heh...
'no doubt'.
you're omniscient too.
Jesus Christ....(no pun intended).
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The Jackson Family Circus -or- WE know whats really going on with Katherine Jackson vs her kids...
by Unlearn inso, i dont know if this has been posted/addressed here...but watching this whole jackson family thing play out in the public eye is surreal.. the press assume that the only reason mj's brothers and janet are contesting his will and want control of the kids, is money.. seriously...mj's bros and sisters dont need his money: his bros get paid everytime you hear a jackson 5 song.
they're all millionaires.. janet is loaded.
but, the media doesnt know what we know...so they assume that the only reason they'd want mj's kids is for the $$$$ that come along with them as part of the deal.. we know better.. i believe a big amount of respect is due to janet and jermaine and the rest of the gang...theyre trying to rescue those kids from a jw brainwashing fate.. i'd bet money on it.. they say janet was trying to convince paris to willingly leave her grandmothers home and come with them.. im telling you...they're trying to save those kids.. and as any of you who have close family still in the cult can attest to, we apostates are some of the most loving, long-suffering people on the planet...as many of us publicly hold our tongues repeatedly when it comes to that cult, because we dont want to hurt mom, or dad, or kids, or siblings.
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The Jackson Family Circus -or- WE know whats really going on with Katherine Jackson vs her kids...
by Unlearn inso, i dont know if this has been posted/addressed here...but watching this whole jackson family thing play out in the public eye is surreal.. the press assume that the only reason mj's brothers and janet are contesting his will and want control of the kids, is money.. seriously...mj's bros and sisters dont need his money: his bros get paid everytime you hear a jackson 5 song.
they're all millionaires.. janet is loaded.
but, the media doesnt know what we know...so they assume that the only reason they'd want mj's kids is for the $$$$ that come along with them as part of the deal.. we know better.. i believe a big amount of respect is due to janet and jermaine and the rest of the gang...theyre trying to rescue those kids from a jw brainwashing fate.. i'd bet money on it.. they say janet was trying to convince paris to willingly leave her grandmothers home and come with them.. im telling you...they're trying to save those kids.. and as any of you who have close family still in the cult can attest to, we apostates are some of the most loving, long-suffering people on the planet...as many of us publicly hold our tongues repeatedly when it comes to that cult, because we dont want to hurt mom, or dad, or kids, or siblings.
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BREAKING NEWS - today, a judge ruled that Katherine Jackson has lost custody of the kids.
clearly the judge and legal forces involved cant see through the money-grubbing plot of the ENTIRE rest of the family...eh slimboy?
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The Jackson Family Circus -or- WE know whats really going on with Katherine Jackson vs her kids...
by Unlearn inso, i dont know if this has been posted/addressed here...but watching this whole jackson family thing play out in the public eye is surreal.. the press assume that the only reason mj's brothers and janet are contesting his will and want control of the kids, is money.. seriously...mj's bros and sisters dont need his money: his bros get paid everytime you hear a jackson 5 song.
they're all millionaires.. janet is loaded.
but, the media doesnt know what we know...so they assume that the only reason they'd want mj's kids is for the $$$$ that come along with them as part of the deal.. we know better.. i believe a big amount of respect is due to janet and jermaine and the rest of the gang...theyre trying to rescue those kids from a jw brainwashing fate.. i'd bet money on it.. they say janet was trying to convince paris to willingly leave her grandmothers home and come with them.. im telling you...they're trying to save those kids.. and as any of you who have close family still in the cult can attest to, we apostates are some of the most loving, long-suffering people on the planet...as many of us publicly hold our tongues repeatedly when it comes to that cult, because we dont want to hurt mom, or dad, or kids, or siblings.
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wow slimboy...you're jehovah-ish!
you can conclusively read motivations.
please, cleanse my heart.
like i said...cant conclusively prove it, but id bet it's JW related.
pretty far-fetched idea to me that ALL the kids would gang up and go after old mother for dead little brothers money.
guess i give the family more credit than that.
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The Jackson Family Circus -or- WE know whats really going on with Katherine Jackson vs her kids...
by Unlearn inso, i dont know if this has been posted/addressed here...but watching this whole jackson family thing play out in the public eye is surreal.. the press assume that the only reason mj's brothers and janet are contesting his will and want control of the kids, is money.. seriously...mj's bros and sisters dont need his money: his bros get paid everytime you hear a jackson 5 song.
they're all millionaires.. janet is loaded.
but, the media doesnt know what we know...so they assume that the only reason they'd want mj's kids is for the $$$$ that come along with them as part of the deal.. we know better.. i believe a big amount of respect is due to janet and jermaine and the rest of the gang...theyre trying to rescue those kids from a jw brainwashing fate.. i'd bet money on it.. they say janet was trying to convince paris to willingly leave her grandmothers home and come with them.. im telling you...they're trying to save those kids.. and as any of you who have close family still in the cult can attest to, we apostates are some of the most loving, long-suffering people on the planet...as many of us publicly hold our tongues repeatedly when it comes to that cult, because we dont want to hurt mom, or dad, or kids, or siblings.
