Posts by Normalfulla

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Hotel California

by Normalfulla in

growing up was ok being a jw or so i thought, i guess u accept life as it comes when yr a kid , anyhow i played guitar and my elder dad (who is currently df) would forbid me to learn hotel california or even if it came on the radio he would run and quickly turn it off , .

he explained he had heard a tape recording at work that explained that this song along with stairway to heaven and others had back masking on it and when played backwards would say stuff like "satan has his own congregation " or other stuff like that , now this was not a jw sanctioned audio talk just some other christian production .. none of dad's other peers felt the same and growing up it illustrated to me dad's propensity to be influenced and convinced about something seemingly innocuous to others.. fast forward to a year or so ago and i showed him a section from the eagles documentary where don henley talks about the meaning of hotel california and how much trouble christian evangelists gave the song due to their own interpretation etc , so completely refuted the claims my father had told me were fact as a kid ,from the horses mouth so to speak .

his answer was ,"well of course he'd say that he wants to save face ,he wouldn't admit the truth !".

Normalfulla

growing up was OK being a jw or so I thought, I guess u accept life as it comes when yr a kid , anyhow I played guitar and my elder dad (who is currently df) would forbid me to learn hotel California or even if it came on the radio he would run and quickly turn it off ,

He explained he had heard a tape recording at work that explained that this song along with stairway to heaven and others had back masking on it and when played backwards would say stuff like "Satan has his own congregation " or other stuff like that , now this was not a jw sanctioned audio talk just some other Christian production .

None of dad's other peers felt the same and growing up it illustrated to me dad's propensity to be influenced and convinced about something seemingly innocuous to others.

Fast forward to a year or so ago and I showed him a section from the Eagles documentary where Don Henley talks about the meaning of hotel California and how much trouble Christian evangelists gave the song due to their own interpretation etc , so completely refuted the claims my father had told me were fact as a kid ,from the horses mouth so to speak

His answer was ,"well of course he'd say that he wants to save face ,he wouldn't admit the truth !"

OMG I can understand why the man despite my attempts to show him ttat continues to be unswayed , some people just refuse to see what is plainly in front of them

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WT - Study Ed, October 2017 - The Truth Brings, “Not Peace, But a Sword”

by Sanchy in

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another article analyzing how bad poor jw's have it when it comes to opposition from family.

few interesting quotes:.

parr 2:.

Normalfulla

Hmmm so my dad has been df for 2.5 years now ,never wanted to be df and has been trying to come back ever since ,I mean really trying ! Going to all the meetings , he's on his 6th reinstatement request now and this time it was denied because he doesn't show enough repentance ,wtf they could just say we don't like you that would make more sense , meanwhile his 3 other children shun him and he has no friends or any human compassion from the people he held dear all his life ,makes me sick ,I get protection of the Congo but people get abused by their awol mentality and rules

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Finally ready to join the crowd.

by Silent Knight in

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friends

hello, all you damn dirty apostates!

please, allow me to join this community of diseased minds.

i have been lurking here for over 2 years and tonight i decided it's time to come out of the shadows.

Normalfulla

Kia ora SK ,the feeling of someone waking up I can only describe as the opposite of an assembly of applause at a baptism , welcome brother 🤗👍

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My last talk

by Normalfulla in

so i was recalling my last talk , it was something to do with finding jehovah's treasures or something anyhow in my prep i decided to google "real life treasure maps " and i came across the copper scroll which was found with the dead sea scrolls https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/copper_scroll and i described the real life treasure map etc and of course likened it to the bible as if it were a treasure map to life (duh) anyway afterwards an elder present at my talk said "i wouldn't believe everything u read on the internet" .

i was totally pissed off by his comments as though if it didn't come from a wt publication it can't be trusted as true , this was before i woke up but i was so incensed by his comments it messed with me that he would doubt my research and then ..... i woke up but that wasn't what did it just an.event along the way.

Normalfulla

Pete lmao that meme is gold

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My last talk

by Normalfulla in

so i was recalling my last talk , it was something to do with finding jehovah's treasures or something anyhow in my prep i decided to google "real life treasure maps " and i came across the copper scroll which was found with the dead sea scrolls https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/copper_scroll and i described the real life treasure map etc and of course likened it to the bible as if it were a treasure map to life (duh) anyway afterwards an elder present at my talk said "i wouldn't believe everything u read on the internet" .

i was totally pissed off by his comments as though if it didn't come from a wt publication it can't be trusted as true , this was before i woke up but i was so incensed by his comments it messed with me that he would doubt my research and then ..... i woke up but that wasn't what did it just an.event along the way.

