Posts by Aleph

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REVISITING Awake October 1968 and the "THIS GENERATION" in association with OVERLAPPING GENERATION and THESE GENERATIONS

by Longlivetherenegades in

the former image was obtained from a topic in the humor and joke section of this platform and it seems to carry a underground information that is equally powerful.. since a food company had been producing a particular product for four generations since 1914, how come the wtbts publishing company are still producing for a one generation since 1914?.

awake october 1968 stated............ even if we presume that youngsters 15 years of age would be perceptive enough to realize the import of what happened in 1914, it would still make the youngest of "this generation" nearly 70 years old today(year 1968).

so the great majority of the generation to which jesus was referring has already passed away in death.

Aleph

Or was he only talking about the LAST generation that would see the end, so of course it would makes sense:"this generation wouldn't pass"....
OVERLAPPING GENERATION, is SIMPLY not in the Bible, just as Jesus mentioned "when you will see the fruit of the fig tree....", he was not talking about the seed of the fig tree that will be produced in next fig tree, or generation ....come on D. Splane !

Now learn this illustration from the fig tree: Just as soon as its young branch grows tender and sprouts its leaves, you know that summer is near.l 33 Likewise also you, when you see all these things, know that he is near at the doors.m 34 Truly I say to you that this generation will by no means pass away until all these things happen. 35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will by no means pass away.

As a matter of fact, "Better is the end of a matter than its beginning", Jesus saw the things from the perspective of it ends and its results...

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I'm not into conspiracy theories, but Google FEMA clergy response team. Would WT. throw the R&F under the bus to save it's own skin

by nowwhat? in

correct me if i'm wrong but about the same time this was activated was when the wt.

came out with the "we may receive instructions that may not seem practical from a human standpoint".

and it has been emphasized greatly regarding covid measures that "we must obey the superior authorities".

Aleph

Not necessary to go to the FEMA camp as you mentioned, but for example, ACTIVELY cooperate with the UN and the "beast" in regards of PEACE & SECURITY matters, so not to be bothered by them for a while....

&.

PS : FEMA camps exists and so the FEMA special coffins, but it was made in case of huge catastrophic event, earthquakes etc...There s no proof that was made in any other purpose (not a concentration camp purpose).

See : Watchtower and UN involvement in the past, actively present in UN discussion group with religions, etc....

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Disfellowshipped for NOT activating my camera on ZOOM meeting

by Aleph in

hey so i won't go too much into the details though there would be so much more to say....in a nutshell, you are repentant but not enough so we disfellowship you ....i asked, can you clarified this "not enough repentant" please ?as one of the reason of not being repentant : " you didn't put on your camera during zoom meetings !!!

" they yelled at me, like a bunch of wolves against a sheep....so :.

- no scriptural basis.- abuse of power.- my phone can't handle to have its camera on more than 20 minutes.then they yelled " jehovah does want you in the congregation" !like you are not welcome here....strangely to me, isaiah 1:18 and the story of the prodigal son tells a complete different story....well the whole bible is about love forgiveness and repentance !!

Aleph

Yes i was df for fornication but since i had not my camera on it was a "proof" i wasn't repentant.
Thank you for putting things correctly.

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Disfellowshipped for NOT activating my camera on ZOOM meeting

by Aleph in

hey so i won't go too much into the details though there would be so much more to say....in a nutshell, you are repentant but not enough so we disfellowship you ....i asked, can you clarified this "not enough repentant" please ?as one of the reason of not being repentant : " you didn't put on your camera during zoom meetings !!!

" they yelled at me, like a bunch of wolves against a sheep....so :.

- no scriptural basis.- abuse of power.- my phone can't handle to have its camera on more than 20 minutes.then they yelled " jehovah does want you in the congregation" !like you are not welcome here....strangely to me, isaiah 1:18 and the story of the prodigal son tells a complete different story....well the whole bible is about love forgiveness and repentance !!

Aleph

Hey

So i won't go too much into the details though there would be SO MUCH MORE to say....

In a nutshell, you are repentant but NOT ENOUGH so we disfellowship you ....
I asked, can you clarified this "NOT ENOUGH REPENTANT" please ?
As one of the reason of not being repentant : " You didn't put on your camera during zoom meetings !!!" they yelled at me, like a bunch of wolves against a sheep....

So :

- No scriptural basis.
- Abuse of power.
- My phone can't handle to have its camera on more than 20 minutes.

Then they yelled " JEHOVAH DOES WANT YOU IN THE CONGREGATION" !
Like you are not welcome here....

Strangely to me, Isaiah 1:18 and the story of the prodigal son tells a complete different story....well the whole Bible is about love forgiveness and repentance !!!

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Champagne !

by Aleph in

back in the time, in the 90s... after each convention, the co the do and my friend who was an hilarious pioneer were invited in the backstage.there as usual they exchange a couple jokes and while others were cleaning up the stadium, they were opening their bottle of champagne exchanging good jokes.so if one day you feel exhausted or need to cheer up, you know what to do right ?

