Posts by NotBlind

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November 13, 2017 TO ALL BOE IN THE US Re: Making the Best Use of Our Kingdom Halls

by wifibandit in

november 13, 2017 to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territory re: making the best use of our kingdom halls.

NotBlind

The natives are getting restless. More and more well-established congregations are being dissolved. KH’s that were built with LOCAL donations and sweat are being sold off, with the cash sent to Warwick. Especially those JWs in small rural towns — they don’t have much — but they supported their local KH and took a certain amount of pride in their hometown hall.

And now, a bunch of pencil pushers and bean counters have decided it would be cheaper to send them 20 miles down the highway to a cong in a town they hardly know (and frankly, don’t care for). They won’t make the same mistake twice; although they may still be true believers, they’re voting with their wallets.

What the pencil pushers and bean counters don’t understand is that even these true believers have a limit. They’ll miss more meetings when the weather’s bad (or when the price of gas goes up) and they won’t care, because the WTS doesn’t care about them.

They outwardly cooperate, smile and say “What a blessing” when the elders are around. But when they get home and the lights are out, they can’t stand the idea of being sent farther away and inconvenienced so that the corporation can save a few bucks.

This video is just another round of damage control, trying to convince the schlubs who pay the bills that it’s raining, when they’re just being pissed on — again.

It will not work.

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Another reason Watchtower may be hurting financially

by shepherdless in

i don't think anyone else has raised this point.

below i set out the case that the jw demographic in usa has a steadily decreasing combined income, and as a consequence, has less money to donate.

not only is the flock not growing, the flock is producing less wool for the borg to fleece.

NotBlind

From my experience, about half of the contributions in the KH box came from just a handful of families (maybe 3), and they’d usually write a consistent check every month. The people that did this were always well-established families, and they’re getting older and dying off.

About half of the families would give the other half of the contributions, usually in cash. (Since it was cash, it was a little harder to know, but you could tell who walked by the contribution box and slipped something in.) These families were not as stable, as far as I could tell.

My estimate is that about half of the publishers never gave anything. Many of them were along for the social experience, some were mentally ill, in hindsight some were probably awake. This last group will be increasing. Their donators are literally dying off.

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Was It Really Mental Illness or Was It The Demons?

by minimus in

jw
friends

we supposedly had more than a few “demonized” people in our congregation.

they would hear voices or feel internal punishment within their souls.

the answer was always—-these people were affected by the demons and they needed counseling!.

NotBlind

Yeah, I remember those people too. There were always individuals in the congregation that were having problems with the demons, either because of something they bought at a yard sale or because of some other issue in their lives.

Not coincidentally, they were also - without exception - the most emotionally needy, disturbed, and uneducated in the congregation (and that’s saying a lot in the JW org).

They’re also the true believers.

When you think of how this organization treats its members, it becomes obvious why so many of them suffer from mental delusions. They’re taught that Satan is after them and personally sets mental traps to get them. They’re also told that the world is going to end any day now, and it never does. They’re told that no matter how much they’re doing for Jehovah, it’s never enough. They’re told not to better themselves, that they need to spend more time selling comic books for the corporation.

A recent WT magazine showed a man on his computer late at night, with a holographic Satan-the-Devil in lion form right next to him. These people are taught that the devil literally enters their home when they have a moment of weakness. That’s disturbing enough as it is, but for someone who has a mental illness, they’re a whole lot more likely to think they’re hearing SATAN the next time a window creaks in their old house.

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quick question: When a governing body member dies, what happens to their spouse?

by Deltawave in

what happens to the wife after their gb husband dies..

NotBlind

Not to mention, there's a double standard for GB, as opposed to the underling Bethelites. While underling Bethelites get kicked to the curb when their life circumstances change, GB and their wives really are considered better than everyone else.

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quick question: When a governing body member dies, what happens to their spouse?

by Deltawave in

what happens to the wife after their gb husband dies..

NotBlind

Usually she is well taken care of at Warwick (formerly Brooklyn) Bethel, until she dies or remarries. These women were married to men who probably knew where the proverbial skeletons are buried. Some of their widows may know a few of the secrets, too. They don't want these women speaking out.

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JW Rumor: End of the Traveling Overseer

by Edison Trent in

a friend of mine has contacts to a family with several circuit overseers and special pioneers.

they have good connections to bethel.. he told me that the latest rumor from bethel states that the cos should be abolished in their present form.

they have also recently begun to take cos back to bethel.. over the same channel i have already heard of the car fleet program and that the dos should be abolished.. has anyone else already heard of it?

NotBlind

Currently, the circuit overseers are a huge money drain on the org. Last year, they spent USD $213,000,000 paying expenses for missionaries, Bethelites, and circuit overseers. That’s the information right out of their own 2017 yearbook.