Normalfulla

So I was recalling my last talk , it was something to do with finding Jehovah's treasures or something anyhow in my prep I decided to Google "real life treasure maps " and I came across the copper scroll which was found with the dead sea scrolls https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copper_Scroll and I described the real life treasure map etc and of course likened it to the bible as if it were a treasure map to life (duh) anyway afterwards an elder present at my talk said "I wouldn't believe everything u read on the internet"

I was totally pissed off by his comments as though if it didn't come from a WT publication it can't be trusted as true , this was before I woke up but I was so incensed by his comments it messed with me that he would doubt my research and then ..... I woke up but that wasn't what did it just an.event along the way

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Elder Told A JW To Ignore Governing Body Advice

by pale.emperor in

i had an interesting conversation with a fellow ex-jw yesterday.

for the sake of this post lets call her "katie".

katie is a former pioneer who suddenly stopped attending meetings and managed to be left alone by the elders.

Normalfulla

On my way out ,the elder who was trying to talk" sense" into me when I was questioning the GB's legitimacy said" he doesn't take much notice of them and just focuses on the truth " I could hardly believe my ears ,I guess the new rockstar GB hasn't found as much adulation from some entrenched jws as I thought

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Apostate carts

by Normalfulla in

so i've recently been travelling about usa and mexico and of course seen the carts parked at tourist spots all over and i had a funny thought ...if somehow we could get a bunch of identical carts together and print up a placard with a few key facts about the real truth with jwfacts logo and just park them right in the same areas ,dress up in our old meeting clothes and stand about with a coffee and look on our phones i wonder what response we would get from anyone ?

or park them outside assembly's and just stand.off at a distance ...basically the same thing they do to all society !.

Normalfulla

DOC -it was merely a musing not a literal idea :-)

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Apostate carts

by Normalfulla in

so i've recently been travelling about usa and mexico and of course seen the carts parked at tourist spots all over and i had a funny thought ...if somehow we could get a bunch of identical carts together and print up a placard with a few key facts about the real truth with jwfacts logo and just park them right in the same areas ,dress up in our old meeting clothes and stand about with a coffee and look on our phones i wonder what response we would get from anyone ?

or park them outside assembly's and just stand.off at a distance ...basically the same thing they do to all society !.

Normalfulla

So I've recently been travelling about USA and Mexico and of course seen the carts parked at tourist spots all over and I had a funny thought ...if somehow we could get a bunch of identical carts together and print up a placard with a few key facts about the REAL truth with jwfacts logo and just park them right in the same areas ,dress up in our old meeting clothes and stand about with a coffee and look on our phones I wonder what response we would get from anyone ? Or park them outside assembly's and just stand.off at a distance ...basically the same thing they do to all society !

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Putin's critics beware

by Normalfulla in

so just watching the news and just seen an article about a former mp who was a critic of putin and has been assassinated ,it mentioned others who had stood up to putin and received the effects of his long reaching arm , i wonder what he will think of all the letters he will be receiving shortly ?

?.

Normalfulla

So just watching the news and just seen an article about a former mp who was a critic of Putin and has been assassinated ,it mentioned others who had stood up to putin and received the effects of his long reaching arm , I wonder what he will think of all the letters he will be receiving shortly ??

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Part of Growing Up - Saying Goodbye to Invisible Friends?

by doubtfull1799 in

i don’t remember having any invisible friends when i was a really little boy, i don’t know if such a thing actually exists, i’ve only ever seen it in movies?

of course it might have looked to others like i was talking to someone on occasions, but i’m sure it would have just been me talking to myself.

the thing is though, i got introduced to an invisible friend in my pre-teens, and i kept the relationship going well into adulthood.

Normalfulla

I find this subject very profound in some aspects .. many of us know if a person has an imaginary friend ,talks to them daily as though they are real ,also some who have lost loved ones and believe they are present watching over the person in question ,they will often "talk to them " as if they were really there ,this compounds a mental dilemma of the imagined friend who becomes real to them the more they entertain the notion of them being there literally ,

It may be very real for the person who thinks their "imaginary " friend is there but to me calls to mind the quotes you hear from deranged ones like "the devil himself told me to !"

What is real to someone may not necessarily be real !!