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The true, unsung hero of the Bible....

by Unlearn in

my undisputed hero of the bible is known by several names, depending on who you talk to...devil, satan, lucifer, etc.. read it, and you'll find that he was the only one who really stood up for you.. he asserted that you could make decisions for yourself...and told you the very real truth that, just because the piece of meat in your chest stops thumping, you positively do not 'die'.. he was your hero.

he stood up to a daddy-maniac and said, 'just because you made us doesnt mean you have the right to tell us what to do.

i thought we were free?'.

Unlearn

oh well, Sabastious.....

all that you said about the original three being 'love' and us being a reflection, and so on and so on...all very beautiful.
makes me go all warm and fuzzy inside.
of course, you cant prove it...and frankly, you dont have to...because you FEEL it, very strongly no doubt, and thats enough for you.

that's why i dont argue with 'faith' anymore.
im saddled by these pesky things called facts...and they just are no match for 'faith'...which could care less about them.

soooo, believe what you'd like.
whatever gets you through the night.
me? i think the whole Bible thing is a great read once or twice.
and l stick by may original post: the 'Devil' fella MAKES it.
he's standing up for freedom and trying to make a point about personal and independent freedom.
is there some collateral damage in his 'method'.
no doubt. but it's much less blood than old Yaweh/Jehovah leaves behind in his friendly fire.
oh sure, 'but he can resurrect these unfortunate friendly-fire victims to a BETTER life!'.

yea....sucks they have to suffer and die tho.
ive never died before. when you're not ready and in pain, i bet its kind of scary.

ah, the god of lurvvvv.....

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The true, unsung hero of the Bible....

by Unlearn in

my undisputed hero of the bible is known by several names, depending on who you talk to...devil, satan, lucifer, etc.. read it, and you'll find that he was the only one who really stood up for you.. he asserted that you could make decisions for yourself...and told you the very real truth that, just because the piece of meat in your chest stops thumping, you positively do not 'die'.. he was your hero.

he stood up to a daddy-maniac and said, 'just because you made us doesnt mean you have the right to tell us what to do.

i thought we were free?'.

Unlearn

and let me add that im sure your desert warrior 'god of love' approves of your name-calling and such things...
i mean, he's had differences with folks before himself...and he kills those folks.

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The true, unsung hero of the Bible....

by Unlearn in

my undisputed hero of the bible is known by several names, depending on who you talk to...devil, satan, lucifer, etc.. read it, and you'll find that he was the only one who really stood up for you.. he asserted that you could make decisions for yourself...and told you the very real truth that, just because the piece of meat in your chest stops thumping, you positively do not 'die'.. he was your hero.

he stood up to a daddy-maniac and said, 'just because you made us doesnt mean you have the right to tell us what to do.

i thought we were free?'.

Unlearn

heh...who is this 'sab' person?
we're all 'spiritual babies'...because we don't believe in your stories?

never ceases to amaze me how many 'believers' eventually resort to name-calling in these little debates.
blessing and a curse when you only have 'faith' on your side...and no facts.

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The true, unsung hero of the Bible....

by Unlearn in

my undisputed hero of the bible is known by several names, depending on who you talk to...devil, satan, lucifer, etc.. read it, and you'll find that he was the only one who really stood up for you.. he asserted that you could make decisions for yourself...and told you the very real truth that, just because the piece of meat in your chest stops thumping, you positively do not 'die'.. he was your hero.

he stood up to a daddy-maniac and said, 'just because you made us doesnt mean you have the right to tell us what to do.

i thought we were free?'.

Unlearn

@ Tec -

the very idea of an 'unsung' hero means that he is UNSUNG.
therefore, there is no passage in your Bible that states that Satan is a 'hero'...primarily because the entire book is slanted propaganda from the opposition.

if youd like examples of him being an UNSUNG hero, and the reasons for which, go alllll the way back and read my first post.

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The true, unsung hero of the Bible....

by Unlearn in

my undisputed hero of the bible is known by several names, depending on who you talk to...devil, satan, lucifer, etc.. read it, and you'll find that he was the only one who really stood up for you.. he asserted that you could make decisions for yourself...and told you the very real truth that, just because the piece of meat in your chest stops thumping, you positively do not 'die'.. he was your hero.

he stood up to a daddy-maniac and said, 'just because you made us doesnt mean you have the right to tell us what to do.

i thought we were free?'.

Unlearn

@ Tec...
heh...maybe the story shows him (Satan) as no friend to JOB, who after all was doomed in this situation because of his link to his God....but NO, youre wrong, this story does not show him to be no friend to MAN, in general.
Job does not represent ALL mankind. sorry.
your argument is called a 'reductive fallacy'. its a statement of gross over-simplification.

would be like me saying that, by virtue of the way God dealt with Jezebel it can be assumed that God hates women.

Job is not all mankind. neither is Adam or Eve.

AGAIN, SHOW ME ALL OF THE EXAMPLES IN THE BIBLE THAT SHOW THAT SATAN IS NO FRIEND TO MAN.
?

