Posts by Boredposter

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Why are there more sisters than brothers at the Kingdom Hauls?

by Sour Grapes in

i have always wondered why there are more females than males in all of the congregations that i have visited?

some of these females are in their 70's so maybe their husbands have died and women just live longer.

or could the reason be that years ago men were the breadwinners and women stayed home to raise the children thus they were home during the week when the jdubs came a knocking?

Why are there more sisters than brothers at the Kingdom Hauls?

by Sour Grapes in

i have always wondered why there are more females than males in all of the congregations that i have visited?

some of these females are in their 70's so maybe their husbands have died and women just live longer.

or could the reason be that years ago men were the breadwinners and women stayed home to raise the children thus they were home during the week when the jdubs came a knocking?

After leaving the JWs - Has anyone stayed with Christianity?

by rulehayl in

i recently made the decision to stop studying with my study conductor, due to a situation i found myself in that led to a high possibility of my unbaptized publisher "rights" being taken away from me.

i have since told my study conductor i have joined a new church (to which she dropped me like a hot rock, of course).... last time i posted on here, i was progressing nicely towards baptism, and was well into it.anyhoo, i like my new church, very hillsong-esqe.

so just wondering if anyone else has stayed the course of christianity after leaving the jws, and if so - where did you go?

Boredposter

From what I can tell it use to be more common that when people left the JW's many (maybe most?) would stay christian. However, things have changed (perhaps along with society) that now most who leave become agnostic/atheist/Humanist.

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JW's make the big time news

by eyeuse2badub in

lifestyle.

ex-jehovah's witnesses break silence on shunning: 'my mother treats me like i'm dead'.

detroit free press 3 hours ago .

Boredposter

https://youtu.be/T1Q0M7Wuuqc

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Shunning and Changes to the Brain

by Boredposter in

all who are shunned know the adverse effects of such.

we feel it.

we know how it has changed us.

Boredposter

Thanks Berry.

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Shunning and Changes to the Brain

by Boredposter in

all who are shunned know the adverse effects of such.

we feel it.

we know how it has changed us.

Boredposter

All who are shunned know the adverse effects of such. We feel it. We know how it has changed us. But does it the experience change our brain? I believe it does. I base this on my own talks with pschyologists, therapists, research and my own experience. I don't know how in depth this has been studied though by actual researchers. I would like to see it done. If you know of such research ease post it. I have linked below research done as to trauma and the brain changing. I believe shunning is trauma and in most cases what led up to shunning is someone who has been through trauma.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3181836/

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/workings-well-being/201703/how-heal-the-traumatized-brain

http://bigthink.com/philip-perry/been-traumatized-here-is-how-ptsd-rewires-the-brain.amp

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JW's make the big time news

by eyeuse2badub in

lifestyle.

ex-jehovah's witnesses break silence on shunning: 'my mother treats me like i'm dead'.

detroit free press 3 hours ago .

Boredposter

I think we agree Jeff on the extreme shunning as being unreasonable. What is reasonable then? Something else for sure. What is discipline? A correction, a readjustment. Some people might say tough love but even in tough love support is not withdrawn from people (outside of JW's). I think this question goes to the very core of what religion/myth is supposed to do. Yes, the big questions are supposed to be answered but there is also some sort of transformation that takes place in a person. Something a person can rely in even in the toughest of situations. Clearly, this hasn't happened for someone disfellowshipped. Why? That is the question and how can it be achieved? Taking all support from someone is obviously not the answer. But what is?

In my opinion disfellowshipping is the ultimate failure. It is the 'easy way out for elders'. A huge failure in helping someone to transform their inner self.

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JW's make the big time news

by eyeuse2badub in

lifestyle.

ex-jehovah's witnesses break silence on shunning: 'my mother treats me like i'm dead'.

detroit free press 3 hours ago .

Boredposter

These articles always seem to show the two sides with a huge gap in ideology between them. Someone can read these two sides and agree with both. It would seem 'reasonable' to have to have some form of 'discipline' in a religion to hold people accountable.

However, JW.org needs to recognize the pscychological vulnerability of people who are shunned. Simply dropping all support to a person in such a fragile state is criminal. Most people are disfellowshipped after that person voluntarily seeks help for a problem they are having. They usually have some pscychological issues going on already. The action is simply a symptom of those issues. They usually already know what they have been doing is wrong (which is why they seek help with the elders). To take away support at that time is not the right course of action. There needs to be a reform put in place which gives a 'time out as they say) but also gives support.

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The strange case of Gerrit Losch

by Gorbatchov in

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friends

one of the recent molest cases had a signed declaration of gerrit losch, stating he has no relation with watchtower and that he has no control over watchtower and he does not answer to watchtower.. this month he is hosting the watchtower broadcasting show, on a watchtower media chanel, with a watchtower president starring as co-host, with statements, media and music that have intellectual ownership and copyright by watchtower.. gerrit is asking on broadcasting for respect for “the slave”, just like jehova and jesus respect “the slave” and will even reward them.. are the writers of the statement too stupid to see the correlation between teaching and practicing?.

these man are proven liars.. how can hold this firewall stand?

it’s so thin.. a judge can see this mismach isn’t it??.

Boredposter

He may not answer to Watchtower but Watchtower is supposed to answer to him (since it is the governing body's legal tool). Therefore, it's time for the governing body to clean up that sh*t.

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Is the USA too big?

by Diogenesister in

fred deftone on another thread about the tragic events at m. stoneman douglas school:.

the us constitution wasn't written for 50 states either.

the country has gotten too big and i think the solution is fragmentation.

Boredposter

No, the United States is not too big. Let New York be New York and Texas be Texas. This is why we are best as a republic. The states should have more say in local decisions and the federal government should have less say over the states. However, for security reasons we need to stick together because we are stonger together than apart. I believe Lincoln already showed us that.