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What Irony! Another Hall Closure!

by freddo in

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note these excerpts from awake!

articles: (bold italics mine).

*** g93 9/8 pp.

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Great find. Here's a link to the listing http://www.barbararees.com/property_detail1.php?id=875

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Reaching the most distant parts - Geoffrey Jackson praising Bible translators and missionaries as "faithful ones" or even "anointed ones"

by TheWonderofYou in

after we heard some time ago that before the time of russel there was no "faitful slave" or no anointed ones who formed a faitful slave class, now we learn that we dont know if before russel there were not "faitful ones" or "anointed".

indeed jackson says that we know the bible teaches that throughout the history there would be a large number of "sons of the kingdom" ..or anointed ones.. beginning from this month in several projects including a film about christian bible translators who gave an example of "faithfulness" and "discretness" in translating the bible, the christian bibletranslators and missionionaries who used "jehovah" by the way are receiving ultimate praise of the governing body, in the first place at the moment is shown the video about tyndale, wo so is very much supposedly a "faithful one" and perhaps even "anointed" because he loved the bible.. jackson says that those early missionaries of the christendom already "preached the message" before russell.

january broadcast.

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Tynedale.... the Original Apostate...

Criticisms of the Church (from The Obedience of a Christian Man)

“Make themselves holier than the lay people and take so great lands and goods” (112). In his third argument, Tyndale lists the abuses of the common people by the church. Tyndale accuses the church of being more concerned with performing ceremonies than living by the laws set by Christ in scripture. In terms of sacraments, like other Protestant reformers, Tyndale believes that baptism and the Eucharist are the only true sacraments, as both were performed by Christ in the New Testament (227). Tyndale feels that the church should preach rather than perform superstitious ceremonies, like confession: “Moreover if any man have sinned yet if he repent and believe the promise, we are sure by God’s word that he is loosed and forgiven in Christ” (124). In other words, acknowledge your sins to God. Priests should only preach and provide counseling, as they are not a mediator between the people and God. The clergy are only representatives of Christ, not Christ Himself. Tyndale, like Luther, believes that every Christian has a direct relationship with God; that a Christian’s own salvation is within him. Only prayer can bring true faith. “Paul in every epistle warneth us that we put no trust in works, and to beware of persuasions or arguments of man’s wisdom, of superstitiousness, of ceremonies of popeholiness and of all manner disguising. And exhorteth us to cleave fast onto the naked and pure word of God” (131). Tyndale also condemns the church for creating and enforcing ecclesiastical law rather than teaching God’s law, as it is written in scripture. As a result of ecclesiastical law, the church separates itself from the people it is supposed to serve. According to Tyndale, the New Testament, not church doctrine, contains all the laws by which a good Christian should abide. “[O]ne king, one law, is God’s ordinance in every realm” (96). Tyndale states that, ironically, the church forbids that which Jesus promoted and promotes that which Jesus forbade. Unfortunately, Tyndale does not provide any specific examples to support this claim (however obvious it may appear), and this lack of evidence weakens the potential strength of his argument, even if we consider the historical context in which this argument was originally made. “They preach it were better for thee to eat flesh on Good Friday than to hate thy neighbor: but let any man eat flesh but on a Sunday or break any other tradition of theirs, and he shall be bound and not loosed, till he have paid the utmost farthing, other with shame most vile or death most cruel, but hate thy neighbor as much as thou wilt and thou shalt have no rebuke of them, yea rob him, murder him, and then come to them and welcome” (99). Tyndale denies the authority and infallibility of the Pope (and, indirectly, attacks the church hierarchy, too): according to Tyndale’s interpretation of scripture, the foundation of the church is the apostle Peter’s faith, not himself. Peter’s successor has no authority other than to preach the gospel: “Our hypocrites boast themselves of the authority of Peter and of Paul and the other Apostles, clean contrary unto the deeds and doctrine of Peter, Paul and of all the other Apostles” (104). As Christians, Tyndale says, all are equal in the eyes of God, including the clergy. The clergy may have a special calling as preachers, but they are not superior to any other Christian: “So it was in the manner to call Peter chief of the Apostles for his singular activity and boldness, and not that he should be lord over his brethren contrary to his own doctrine” (76).

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Watchtower and Theseus' Paradox

by jwabuse.com in

came across this today researching something for work, and thought it was an interesting thought when applied to wt.

with so many fundamental changes and revisions, can they even be correctly viewed as what they are perceived as by active jws?

if your baptism was an oath of loyalty to the organization, which organization?

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Came across this today researching something for work, and thought it was an interesting thought when applied to WT. With so many fundamental changes and revisions, can they even be correctly viewed as what they are perceived as by active JWs? If your baptism was an oath of loyalty to the organization, which organization? "John Locke proposed a scenario regarding a favorite sock that develops a hole. He pondered whether the sock would still be the same after a patch was applied to the hole, and if it would be the same sock after a second patch was applied, and a third, etc., until all of the material of the original sock has been replaced with patches." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus

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A Question about Spiritistic Books

by schnell in

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i have a nearly academic interest in the occult, though i am not a spiritualist and remain a skeptic.

i've come to learn that demons are based on everything from dust devils in the desert, to diseases, to actual people.

probably most of all, demons are a tool of good ol' fashioned con artists and fear mongers.. but here's a question.

