the books are screwed up.
The few JW's with professional broadcasting talent won't be used for JW-TV, they'll pick the GB member who looks like Marshall Applewhite. Then they act surprised when people laugh and wonder what the heII is going on in Bethel.
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August 31, 2017 BOE Re: Procedure for Handling Certain Cases of Wrongdoing
by wifibandit inaugust 31, 2017 to all bodies of elders re: procedure for handling certain cases of wrongdoing.
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Very interesting that wrongdoing involving Circuit Overseers is conspicuously absent from that list!
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Gerrit Losch Claims JW's Attending College Are Spiritually Weak
by pale.emperor inhttps://www.facebook.com/jw.0027/videos/799049613609936/.
the video was posted directly to a pro-jw facebook page.
i cant believe what i'm hearing... actually, nothing surprises be about this cult anymore.. didn't they say to the judge in the arc that they dont discourage college?.
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Although this is an old video, I'm glad this was posted again, now as college classes are about to start, to remind JW's and their ilk how controlling -- and hypocritical -- the Tower Slave International organization is on this issue.
Out of one side of their mouth, they restrict their members from having any ambition in life, banishing their members to a life of low-skill wage slavery. But out of the other side of their mouth, they send out letters to congregations inviting members with professional degrees to join the elite at Bethel.
They don't want their slaves doing anything that might make them more desirable members of society -- unless it somehow benefits the org.
This organization relegates their slaves to a life of poverty, while ordering the donations to keep rolling in, begging for money on their slick TV show while wearing gold watches.
Jesus had people like them in mind when he said at Matthew 23:4: "They bind up heavy loads and put them on the shoulders of men, but they themselves are not willing to budge them with their finger."
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Juarez MX Assembly Kingdom Hall to be sold.
by ironsnake656 inthere are several confirmed announcements in some congregations around the city regarding the sale of the assembly kingdom hall.
one of the reasons why it will be sold is that expenses are not covered by donations.
the hall was dedicated in 2009. actually, in some congregations the elders have not given the announcement for the publisher's reaction... .
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Not sure I follow.
Won't the branch just charge the 60 pesos a head plus a fee for the rental of the "worldly" facility?No, unless they change their policy (which isn't out of the question). Currently, circuits that rent outside facilities for circuit assemblies pay the rental cost directly to the management. Usually a lot cheaper than an assembly hall.
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Juarez MX Assembly Kingdom Hall to be sold.
by ironsnake656 inthere are several confirmed announcements in some congregations around the city regarding the sale of the assembly kingdom hall.
one of the reasons why it will be sold is that expenses are not covered by donations.
the hall was dedicated in 2009. actually, in some congregations the elders have not given the announcement for the publisher's reaction... .
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That assembly hall is used only by the Mexico (now officially called Central America) Branch. JW's from the USA don't go there. There's a similar situation in the Rio Grande Valley, with 2 assembly halls almost literally across the border from each other (La Feria TX / Reynosa MX).
Assembly halls are big money makers for the WTS in Mexico. The current assembly hall rental fee (required 'donation') to use these paid-for facilities is 60 pesos per publisher, which is the equivalent of about USD$3.50. However, many Mexican families, especially among JW's, are poorer than their US counterparts.
When many JW families in Mexico are taking home about 150 pesos a day, a family with 3 kids as publishers are expected to pay up 300 pesos.
And for many assembly halls in Mexico, these are NOT suggested donations. Some circuits charge each congregation for their required donation, and in turn the elders charge each family for their part. I know of some congregations where the elders will go to your house and expect you to cough up your required donation before each assembly.
If you think the WTS grubs for money in the US, it's even worse in Mexico. Evidently, they weren't getting their expected profits in Juarez, so they'll just sell the building and pocket the profits.
In the end, this will be a better deal for the Juarez JW's. It will be a lot cheaper to pay a 'worldly' company to rent a building than to rent an assembly hall from the JW Corporation.
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The Latest Trend in NW England: Homeschooling Your Children
by pale.emperor ini dont know if this is becoming a national thing or even globally.
but im hearing more and more people i knew from my jw days have taken their kids out of school to home school them instead.
in my sisters case she's taken her 8yo and 6yo children out already and her 3yo wont ever start a school.
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In the USA, this has been going on for decades in the congs. The parents do it under the guise of shielding their innocent children from the 'wicked system'. Of course, these parents usually enroll their children in some cheap Witness internet homeschool like "Pear Blossom". After graduating from this joke of a school, these adolescents are equipped for wonderful careers such as regular pioneering, burger flipping, and window washing. Some graduates are even accepted to prestigious universities such as Pioneer Service School.
I know firsthand of parents who are high school dropouts themselves that decide to homeschool their children. They leave their adolescent son/daughter home alone to "do their schoolwork" online while both parents leave to work all day. Their 'innocent' JW child spends all day playing videogames, watching porn, and playing with themselves; little schoolwork gets done.
The official line from the Tower Slave International home office is that homeschool is neither promoted nor discouraged; it is a family decision. However, the powers that be have given a wink and a nod to homeschooling. Not once has it been criticized in the publications (how many things can we say that about?) The leaders of this organization know that homeschool (at least the way it's done by JW's) keeps JW kids that much more enslaved, dependent on the org, and less likely to think for themselves. Besides, the more educational & financial options that young people have, the less likely they are to stay in the religion.
Ironically, many homeschooled kids in my area turn 18, get a low-paying fast-food-type job, quickly find a 'worldly' boyfriend or girlfriend, and then fade or are DF'ed, never to set foot in a Kingdom Hell ever again.