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i always love it when someone responds to an opinionated post (i.e. - one that cannot be conclusively proven wrong or right at the time) with, 'No. You're wrong.'
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The Jackson Family Circus -or- WE know whats really going on with Katherine Jackson vs her kids...
by Unlearn inso, i dont know if this has been posted/addressed here...but watching this whole jackson family thing play out in the public eye is surreal.. the press assume that the only reason mj's brothers and janet are contesting his will and want control of the kids, is money.. seriously...mj's bros and sisters dont need his money: his bros get paid everytime you hear a jackson 5 song.
they're all millionaires.. janet is loaded.
but, the media doesnt know what we know...so they assume that the only reason they'd want mj's kids is for the $$$$ that come along with them as part of the deal.. we know better.. i believe a big amount of respect is due to janet and jermaine and the rest of the gang...theyre trying to rescue those kids from a jw brainwashing fate.. i'd bet money on it.. they say janet was trying to convince paris to willingly leave her grandmothers home and come with them.. im telling you...they're trying to save those kids.. and as any of you who have close family still in the cult can attest to, we apostates are some of the most loving, long-suffering people on the planet...as many of us publicly hold our tongues repeatedly when it comes to that cult, because we dont want to hurt mom, or dad, or kids, or siblings.
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you obviously havent heard some of the insinuations that Jermaine, Randy, Janet, and LaToya have made in interviews.
and yes, my post explained why someone in their positions (VERY high profile) wouldn't say something openly negative about the witnesses.
when Jermaine does an interview years ago and says that there were certain things in his upbringing that were not healthy, but that he understands that his parents did what they thought was right....and then says that, as an adult, his new spiritual beliefs cleansed him of old 'harmful' things...well, read between the lines.
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The Jackson Family Circus -or- WE know whats really going on with Katherine Jackson vs her kids...
by Unlearn inso, i dont know if this has been posted/addressed here...but watching this whole jackson family thing play out in the public eye is surreal.. the press assume that the only reason mj's brothers and janet are contesting his will and want control of the kids, is money.. seriously...mj's bros and sisters dont need his money: his bros get paid everytime you hear a jackson 5 song.
they're all millionaires.. janet is loaded.
but, the media doesnt know what we know...so they assume that the only reason they'd want mj's kids is for the $$$$ that come along with them as part of the deal.. we know better.. i believe a big amount of respect is due to janet and jermaine and the rest of the gang...theyre trying to rescue those kids from a jw brainwashing fate.. i'd bet money on it.. they say janet was trying to convince paris to willingly leave her grandmothers home and come with them.. im telling you...they're trying to save those kids.. and as any of you who have close family still in the cult can attest to, we apostates are some of the most loving, long-suffering people on the planet...as many of us publicly hold our tongues repeatedly when it comes to that cult, because we dont want to hurt mom, or dad, or kids, or siblings.
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so, i dont know if this has been posted/addressed here...but watching this whole Jackson family thing play out in the public eye is surreal.
the press assume that the only reason MJ's brothers and Janet are contesting his will and want control of the kids, is money.
seriously...MJ's bros and sisters dont need his money: his bros get paid EVERYTIME you hear a Jackson 5 song. they're ALL millionaires.
Janet is loaded. they're all loaded.
but, the media doesnt know what we know...so they assume that the only reason they'd want MJ's kids is for the $$$$ that come along with them as part of the deal.
we know better.
i believe a big amount of respect is due to Janet and Jermaine and the rest of the gang...theyre trying to rescue those kids from a JW brainwashing fate.
i'd bet money on it.
they say Janet was trying to convince Paris to willingly leave her grandmothers home and come with them.
im telling you...they're trying to save those kids.
and as ANY of you who have close family still in the cult can attest to, we apostates are some of the most loving, long-suffering people on the planet...as many of us publicly hold our tongues REPEATEDLY when it comes to that cult, because we dont want to hurt mom, or dad, or kids, or siblings.
so, the Jackson siblings aint talking about whats REALLY going on...as theyre trying to respect/protect their mothers' feelings.
but they're right to try and get those kids out.
im sure they feel like they owe it to Mike, as well...as he totally wouldnt want his kids living that way: he ran from that garbage.
Still, someone might say, 'But Mike said in his will that he wanted his mother to get his kids!'
well, maybe THAT is why his brothers and sisters are contesting the accuracy/TRUTHFULNESS of the will and its excecution.just a thought....