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I'm in the middle of re-reading Manly P. Hall's Secret Teachings of all Ages right now. Read a lot of esoteric stuff years ago, revisiting it again now that I've dropped out. Seeing it with fresh eyes, the WTs ignorance on the source of certain things and references in the Bible as well as their ignorant claims on historical figures and what they believed is pretty laughable.

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How the Watchtower Could Grow In Numbers

by Sour Grapes in

if i were running the watchtower there are things that i would do to increase the numbers and increase donations.

since so many older witnesses are realizing that the false hope they had of not growing old and not having to die is fading away like a frost on a sunny autumn morning, the watchtower needs to shift gears.. as it has been stated on this forum, the emphasis needs to shift from not dying to the glorious hope of the resurrection, the gateway to paradise.

they need to deemphasize armageddon and emphasize "the way of life" that witnesses have.

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Fool me once... sorry, they could become the feel-good group of all feel-goods and they couldn't coax me back. Our family and friends have completely cut us off, it hurts and sucks, but there is no fixing what they have created, which is on a foundation of lies and deceit. There are plenty of other social clubs I could replace them with that would create an atmosphere of happier and healthier people. I am completely fine living the rest of my life as an independent agent, thank you very much.

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Article - Wales - Daily Post: 'Sly' Anglesey Jehovah's Witness preacher jailed for sex with a child

by AndersonsInfo in

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/sly-anglesey-jehovahs-witness-preacher-12361109.

dec. 22, 2016 by derek bellis.

elder, daniel anglesey pleaded guilty at caernarfon crown court and was sent to prison for two years and eight months.

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Thanks, just posted this http://www.jwabuse.com

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News and Govt. Links on abuse within WT

by jwabuse.com in

http://jwabuse.com/.

we have been building links, and received some great ones from other folks here on this forum, if anyone has anymore they think should be added, please post them here and we will get them up on the site..

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http://jwabuse.com/

We have been building links, and received some great ones from other folks here on this forum, if anyone has anymore they think should be added, please post them here and we will get them up on the site.

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Please send us your news links. jwabuse.com

by jwabuse.com in

my wife and i recently launched the website http://jwabuse.com/ as a curated, news only portal for stories from official news and governmental websites.

the idea is to keep it clean and simple with zero commentary so someone can easily access the stories and nothing more.

we have a lot of experience with website building and search engine optimization, so it shouldn't take long for this to populate in google searches.. when we were still in i steered clear of any "apostate" websites, but i never had any problem reading actual news coverage of anything.

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I would have looked through the site regardless of the domain name steve2, my main concern, and I have gotten confirmation from 2 mentally in, physically out elders who agree is that the mindset of many at this stage who are in and hearing mention of some of this stuff, is that they want to look at the news articles to make up their own minds. There are a lot of awake JWs in my area, many of whom are serving who just want answers and a way to access the links so they can share them. The site is more about archiving these links than anything else. If someone finds something particularly compelling, they can email a direct link to the story etc.

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Please send us your news links. jwabuse.com

by jwabuse.com in

my wife and i recently launched the website http://jwabuse.com/ as a curated, news only portal for stories from official news and governmental websites.

the idea is to keep it clean and simple with zero commentary so someone can easily access the stories and nothing more.

we have a lot of experience with website building and search engine optimization, so it shouldn't take long for this to populate in google searches.. when we were still in i steered clear of any "apostate" websites, but i never had any problem reading actual news coverage of anything.

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I thought about that Crazyguy, but the main reason for that domain is to draw traffic from Google searches, it's one of several elements needed to draw people looking into the subject to be able to find the articles in a search. The average in Witness probably wouldn't click on it, but someone who has heard whispers of abuse and legal issues might.

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Please send us your news links. jwabuse.com

by jwabuse.com in

my wife and i recently launched the website http://jwabuse.com/ as a curated, news only portal for stories from official news and governmental websites.

the idea is to keep it clean and simple with zero commentary so someone can easily access the stories and nothing more.

we have a lot of experience with website building and search engine optimization, so it shouldn't take long for this to populate in google searches.. when we were still in i steered clear of any "apostate" websites, but i never had any problem reading actual news coverage of anything.

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Hi Everyone,

My wife and I recently launched the website http://jwabuse.com/ as a curated, news only portal for stories from official news and governmental websites. The idea is to keep it clean and simple with zero commentary so someone can easily access the stories and nothing more. We have a lot of experience with website building and search engine optimization, so it shouldn't take long for this to populate in Google searches.

When we were still in I steered clear of any "apostate" websites, but I never had any problem reading actual news coverage of anything. We are hoping that this site may connect the dots for someone out there who is also willing to just look at "official" coverage without commentary from ex-jw's. People like Cedars and Barbara Anderson have made such a massive contribution to waking people up, we hope that this can do that for at least one person as well who may be afraid to cross the line into heavy hitting sites like jwfacts.

That being said, please send us any news links you guys might have archived over the last few years so we can add them into the archive to [email protected] if you aren't comfortable emailing them, please feel free to post them into this thread and we will add them in.

Here's some things we are looking for:

Stories from well known or respected sources
We don't want stories that are from individual blogs or from anywhere that someone can pick apart. We want every link to have an impact.
If you guys see anything in the links that you think would work against the cause of waking someone up because of something in the story, please let us know

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