Posts by WireRider

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Living as Christians at the C.L.A.M this week

by Truthexplorer in

this weeks meeting under the section - living as 'christians', starts off with 'repentance makes a difference', which is a talk given by an elder taken from w06 11/15 27-28 par 7-9. in a nut shell it discusses those who have been disfellowshipped and then show repentance.

it then goes on to discuss reinstatement and how a certain amount of time must pass by before this can take place.

it makes the following point in the paragraph.. 'a disfellowshipped person is not automatically accepted back into the congregation after a certain amount of time has passed.

WireRider

I am so confused. The Watchtower is NOT Christian. They think Jesus is just some angel. So how do they get to leap to Christian? They are at best Jewish. Make up their mind. Trinity/Christian - or GOD/Jewish. Pick one. Arius (Watchtower followers) was kicked out of the New Testament.

When and where did the Watchtower speak to GOD and were certified to speak for GOD? conform to Gods righteous requirements What? When? Where? What gives the Watchtower any right to be in judgement of anyone?

The very definition of Jesus --> Christ is an acknowledgement of the divinity of Christ. Sooo the Watchtower, like Arius, who was completely kicked out of the New Testament, should be forbidden from using Christ or Christian. To "act" like Jesus - they should call themselves "Jesus-ians". It makes no sense. "We are Christians - but we don't believe in Christ".

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Who really is assigned the Congregation Charity Tax return in the congregation?

by Quarterback in

i have this poor friend that has so much to do.as an account servant.

i recently noticed that he got additional work loaded on his back by the secretary who told him that it was his responsibility to fill this register charity form return.. i remember from long ago that this was a job that the secretary had to do, but can't find it in writing.

does anyone have anything in writting on it?.

WireRider

Huh. The mother ship sucks up all the money and everyone else has to file paperwork. Wouldn't you think with a hierarchical structure where they claim to own ALL property and run ALL meetings that they would handle the accounting paperwork? Are all KW independently certified as tax exempt? And maintain the filings?

I think there is something very suspicious with having every KH file their own tax paperwork about "charity" or "tax exempt" when the money get's sent to the Watchtower with absolutely no accountability. That makes every KH, tax volunteer, a complete lair if they claim charitable status. Violation of law. Every "Kingdom Hall" is in violation of tax fraud and tax evasion.

How do they claim "We sent $50,000 to the Watchtower without any idea of what it's used for"? How does that qualify anywhere as tax exempt?

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hee hee

by brandnew in

jw
friends

governing body members are usually people who have never held down, a real god honest job.

never payed taxes like most of us, and probably have never cooked their own meals.. im sorry.....im venting, but it burns my hyde....that they kicked so many old timers to the curb.....as they go live in luxury, in their lake-front condos in warwick.

its sick!!!.

WireRider

When does the part about claims of "we are Christian because we act like Christ" come in?

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hee hee

by brandnew in

jw
friends

governing body members are usually people who have never held down, a real god honest job.

never payed taxes like most of us, and probably have never cooked their own meals.. im sorry.....im venting, but it burns my hyde....that they kicked so many old timers to the curb.....as they go live in luxury, in their lake-front condos in warwick.

its sick!!!.

WireRider

That is a heck of a thing to say for all the money they have collected from unsuspecting hordes they have lied to and scared the shit out of with completely knowingly false prophecies of death and destruction and given so generously to the communities that they live in tax free (schools/fire/police/ambulance) and give so generously to their communities and the needy.

Oh wait ...

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How will the Watchtower Cult end?

by WireRider in

some announcement of sorts?.

there are all kinds of conspiracy theories.

their head count and time cards are all faked by the gb, and "congregations".

WireRider

Bogles the mind. 1/3 are "IN". 2/3 want "OUT" but can't find a way. What kind of religion is that for fear of punishment? All the while the WT brags about 200% are strong members.

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How will the Watchtower Cult end?

by WireRider in

some announcement of sorts?.

there are all kinds of conspiracy theories.

their head count and time cards are all faked by the gb, and "congregations".

WireRider

How will the Watchtower Cult end? Some announcement of sorts?

There are all kinds of conspiracy theories. Their head count and time cards are all faked by the GB, and "congregations". All the hoopla of finding tax filings and stock holdings are completely fake. They publish all those things because that's what they want you to think. It's all fake. The WT is a multi-million dollar (maybe) organization with plenty of money, and stupid volunteers to manage marketing, accounting, and any reports they want you to hear. It's a tax free org. Who's going to complain over any BS filings? The IRS? Don't think so.

They are very aware of boards like this, and I'm sure they closely watch the effects of "leaked" information. It's what they do. Propaganda. Control it. Manage it.

Would they be honest and wind it down? Beg for more money? Sell their headquarters? Or just close the doors? For sale signs suddenly everywhere and no one answering the phone? How does it end?

Loosing the contained/controlled cult and publishing company is their end. People can see there is real truth in the real world. They have lost their Nazi control of lies, control, and punishments. Everyone is free.