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Does anyone have copies of Cease and Desist letters sent to elders from a LAWYER?
by Greybeard injust preparing and looking for information.
i suspect i will be under the gun soon as a close friend of mine already is.
they are asking him to meet with them as they have "witnesses to his apostacy".
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Watchtower, Wolverine, and the LIE that every 13-year-old saw RIGHT AWAY...
by Unlearn ini'll always remember this issue of the awake warning jw parents about comic books and why they were so dangerous.. the cover had a kid on the front sitting indian-style reading a comic book, wide-eyed and smiling.
came out in the early 1980's.. i'll always remember it because it screwed up one of my favorite past-times: i was around 13 years old and a hardcore collector.. after this article, it was a continual tug-o-war with my dad over comics....and it lasted until i was 18 and moved out.. .
here's what was telling about that article:.
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an interesting aside:
i got appointed as an elder back when i was 30 years old....but i found out years later from another elder on the body, that i had actually been almost appointed 6 months before, but it was objected to by one elder in particular...who's major problem with me was that I had turned his 14 year-old son on to comic reading/collecting a year or two before. and guess which mag he dug up to support his point?
yep...the 1983 AWAKE on comics...
which had come out 17 years earlier....
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Watchtower, Wolverine, and the LIE that every 13-year-old saw RIGHT AWAY...
by Unlearn ini'll always remember this issue of the awake warning jw parents about comic books and why they were so dangerous.. the cover had a kid on the front sitting indian-style reading a comic book, wide-eyed and smiling.
came out in the early 1980's.. i'll always remember it because it screwed up one of my favorite past-times: i was around 13 years old and a hardcore collector.. after this article, it was a continual tug-o-war with my dad over comics....and it lasted until i was 18 and moved out.. .
here's what was telling about that article:.
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i'll always remember this issue of the Awake warning JW parents about comic books and why they were so dangerous.
the cover had a kid on the front sitting indian-style reading a comic book, wide-eyed and smiling. came out in the early 1980's.
i'll always remember it because it screwed up one of my favorite past-times: i was around 13 years old and a hardcore collector.after this article, it was a continual tug-o-war with my dad over comics....and it lasted until i was 18 and moved out.
here's what was telling about that article:
it picutred some comics in one panel...one of them being a copy of WOLVERINE, from the limited series that came out in the early 80's. btw, the cover of that comic shows him sitting in the dark...dejected and sad over the fact that (as you learn in the comic) someone very close to him has just died. underneath the image of this comics cover, the AWAKE caption said something about how certain comics (such as the one depicted) deal with 'the occult'.
at 12 years old, that was the first rumbling of something fishy in WT (from my POV)....i knew it then, but it wasn't clearly defined. see, i was an expert on the X-Men...and i had that very Wolverine comic from the early 80's. i'd read it...many times. AND THEY WERE LYING. there was NOTHING in there about the occult. so WHY WOULD THEY EVEN ATTEMPT TO MAKE THAT CLAIM? ah, they looked at the cover and saw a weird looking man...a 'monster' man. sitting in the dark. and the title...'Wolverine'...i can almost bet they heard something similar to 'wolfman'. who knows.
any kid with a working knowledge of the marvel comics universe in the early 80's would've looked at that and had the same reaction....
'Nuuh Uhhhn! THATS NOT TRUE! Wolverine is not occult! YOU'RE LYING!'
that's 'child-speak' for, 'You're trying to use superficial stereotypes bandied about for years by fundamental right-wing idealists to push an erroneus conclusion!'
they hadn't even bothered to read the comic. they'd seen the cover and made blanket assumptions based on 1950's era stereotypes.
they hadn't even read it and they just LIED. isn't lying wrong?
and they'd lied about Wolverine. which pissed me off.
and jacked with one of the pure joys of childhood i enjoyed...guilt-free.
call me petty...whatever:
i'll never forgive.
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Sparlock Links And Artwork
by DT inwe already have at least fifteen threads about sparlock the warrior wizard at last count.
it's getting difficult to keep track of his exploits.
i thought it might help if we can consolidate the links and artwork about him in this thread.
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@ nomadsoul -
trust me, im in 'the business': they could. im not talking about making just one, but many.
and yes, they could go after you on intellectual property rights, even if you're not selling them...even if you're GIVING THEM AWAY. doesn't mean they'd win, but they are just the type of org that would force you to defend yourself...just to make you bleed your $$$ away. ive seen it done.
'parody' laws only get you so far...and 'fair use' is VERY relative these days, thanks to the internet.
plus, if watchtower ever found out that I was behind it, specifically...well...there are certain instigatory elements up there in Brooklyn who would take GREAT pleasure nailing my ass to the wall.
ALL THAT SAID....
hell yeah.
i could do it.
and introduce it to a MUCH wider audience than just 'us'.