The way I’ve seen it, they’ve already cut back on Bethelites by 20 - 30%. They fired almost all the ‘special’ pioneers, which cut their expenses for missionaries substantially. And almost all new missionaries are already on the payroll, since the reorganization of Gilead in 2011.

Very few DO’s actually got fired when they eliminated the DO position; most were simply reassigned as CO’s or invited to Bethel. So these guys and their wives are still on the payroll.

The CO position is the only one of those three personnel expenses that they haven’t cut yet. And I’m sure the number crunchers at Warwick are looking for ways to cut CO’s, either by increasing the size of circuits or by eliminating them altogether.

Eliminating CO’s has been tossed about for decades. Supposedly Knorr wanted to get rid of them back in the 70s. About 8 yrs ago a similar rumor was widely circulated on this board. There’s no question the org would love to get rid of the expense of CO’s, while still reaping the benefits of their supervision and flock beatings. Every body of elders knows that the only reason some tasks ever get accomplished in the KH is because they know the CO will be coming around to inspect the books.

It would not be a shock to me if CO’s get the axe in the next decade, to be replaced by 2 or 3 overworked volunteer ‘circuit elders’ that would do all their work, but for free.

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Does anyone under the age of 25 know what KFC stands for? (What about WT or JW?)

by stuckinarut2 in

as we have seen, the society has so smoothly rolled out the rebranding of the organization in just a few short years!.

(in fact, i remember a thread post here a few years back, where it was mentioned that all halls are going to get the jw.org signs on them.

it was initially laughed off and doubted) https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/279409/jw-org-signs-put-on-all-kingdom-halls-new-directive.

NotBlind

Yes, the GB have removed all signs saying "Kingdom Hall of Jehovah's Witnesses" and "Watchtower" and watchtower logos from every location.

Not quite. Watchtower logos were never officially sanctioned by the home office to be placed on Kingdom Halls at all, and the few that were on KHs have supposedly been removed (except where it is structurally difficult to do so).

Every dedicated Kingdom Hall is expected to have its standard "Kingdom Hall of Jehovah's Witnesses" sign up, in addition to the website logo.

Speaking of KFC, if they started selling fried chicken out of the literature counter, KH attendance might actually go up!

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JWs Among the Least Educated in the US

by jp1692 in

september 6th, 2017: a just released research survey shows once again that jehovah's witnesses are among the least educated people in the united states: .

america’s changing religious identity.

it is also interesting to note how jws rank in the categories of: income, insurance coverage and homeownership.

NotBlind

To be honest, it surprises me that 9% of JWs have completed a college degree. I would have thought it to be much lower. I'd be curious to see how this breaks down for JWs in rural vs urban areas, as well as different regions of the US. In rural areas (and probably Spanish congregations too), the college degree attainment for JWs has got to be somewhere between 1% and 2% - just my guess though.

Of course, it's possible that some of the JW respondents assumed that reading an Asleep! magazine qualified as equal to a college degree, and that reading Asleep! for two consecutive issues was the equivalent of a Master's Degree.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Tight Pants Tony somehow incorporate these statistics into his Annual Meeting talk, saying they should be proud of being the least educated people in the world, while also touting themselves as the "thinkingest people in the world."

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Faces on TV Broadcasting

by TheFadingAlbatros in

i agree that being photogenic is not given to every ordinary mortal.

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but when at the beginning of every new month i am confronted with the various faces of those males showing off as a priority on tv-jw (see jw broadcating september 2017), i am asking myself if i honestly am faced with normal people, or with people who went mental already since ages ago.. is it maybe due to the fact that the majority of them already do not feel anymore like belonging to ordinary mortals ?

NotBlind

This is what happens when the only qualifications to do anything in the Tower Slave International organization are "spiritual qualifications." Common sense would dictate that being an effective communicator, moderately intelligent, talented, and even a bit photogenic would be requirements for being on JW-TV, but NO! The only qualification is "spiritually qualified", which guarantees that the only people who will be anchors on this show will be their seven perfect popes, and their closest lackeys.

It's this kind of blindness to real-world qualifications which leads to so much incompetence at Bethel and in the congregations.

The certified accountant won't normally be handling the accounts in the congregation; it will be some pioneer/MS who graduated from homeschool and majored in window washing who can't add 8 + 7 without a calculator. Then they act surprised when money is misplaced and the books are screwed up.

The few JW's with professional broadcasting talent won't be used for JW-TV, they'll pick the GB member who looks like Marshall Applewhite. Then they act surprised when people laugh and wonder what the heII is going on in Bethel.

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August 31, 2017 BOE Re: Procedure for Handling Certain Cases of Wrongdoing

by wifibandit in

august 31, 2017 to all bodies of elders re: procedure for handling certain cases of wrongdoing.

NotBlind

Very interesting that wrongdoing involving Circuit Overseers is conspicuously absent from that list!