Posts by Reservations

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2020’s are already a Train Wreck for JW ORG

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as the title says, we are nearly at the end of the 2nd year of the 2020’s, and already jw org is not only a car crash, but an absolute train wreck.. i’ve watched the annual meeting 2021 already, and it seems the gb are in fighting, morris openly disagreeing with lett, that is massive, and it’s something that has largely not been commented on by this community.

covid-19 is not going anywhere, any trial meetings will surely be shut down, now omicron is doing the rounds.. it looks highly likely we will see a second negative growth year.

“young ones” are waking up by the masses.

Reservations

I think it gives the PIMOs something substantial to bring up to their spouses/friends/family.

A lot of things can not be brought up, child abuse allegations for example, without getting it shut down by the true believers, or without some suspicion as to where the info was found out.

Literally Lett said last year in the Covid update, that we are in the last day of the last days. and already Morris is critical of it. And the videos are so easy to find.

What it does is give PIMOs an opportunity to say “I’ll take everything they say with a punch of salt”, because what’s written or said is changed so quickly.

It’s quite hard to explain the nuance without seeing both videos.

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2020’s are already a Train Wreck for JW ORG

by Reservations in

as the title says, we are nearly at the end of the 2nd year of the 2020’s, and already jw org is not only a car crash, but an absolute train wreck.. i’ve watched the annual meeting 2021 already, and it seems the gb are in fighting, morris openly disagreeing with lett, that is massive, and it’s something that has largely not been commented on by this community.

covid-19 is not going anywhere, any trial meetings will surely be shut down, now omicron is doing the rounds.. it looks highly likely we will see a second negative growth year.

“young ones” are waking up by the masses.

Reservations

R&R:

The annual meeting.

I’ve had a re-think about the 0.6 decrease. I think it will be larger.

But like I have said, I think the religion isn’t going anywhere (3 months ago), but I do think it will drastically different from today.

Think back to 2011, it’s changed a hell of a lot. That’s just facts

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2020’s are already a Train Wreck for JW ORG

by Reservations in

as the title says, we are nearly at the end of the 2nd year of the 2020’s, and already jw org is not only a car crash, but an absolute train wreck.. i’ve watched the annual meeting 2021 already, and it seems the gb are in fighting, morris openly disagreeing with lett, that is massive, and it’s something that has largely not been commented on by this community.

covid-19 is not going anywhere, any trial meetings will surely be shut down, now omicron is doing the rounds.. it looks highly likely we will see a second negative growth year.

“young ones” are waking up by the masses.

Reservations

As the title says, we are nearly at the end of the 2nd year of the 2020’s, and already JW ORG is not only a car crash, but an absolute train wreck.

I’ve watched the annual meeting 2021 already, and it seems the GB are IN fighting, Morris openly disagreeing with Lett, that is massive, and it’s something that has largely not been commented on by this community.

COVID-19 is not going anywhere, any trial meetings will surely be shut down, now Omicron is doing the rounds.

It looks highly likely we will see a second negative growth year.

“Young ones” are waking up by the masses

”older ones” are dying off by the shed load.

The JW religion will not die off by 2030, but I suspect it will be vastly different than the 2021 version we see today.

I suppose only time will tell.

But like most train wrecks, you can’t help but watch, and as a PIMO Elder, I am watching closely with a smile on my face.

Reservations

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When it comes to "we must be ready to obey whether....it

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i believe the the organization will tell it's members to sign over their mortgages and savings to the organization.

because of the impending fall of the financial institutions and the organization is the only place where it will be safe.

this has to be the only scenario possible because obviously they won't do a jonestown and where could 8 million flee to?

Reservations

I’ve been thinking this exact same thing recently.

No way they will go Jonestown route

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If you think Watchtower is disappearing any time soon…

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you are sadly mistaken.. i hear people say it on here all the time, and dare i say his name *cough* lloyd evans *cough* has said it a number of times, that watchtower is running scared and watchtower is in decline….. we need to put in perspective the decrease from the 2020 report.

if we calculate a yearly -0.6 decrease over a 10 year period from 2020 figures it leaves us the grand total number of witnesses of:.

by 2030: - 7,933,479. by 2040: - 7,471,357. by 2050: - 7,036,154. i agree that this is a significant decrease, but let’s not kid ourselves, the wt organisation will still be alive and well even with an annual 0.6% loss.

