The JWs of the '30s and '40s would be horrified at the JWs now. Back then they risked prison and even death, now some JWs are even afraid to go to doors with "Beware of the dogs" signs. *sigh*
lilbluekitty
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Witnesses have gotten soft and spongy.
by Paralipomenon inthinking about witnesses in the past, when the witness work was banned, they went underground, continuing to meet and deliver tracts under cover of night.. all this due to their reasoning that they will obey cesar's law only when it doesn't conflict with god's commandments, such as "preach to all people".
now we see the watchtower telling it's membership to respect "no trespassing" or "no solicitating" messages, as well as condo bylaws that prohibit door to door visits.. watching them bend more and more to comply with cesar's law to give up preaching so that they don't get fines.
they've become more concerned with protecting their legal interests and money stockpile that the witness work is now more of a token activity to keep people busy.. one thing i don't know is, have they lightened up on phone witnesses with the introduction of the national do not call list?.
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I would like to hear your experiences with being SHUNNED
by jwfacts ini am going to put together a page of short experiences of how shunning has affected exjws.
you do not have to be disfellowshipped, even if you were shunned after being marked or after fading.
all comments are welcome, such as who shunned you, how long since family have spoken to you, what your situation is, why you are being shunned and how it has made you feel.
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lilbluekitty
The majority of my father's side of the family don't talk to me at all anymore, after my father sent that letter I posted a couple weeks ago. Because we live over 2,000 miles away from each other (most live in New England, I live in South TX) it's not usually too bad for me, except that they no longer reply to my texts and some have removed me on Facebook. I'm being fairly cautious with the few JWs on my mother's side, letting them know I don't want to be a JW anymore but not really telling them I now attend church and want to be baptized as a Christian soon. They do contact me less, mostly letting me be the one to contact them, but so far things are okay with us.
I honestly haven't seen or any JWs from my old congregation here in ages, or the one I attended 2 years ago, with the exception of the day a sister and her husband knocked loudly on the door while my husband and I were taking a nap, scaring us and then they gave my husband the latest magazines because I decided to hide out in my MIL's room. LOL. I hardly ever see field service groups lately, it's kind of strange.
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looky what they make the latest watchtower (public) say
by therevealer inthrough the new covenant, jehovah makes blessings.
available to many by means of a few.
the covenant are few, a mere 144,000. through.
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lilbluekitty
They basically make what Jesus did for us worthless by that paragraph. I'm disgusted.
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Christmas traditions
by tec ini thought it would be nice to start a thread with some of your favorite christmas traditions... especially for those who are just beginning to celebrate christmas.
we open a gift on christmas eve.
when i was a kid, it was always a new pair of pajamas.
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lilbluekitty
This is my first year celebrating Christmas for real. I've been around Christmas for 3 years I believe. My husband's family traditionally always go up to my husband's sister's house and everyone comes up there for all the usual Christmas traditions. She makes cookies, has at least one very large tree (though I hear last year, while I was away, there were at least 2 trees!), and TONS of presents because there are a lot of nieces and nephews. I did give gifts the first year I didn't do much else. This year I'm going all out. I sent cards, recieved cards, wrapped tons of presents, gave each person at least one item, more for some, hung up stockings, got my first tree which is very tiny but I love it, and so on.
Traditionally Christmas Eve my SIL has everyone sit in the living room and each child can open one present that night, then for the adults there's something like musical chairs only it's presents, basically each person is handed a generic present and you can either choose to open it or pass it, the fun being that you don't know what it is and could pass up something you would have liked to someone else, it involves a lot of shaking of the presents and trying to figure out what's inside. I love it!
Christmas morning we wake up as soon as we hear whoever is up first, this is generally my husband's youngest nephew. Then they wake up everyone else yelling "Merry Christmas!!" and we all gather in the living room in our PJs and open the presents, hug each other, and eat breakfast. Then there's church, which I used to skip out on but now I'm going to go, and even dress up, then there's a huge Christmas dinner. Woohoo! I can't wait for all of it!!!
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Has This Place Helped You To Come Out Or Stay Out Of The Organization?
by minimus ineverytime i read a page of topics, i can't help but accept that the witness religion is such a fraud.. keep up the good work in exposing the watchtower society!.
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lilbluekitty
Definitely helped, though it isn't the only thing that keeps me out, the gross lack of love shown to me by my JW family is what keeps me out the most.
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JW FAMOUS CLICHE SAYINGS
by strymeckirules inwhat saying made it all around the country?.
the ones that were passed around, word of mouth.. for example.
"donations basis proves jehovah is behind the work!".
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lilbluekitty
"make the truth your own"
"the light keeps on getting brighter"
"the end is so close i can feel it"
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As An EXJW Does Christmas Mean Anything To You?
by minimus ini've been thinking how correct the witnesses are regarding an aspect of xmas.
it is totally commercialized and it's big business and materialism.
having said that, i enjoy giving presents and recieving them.
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lilbluekitty
It means a lot to me and because it's only a couple days before my birthday, December is my favorite time of year. I love even *some* of the commercial aspects, just because I love decorations and all the pretty gifts that come out then. But I also believe the true meaning of Christmas, which is Christ. It's the day I'm going to celebrate my Savior being born on earth. I don't know when he was really born but it doesn't matter to me.
I'm NOT a big fan of Santa Claus and some of those non-Christian elements, though I LOOOVE Christmas trees!
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Not sure what to tell my 4 year old about Santa
by jwfacts inmy adorable little son is very excited about christmas.
i have not made a big thing about it, but he must have picked up the christmas spirit from what he is seeing in the shops and on tv.
he loves the music, and movies and all the decorations.
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lilbluekitty
If I had a child I'd do it one of two ways. I'd allow the child to think what he wants and discover later that Santa isn't real, or I would just tell him that Santa is kind of like Disney characters, he's only on TV but not say it in a mean way, just explain it's a story like Cinderella or something. When I was a kid I thought that stuff was real, (not Santa though) and when I got older and found out it was make-believe, I wasn't upset.
Basically as long as you don't tell him Santa is BAD it's probably fine, that messed me up thinking he was basically the same as the devil, that's what my parents told me. In reality he's just a story, that's all.
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Think this was from a JW?
by TweetieBird inhttp://gma.yahoo.com/mich-residents-receive-letter-calling-christmas-lights-pagan-194443043.html.
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tried to make it to where you can click on it but my mac won't let me..
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lilbluekitty
At first I thought it was but I squinted and it said something about Yeshua, JWs call him Jesus so I doubt it but it sure sounds like something they would do!
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Checking Bibles for "God's Name"
by sabastious ini had a ritual growing up every time we traveled to an assembly or convention.
in the hotel i would always take a look at the gideon bible's that were always stored in one of the drawers.
immediately upon finding it i would open up to psalms 83:18 to check if the bible had god's name within it.
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lilbluekitty
My dad (hardcore JW hypocrite) actually told me if Jehovah's name wasn't in a Bible, it wasn't inspired...um...ALL scripture is inspired of God and beneficial etc.??? He loves to put down the NIV, even though I really like it and own a lovely pink one with swirls on it.