WireRider

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  My beautiful 7th grade daughter just finished her Christmas Concert tonight.

  by PaintedToeNail in

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  my lovely daughter played in her orchestra's concert tonight, in spite of her father who tried to make her feel guilty about it.

  he went to the kh tonight, while my youngest child and i went to listen to joyous music played by the local kids at our town's school.

  my girl was front and center and she did a great job.

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  WireRider

  Good for you. Truly. I find it interesting that God must know about unapproved activities - but somehow requires times sheets for reporting activity.
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  Why do people just give their money to the Watchtower?

  by WireRider in

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  2. scandals

  what do they contribute to humanity?

  what do they contribute to any part of society?.

  why are people paying for a scam?.

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  WireRider

  Why?

  What do they do it?

  What do they contribute to humanity? What do they contribute to any part of society?

  Why are people paying for a scam?

  For a 150 years people just give their money to the Watchtower. Why?

  Who are these stupid stupid people that just give their money to the Watchtower that brainwashes and enslaves people?
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  Elders now ORDERED by the Org to fleece the sheep

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the org is now demanding money from the witnesses, via the latest letter sent to elders regarding the circuit's excess funds.

  succeeded in getting elders everywhere to hand over their own congregation's "excess funds" - now their circuit's bank balances are going to be plundered.. the spineless and subservient elders will cooperate without a whimper, because they're afraid of losing their little bit of power which the org has bestowed upon them.

  (john 11:48).

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  WireRider

  I never ever want to read "Watchtower" and "donations" in the same sentence EVER again. What do they do to help anyone? What do people just give them money?

  What is the purpose of the "Watchtower"?

  Why do so many stupid people just give them their money, their effort, their volunteered labor?

  Why?
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  Can everyone agree on an anti-Watchtower definition?

  by WireRider in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i would like to see a unified effort from those that have defected.

  certainly there are exceptional, very legitimate, detailed experiences from a few.

  what about the regulars that chose to leave?

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  WireRider

  I would like to see a unified effort from those that have defected. Certainly there are exceptional, very legitimate, detailed experiences from a few. What about the regulars that chose to leave? I would like to publish it with your input paring it down to a paragraph or two.

  I personally do not see the Watchtower as a Religion. It is a niche product that the Watchtower used to sell printing material and build an empire. Cult subservients, that are required to go door-to-door, enslave others are comically referred to as a rank of "publishers", who are required to file time sheets (NO religions do that) to the Watchtower to somehow prove themselves to human slaves. As I recall, Israel fled those conditions. It has been filled with lying, cheating, and deliberately and knowingly false statements and publications. The foundation is a firm believer in Arias that was kicked of the Bible counsel in 320AD. Charles Russell is a former Millerite/Adventist that carried forward very false dire death/destruction beliefs that have failed a dozen times. His claim of the end of the world was based upon pagan measurements of a pyramid.

  Based upon all the experience here I would like to come up with a statement - instead of just griping about it. Perhaps an objective "definition" of the Watchtower, and a well formed letter of beliefs and concepts that can be very openly sent to EVERYONE.
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  Noah's Ark

  by Darkknight757 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i'm reading the book "the atheist book of bible stories" and something just occurred to me.. noahs ark rested on the top of mount ararat.

  how the hell did all the land animals, dinosaurs and other monsters get to ground level?

  did noah and his family just push them off the mountain and hope for the best?

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  WireRider

  I know of two alternatives:

  The Sumerian tablets had exactly the same story recorded a few thousand years earlier. It could have been passed down and re-written for the Bible. I think there are at least 5 stories of the same tale from different cultures.

  Historian point out that the area was prone to floods. Noah would have actually gather 2 of each of his heard on a small boat to just keep his livestock alive. Floated just a few miles. It was his occupation - like any homeowner would do to protect his lively hood. Stories from mouth-to-mouth change after 100's of years.
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  Very Sad ... Another Terrorist Attack here in the USA ... and not enough guns to defend us

  by RubaDub in

  1. social
  2. current

  if only there were more people with guns perhaps some lives would have been saved.. it's a sad state of affairs here in the us when enough people aren't armed when there is an attack.. if someone simply had a gun or was wearing a suicide vest to take the perpetrators out, other lives could have been saved.. rub a dub .

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  What is better? Terrorists killing because of religion who are 150% army-ish and a country that is 10-30% army-ish, or terrorists that are 150% army-ish and a country that is 0% army-ish?

  Part of the think is mutual assured destruction. A group of terrorist running into a Christmas party where 10% may be carrying guns - may think twice about starting to shoot. Of course there is the suicide part, but may only a few would have been killed before the terrorist were killed.

  It is a practical measure. Give the option, I would rather be standing next to the guy that was armed.
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  What would happen if you started calling jw's "sheep" rather than brother or sister?

  by purrpurr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  following on from the excellent thread started by open mind.... rather than calling the cult members brother smith etc what about calling them "sheep smith".

  sheep jones?.

  sheep morris the third?.

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  WireRider

  Lemmings. The word is Lemmings.
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  Anyone here from the San Diego or Las Vegas area - personal request

  by WireRider in

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  2. friends

  i would like to send a message to someone the watchtower has blocked for over a year.

  send me a personal message.. i am not sure where she is now.

  i just want to say i care and i'm still here and the offer still stands - no matter what the watchtower says..

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  WireRider

  I would like to send a message to someone the Watchtower has blocked for over a year. Send me a personal message.

  I am not sure where she is now. I just want to say I care and I'm still here and the offer still stands - no matter what the Watchtower says.
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  Is ANYONE in charge a real ordained minister? College degrees? Seminary? A real Theological degree?

  by WireRider in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  and i don't mean that stupid made up shit russell just invented only a 100 yrs ago.

  he never passed the 7th grade and declared that the world was too stupid to understand the bible without him.. who do you follow and pore money into the watchtower?.

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  rebel8 - I agree. I think ministers should UNDERSTAND the book they are teaching others. I don't think just plagiarism of Arius works in any way. The Bible is what it is - human understanding of a certain point in time. I respect it as a guideline - but I never respect it as a rule book.

  Theology is probably closer in nature to philosophy than pure Bible study.
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  Is ANYONE in charge a real ordained minister? College degrees? Seminary? A real Theological degree?

  by WireRider in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  and i don't mean that stupid made up shit russell just invented only a 100 yrs ago.

  he never passed the 7th grade and declared that the world was too stupid to understand the bible without him.. who do you follow and pore money into the watchtower?.

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  WireRider

  In what world did Russell have any business to publish such crap as the made up "Studies in the Scriptures"?? He was so wrong. He plagiarized the works of Arius that was kicked out of Christianity in 320 AD. Russell was a fraud. Russell was never ordained by any Church. The entire Watchtower is a fraud. NO ONE in the Watchtower has ever been an ordained minister - they would spontaneous combust. They can't even set foot in a Church. The Watchtower sold their soles a long time ago to create the cult.