Reservations

You are sadly mistaken.

I hear people say it on here all the time, and dare I say his name *cough* Lloyd evans *cough* has said it a number of times, that Watchtower is running scared and watchtower is in decline….

We need to put in perspective the decrease from the 2020 report. It was 0.6%

If we calculate a yearly -0.6 decrease over a 10 year period from 2020 figures it leaves us the grand total number of witnesses of:

by 2030: - 7,933,479

by 2040: - 7,471,357

by 2050: - 7,036,154

I agree that this is a significant decrease, but let’s not kid ourselves, the WT organisation will still be alive and well even with an annual 0.6% loss. Any reports of it’s near collapse are largely exaggerated.

Although this all might sound pessimistic, I still hold on hope that something massive will cause the WTs collapse, one event that will bring it to its knees. But sadly, that’s all most of us can do, hope.

Reservations

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PIMO elder

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jw
friends

i’m reservations, pimo elder.

i’m in no position to leave the organisation, maybe some people will see that as weak or whatever, but we have to all go down our own path in life.. i would like to be able to wake people up in my congregation, how do you think best to do this?

any ideas?.

Reservations

You all make some fantastic points. Thanks for the advice.

On the point of “why” I want to wake people up…pistolpete you make a good point, the paradise has a calming effect on people, they will wake up when they want. Maybe I need to just focus on myself more, and what will be will be.

There is also an element of staying an elder, then when something scandalous happens (ie: child abuse coverup hits the fan) quit in a blaze of glory, but I think I might just be kidding myself. You can forever put off leaving, waiting for the precise moment. I don’t know.

Lots to think about

Rezza (thanks punkofnice)

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PIMO elder

by Reservations in

jw
friends

i’m reservations, pimo elder.

i’m in no position to leave the organisation, maybe some people will see that as weak or whatever, but we have to all go down our own path in life.. i would like to be able to wake people up in my congregation, how do you think best to do this?

any ideas?.

Reservations

Hi

I’m Reservations, PIMO elder. I’m in no position to leave the organisation, maybe some people will see that as weak or whatever, but we have to all go down our own path in life.

I would like to be able to wake people up in my congregation, how do you think best to do this? Any ideas?

Reservations

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Increase = Jehovah’s Blessing?

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i’ve been trying to find any recent quotes that say the increase in witnesses every year is evidence of jehovah’s blessing on the organisation.. i know the ready made excuse if there is a decrease is “love of greater number will cool off”….

after splanes talk i can feel a significant decrease coming..

Reservations

Thanks Jeffro

Typical watchtower literally saying it does and it doesn’t in the same sentence.

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Increase = Jehovah’s Blessing?

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i’ve been trying to find any recent quotes that say the increase in witnesses every year is evidence of jehovah’s blessing on the organisation.. i know the ready made excuse if there is a decrease is “love of greater number will cool off”….

after splanes talk i can feel a significant decrease coming..

Reservations

But does anyone have any quotes from the organisation recently that says “increase of publishers = Jehovah’s blessing”?

Because it’s generally accepted, if the org is the 1 true religion, everyone else is loosing members whilst we are gaining them. But….I can’t remember ever seeing it published…

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Increase = Jehovah’s Blessing?

by Reservations in

i’ve been trying to find any recent quotes that say the increase in witnesses every year is evidence of jehovah’s blessing on the organisation.. i know the ready made excuse if there is a decrease is “love of greater number will cool off”….

after splanes talk i can feel a significant decrease coming..

Reservations

I would argue that the 15 minute a month reporting change won’t make much of a difference. Those who leave, can’t report any time. And I feel the report will make it obvious that there has been a lot who have left. IMHO obviously

I know many elders and servants who started reporting 15 mins a month in the past year.