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The true, unsung hero of the Bible....

by Unlearn in

my undisputed hero of the bible is known by several names, depending on who you talk to...devil, satan, lucifer, etc.. read it, and you'll find that he was the only one who really stood up for you.. he asserted that you could make decisions for yourself...and told you the very real truth that, just because the piece of meat in your chest stops thumping, you positively do not 'die'.. he was your hero.

he stood up to a daddy-maniac and said, 'just because you made us doesnt mean you have the right to tell us what to do.

i thought we were free?'.

Unlearn

So...Job.
the guy loses his kids, all of his money, and his old lady thinks he's an idiot. he's in pain...outcast, and disgraced.
he's basically going through an experience that would lead many well-adjusted, nice guys to suicide.
so he calls out to God and, in so many words, asks...'Why me?'

so, God proceeds to give him a more-than-chapers-worth rebuke/lecture.
and NEVER ONCE lets him in on 'the game'.

and THAT, excuse my french, is a punk ass move on the part of the 'god of love and compassion'.

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The true, unsung hero of the Bible....

by Unlearn in

my undisputed hero of the bible is known by several names, depending on who you talk to...devil, satan, lucifer, etc.. read it, and you'll find that he was the only one who really stood up for you.. he asserted that you could make decisions for yourself...and told you the very real truth that, just because the piece of meat in your chest stops thumping, you positively do not 'die'.. he was your hero.

he stood up to a daddy-maniac and said, 'just because you made us doesnt mean you have the right to tell us what to do.

i thought we were free?'.

Unlearn

God's laws regarding homosexuality, slavery, a misogynistic attitude towards women, etc etc (i could go on and you KNOW this) show that Jehuvah/Yaweh is no friend to men, either.
depending on what kind of human being you are, i suppose.

i wont debate anymore. i love you with a universal love, because we are all connected. I am in you and you are in me...we always have been and always will be. i love you.

but, i made a promise to myself to never argue 'faith' again.
not a fair fight: im bounded by logic and facts.
those are details the person of 'faith' doesnt have to sweat. ;)

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The true, unsung hero of the Bible....

by Unlearn in

my undisputed hero of the bible is known by several names, depending on who you talk to...devil, satan, lucifer, etc.. read it, and you'll find that he was the only one who really stood up for you.. he asserted that you could make decisions for yourself...and told you the very real truth that, just because the piece of meat in your chest stops thumping, you positively do not 'die'.. he was your hero.

he stood up to a daddy-maniac and said, 'just because you made us doesnt mean you have the right to tell us what to do.

i thought we were free?'.

Unlearn

@ Tec....

SO, you stated Adam, Eve, and old Job.
give me the various other exampes in the Bible where Satan was 'no friend to man'.
name names.

Ah, but here's the catch: no fair if it's GOD saying that Satan was being unfriendly.
i want real, objective examples of Satan's rank and unfriendly disposition towards man.

ready?
GO!

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The true, unsung hero of the Bible....

by Unlearn in

my undisputed hero of the bible is known by several names, depending on who you talk to...devil, satan, lucifer, etc.. read it, and you'll find that he was the only one who really stood up for you.. he asserted that you could make decisions for yourself...and told you the very real truth that, just because the piece of meat in your chest stops thumping, you positively do not 'die'.. he was your hero.

he stood up to a daddy-maniac and said, 'just because you made us doesnt mean you have the right to tell us what to do.

i thought we were free?'.

Unlearn

@ tec again....

but just to play along...

- Adam and Eve -
pretty sucky of God...an all-knowing God, to let such a wicked creature molest his other creatures...younger ones, more vulnerable in fact. seems like he called himself the protector in many passages. said he'd fight for his folks...bothering them was like 'touching his eyeball'. and yet this vile serpent-thing was allowed to molest his youngest creation...and on the down-low. Great Jehoah-Jesus needs to work on his 'radar'.

-Job-
i know this...if someone ever tried to convince me to play a game of 'chicken', using my daughter as the 'test subject'...hell, I might blow up on him right then and there. if i was stupid enough to agree...just to 'prove a point', i certainly wouldve called the whole thing off after innocent children were killed in the scattershot. i suppose seeing my little girl covered in boils and scratching them with pottery shards would be the final straw.
nah...old Job had someone to be angry with alright. his 'friend', who let him be toyed with on 'principle'.

Yea...Satan has good reason not to like a whole lot of us. it must royally suck to constantly implore a race of apes to AWAKE and get free and they keep choosing the side of the slave master who's always promising greener pastures ahead...
cant blame him.

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The true, unsung hero of the Bible....

by Unlearn in

my undisputed hero of the bible is known by several names, depending on who you talk to...devil, satan, lucifer, etc.. read it, and you'll find that he was the only one who really stood up for you.. he asserted that you could make decisions for yourself...and told you the very real truth that, just because the piece of meat in your chest stops thumping, you positively do not 'die'.. he was your hero.

he stood up to a daddy-maniac and said, 'just because you made us doesnt mean you have the right to tell us what to do.

i thought we were free?'.

Unlearn

@tec -

then again, Doctor Doom doesn't seem like much of a hero, either.
but then, hes not real.