Aleph

Back in the time, in the 90s...
After each convention, the CO the DO and my friend who was an hilarious pioneer were invited in the backstage.
There as usual they exchange a couple jokes and while others were cleaning up the stadium, they were opening their bottle of Champagne exchanging good jokes.
So if one day you feel exhausted or need to cheer up, you know what to do right ?

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BRANCH OVERSEER : "Apostates are GOOD people !"

by Aleph in

this is quite incredible.during his talk, the branch overseer, made a special talk dedicated to the apostates.. he clearly emphasis his point, "apostates used to be between us, really you can talk with apostates, those people are good, of course their point of vue is different than ours now but they are mostly very nice poeple, and you shouldn't be afraid to talk with them.

"though as usual, the reaction of the brothers was quite the same, impassive, i was very surprise by this statement.i cannot assume if this is just a one man step ahead towards the apostates, or really a change in their policies, this came from the mouth of a branch overseer.of course, for obvious reason, i won't give the name of the brother, which is famous, but only here in an central european country.i would have expected him to quote more scriptures, but he didn't, he could have use the one for jesus himself :"you should love your enemies", as apostates were really the "enemies" for the wtbs for such a long time, maybe now that the king of the north is awaken, apostates are not so bad after all ?

just wondering....

Aleph

This Org is worst than big Bro, sorry if i did say the minimum about that, but it s the truth.
I wished i had it recorded, but i didn't see this coming...

But yes, on a certain picture from all the Branches oversees in Warwick, you would see him.
The man is not a bad man, he s just a company man,he expressed his personal opinion, nothing official, I m afraid.

Of course, he is too high to be bothered, yes I should send him some whisky.

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My thoughts over "this Generation" as a Jew would understand it

by Aleph in

i saw the video over the word "generation" and how you david s explained it.one thing for sure, is david doesn't understands at all how hebrews sees and understands things.let me explain...middle asians from antiquities, and hebrews saw things, in a complete different way than europeans are perceiving times and events!we, as modern europeans, we see the future in front of us, past in our back, right ?....

for the jews it s the contrary.how come ?well, for a jew they think past is in front of them because they can see it.future is in their back, as they can't see it.same thing for a generation.generation are seen from the perspective of the people who lived but died until a certain point, not the contrary as europeans sees the generation from a date of birth.

now really you can have a complete understanding of this when the bible says :" the date of death worth more than the date of birth"....again, you can judge not from how a person was born, but from what he had done in his life, same will apply for a generation.also as the wt stated well that the things described by the "sign" of the parousia were chronological, and happening in a certain order, the verse that talks about the genea is located not directly in reference of the parousia, but in the text referring to the great tribulation.

Aleph

I saw the video over the word "generation" and how you David S explained it.
One thing for sure, is David doesn't understands at all how Hebrews sees and understands things.
Let me explain...
Middle Asians from antiquities, and Hebrews saw things, in a complete different way than Europeans are perceiving times and events!
We, as modern Europeans, we see the future in front of us, past in our back, right ?
.... for the Jews it s the contrary.
How come ?
Well, for a Jew they think past is in front of them because they can see it.
Future is in their back, as they can't see it.
Same thing for a generation.
Generation are seen from the perspective of the people who lived but died until a certain point, not the contrary as Europeans sees the generation from a date of birth.
Now really you can have a complete understanding of this when the Bible says :" the date of death worth more than the date of birth"....
Again, you can judge not from how a person was born, but from what he had done in his life, same will apply for a generation.
Also as the wt stated well that the things described by the "sign" of the parousia were chronological, and happening in a certain order, the verse that talks about the genea is located not directly in reference of the parousia, but in the text referring to the great tribulation. If you would have kept the same logic then it means those who will lived the great tribulation, will have known and understood what the sign was really about, and how intense things would become, as posteriori by living and experiencing this, just as a normal Hebrew could see and understand the things to come from what he will actually live.
As a matter of fact, 1st Christians who escaped and survived the events that took place in the 1st century and who would have believed in Jesus, would have a full understanding of it, by living it, just as you can taste a fruit, the fig by eating it, not by noticing it just suddenly appeared on the fig tree.
"By their fruits, you will recognize them", same simple thought here from Jesus, any child can understand that.

It s the same view from the Spirit has when He guided David to wrote :

“Sit at my right hand

Until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet.”

Even in Gen 1:1, this is not an human thing to start a story by telling the ends.. .
The perspective of the spirit, is not from JUST from its beginning when there was nothing, but by its plain fulfillment, like a cameraman filming the panorama of the whole CREATION, not only in the 1st day but as a whole in time also in space, with a focus on the results of all the beautiful creations from Elohim (The Great Creator) with the divine plan to accomplish the works of His hands, the physical Heavens with a special purpose towards the earth... who could weight how much efforts and energy was put in there just to accomplish this purpose of this very verse, if so much energy for the final touch of his finger, the humans. Now weight the love of God.
A.