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Why the Governing Body caught a frightful fright

by Saintbertholdt in

it has been extensively reported on the forum that there has been a marked increase in effort over the past two years by the governing body of jehovah's witnesses to encourage an increase in monetary donations.

this has also been accompanied by the stripping of financial capital from the local congregations.

as has also been reported on this forum, this has in all probability been done to facilitate the financing of the vast new hq building project as well as the financing of the shift from a publishing company to becoming an internet based charismatic multimedia company which produces lame pixar/disney animation knock offs while simultaneously parading the governing body's ever expanding waistlines, blingy accoutrements and stupid grins.. meanwhile the financials of the organization remains as murky as ever.

WireRider

What in the world makes anyone believe the Watchtower reports real numbers about anything? The propaganda department is well staffed with (free) business, marketing, and accountant people.

The "numbers" all have to look good to maintain any kind of legitimacy. I will be anyone that their total attendance count, number of "time cards", income, and total value isn't anywhere close to the truth. It is a lie to the "congregations" to keep it going, and why would they ever tell a government they don't have any respect for the truth?

I doesn't it really matters what forms people find. They know you will find them. They plant information. I would. I would use you.

They count on the rebellion to spread these lies.

Yes - they have volunteers to read all this stuff and report back to the GB on the social media trends of their fake media - and yes that means their fraudulent filings. Who would ever go after them? The IRS? They are all fake filings for propaganda of sustainability and growth. It's fake.

There is no link. There is no information that they do not want you to see. This is a multi-million dollar corporation that strictly controls WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO BELIEVE.

They could truly be penniless for all anyone knows. All a charade to keep people believing they are real and keep giving money. How else would you end the WATCHTOWER? Faking it until the very end to get money?

What if they did end? How would it go? Millions in they back or just stop answering the phones?

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Why the Governing Body caught a frightful fright

by Saintbertholdt in

it has been extensively reported on the forum that there has been a marked increase in effort over the past two years by the governing body of jehovah's witnesses to encourage an increase in monetary donations.

this has also been accompanied by the stripping of financial capital from the local congregations.

as has also been reported on this forum, this has in all probability been done to facilitate the financing of the vast new hq building project as well as the financing of the shift from a publishing company to becoming an internet based charismatic multimedia company which produces lame pixar/disney animation knock offs while simultaneously parading the governing body's ever expanding waistlines, blingy accoutrements and stupid grins.. meanwhile the financials of the organization remains as murky as ever.

WireRider

What if? What if the GB fakes the money? A tax exempt org. What's the downside?

If for purely manipulative reasons they fake their financial filings and total value just as much as they fake their cult head count. Propaganda control. The Watchtower does not file anything accidentally.

It's how/why they control.

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Your Opinion Pleeease

by thankyou in

jw girl non-jw guy.

tenuous boyfriend-girlfriend relationship.

what is more likely to strengthen a relationship?.

WireRider

DJS,

You remarkably have the worst insecurity complex I have seen in a long time. Your'e narcissism is dwarfed only by your overwhelming feelings of inadequacy and insecurity.

I hate to break it to you - you don't bother me. You are just an asshole.

I check in once or twice a week. I take a minute once in a while to comment. Your insistence on expanding definitions of physiology, that you don't understand, clearly shows your compulsion here. Good luck with that.

I'm guessing you are about 14 based on your sentence structure, miss-spellings, punctuation, and grammatical errors.

(WTF??? I mean really. What. Tha. Fuck:

And greedy. Save some warm girl bodies for the rest of us thank you thankyou

I'm going with a 13 yr old with a cell phone from his parents.

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If JWs were to change their name what would they change it to?

by slimboyfat in

was it 1931 when they adopted jehovah's witnesses?

(at the time with lower case w) isn't it about time now they changed name again?

i mean everything else is changing why not the name!

WireRider

First and fore most A) the Bible students left - when Rutherford took over forcefully (he was never Russell's chosen heir) half of the "Bible Student's" just left (I wish that could happen again). It was a re-branding of the name to try and save face. B) It has always been a tax dodge - the Watchtower books profits and plays with the non-profit, tax exempt, laws in many countries under the name of a "religious" filing of JW.

There is the "Jehovah" name that no one believes is even real. Every on knows "Jehovah" was an admitted WRONG translation of YAHWEH. Seriously? How do you get from YAHWEH to "Jehovah", So who are they praying to? How do they know. I think the fictitious name was on purpose. What "God" are they actually praying to? The derivation (in translation) of JEHOVAH is JEH, or god reference, and "HOVAH" refers to liar, and "one that cannot be trusted." Who/what exactly are they praying to?

The WT has only been around about a 100 years. Most of which has been propaganda, branding, and avoidance of tax laws. They need the JW as a tax shelter.

Although in less than 100 years they have really f$%&#@ck up the brand name. NO ONE wants them showing up at their door - they are a laughing stock in all forms of media/comedy. I guess there are those that believe when are laughing with them, they think they have "made it" - they are not laughing with you - they are laughing at you.

But it would make typical sense for them to re-brand and get 100 years of laughter (at them) off their back for a while - and certainly not to be associated/connected to that JW pedophile cult group.