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2019-2049

by Alex Bogdanov in

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"people who were born in 1914 will see the armageddon" i heard it so many times.. "alex you left!

you are making a mistake.

the armageddon is nearly here" i heard it so many times.. it is 2019. no sign of the end.. i can make the same post in 2029 and 2039 and 2049. sadly in 2049 there will be crazy jws telling me the end is tomorrow.

Aleph

2049 ?
Blade runner is back !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCcx85zbxz4

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When the pedophile is welcomed back while fornicators aren't

by Aleph in

i remember growing up in the truth in the 70s, then the 80s, i was quite young, full of hope, dreams and beliefs that it was a wonderful organization of jehovah's witnesses....soon we would discover the world is not sun shines and rainbows in the jws...for my brother, david, it was more or less the same, he was full of zeal pioneering.then one day, the truth exploded, the teacher much older than my bro, was unmasked, the circus began...elders came rushing in, things went swiftly, only one way, the abuser used the bible to justify sexual intercourse with my brother while he was only 14...and things lasted for many months....my brother left the truth, but the pedophile though disfellowshipped was welcomed back in less than 2 months !all the scandal was hidden, no one came back to bring any help to my brother, they simply ignore him like he was the one responsible of all, no comfort, no care, this is like this.i don't know why i m still in... somehow, i think i have enough, not because i have heard too much, but because i have seen with my own eyes, all the things that they do inside, the manipulation, the pressure... bible is pure, but this... this has nothing to do with the teaching of jesus.

they pretend they are pure and white, but really, they are just men, doing bad like anywhere else.

the worst part, they don't take care of the ones suffering, and they only makes things worse with their stupid policies..

Aleph

I remember growing up in the truth in the 70s, then the 80s, i was quite young, full of hope, dreams and beliefs that it was a wonderful organization of Jehovah's witnesses....
Soon we would discover the world is not sun shines and rainbows in the JWs...
For my brother, David, it was more or less the same, he was full of zeal pioneering.
Then one day, the truth exploded, the teacher much older than my bro, was unmasked, the circus began...
Elders came rushing in, things went swiftly, only one way, the abuser used the Bible to justify sexual intercourse with my brother while he was only 14...and things lasted for many months....
My Brother left the truth, but the pedophile though disfellowshipped was welcomed back in less than 2 months !
All the scandal was hidden, no one came back to bring any help to my brother, they simply ignore him like he was the one responsible of all, no comfort, no care, this is like this.
I don't know why i m still in... somehow, I think i have enough, not because i have heard too much, but because i have seen with my own eyes, all the things that they do inside, the manipulation, the pressure...

Bible is pure, but this... this has nothing to do with the teaching of Jesus. They pretend they are pure and white, but really, they are just men, doing bad like anywhere else. The worst part, they don't take care of the ones suffering, and they only makes things worse with their stupid policies.

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BRANCH OVERSEER : "Apostates are GOOD people !"

by Aleph in

this is quite incredible.during his talk, the branch overseer, made a special talk dedicated to the apostates.. he clearly emphasis his point, "apostates used to be between us, really you can talk with apostates, those people are good, of course their point of vue is different than ours now but they are mostly very nice poeple, and you shouldn't be afraid to talk with them.

"though as usual, the reaction of the brothers was quite the same, impassive, i was very surprise by this statement.i cannot assume if this is just a one man step ahead towards the apostates, or really a change in their policies, this came from the mouth of a branch overseer.of course, for obvious reason, i won't give the name of the brother, which is famous, but only here in an central european country.i would have expected him to quote more scriptures, but he didn't, he could have use the one for jesus himself :"you should love your enemies", as apostates were really the "enemies" for the wtbs for such a long time, maybe now that the king of the north is awaken, apostates are not so bad after all ?

just wondering....

Aleph

This is quite incredible.
During his talk, the Branch Overseer, made a special talk dedicated to the apostates.

He clearly emphasis his point, "Apostates used to be between us, really you can talk with apostates, those people are good, of course their point of vue is different than ours now but they are mostly very nice poeple, and you shouldn't be afraid to talk with them."
Though as usual, the reaction of the brothers was quite the same, impassive, I was very surprise by this statement.
I cannot assume if this is just a one man step ahead towards the apostates, or really a change in their policies, this came from the mouth of a Branch overseer.
Of course, for obvious reason, I won't give the name of the brother, which is famous, but only here in an central European country.
I would have expected him to quote more scriptures, but he didn't, he could have use the one for Jesus himself :
"You should LOVE your enemies", as apostates were really the "enemies" for the WTBS for such a long time, maybe now that the King of the North is awaken, Apostates are not so bad after all ? Just wondering...