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  ....and a new wrinkle

  by outsmartthesystem in

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  so i was giving my daughter a hug at bed time last night.

  she stands up at the foot of her bed and wraps her arms around my neck.

  she then asks why i don't serve jehovah anymore.

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  Dear Outsmart, The purpose of my previous post was to let you know that your wife might not intentionally be turning your daughter against you. However the WTBTS INTENTIONALLY wants to alienate believers from "apostates deserving of death". The Enemy is the Watchtower. Regardless what becomes of your marriage, you will both need to get along enough to parent your daughter. Pick your battles. Assume the problem is the Watchtower because it is.

  The good news is this: After my divorce with their father, my teenage children decided they preferred to be with their unbelieving father rather than me.(I still was an active JW) There is much good advice here. Don't dispare. When children are very young, everything is either black or white, good or bad. As they get older they can reason things out better.(especially with your help)
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  Advice needed please.

  by tenene in

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  i've been a lurker here for about a year and a half.

  i am a baptised jw(born-in).. i was a publisher in good standing until about last december when i stopped putting in fs time as well as attending meetings and conventions including this year's memorial.. i no longer believe in the teachings of the watchtower society.. about 3 weeks ago an elder and a ms from my cong came to ny house uninvited and told me they were just checking on me and wanted to find why i haven't been to the meetings for such a long time.

  they told me it was not an official visit, but sort of hinted to me that if i don't show up then i might be getting an official one soon.

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  Tenene, Welcome! There are numerous past threads that are devoted to advice on how to sucessfully fade. Go to the search button and call up the subject.

  The most important thing to remember is it is ALWAYS a bad idea to talk to the Elders. If they call don't answer. If they leave messages to call them-don't. If they drop by unexpectedly, don't answer the door. If someone else in your family answers the door say you are indisposed and refuse to talk to them. Period. Anything you say can and will be used against you later. The best armor is to STAY OUT OF RANGE. Eventually they will give up if you don't say or do anything publicly to draw attention to yourself or your not believing anymore. This includes facebook and other sites where you use your real name.

  I wish you sucess out of the stranglehold of the Watchtower.
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  2013 CA and SAD programs released. More Safegaurd your mind control stuff.

  by darthweef in

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  song no.

  1:30 song no.

  2:45 song no.

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  I'd love to see a title like "Safegaurd Children from Pedophiles". Of course, there is a slim chance of that.
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  ....and a new wrinkle

  by outsmartthesystem in

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  so i was giving my daughter a hug at bed time last night.

  she stands up at the foot of her bed and wraps her arms around my neck.

  she then asks why i don't serve jehovah anymore.

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  I would like to share a true story in my family to illistrate how much a small child can be affected by the meetings and Bible story book.

  One day I dropped both my toddlers off at K*****'s so I could enjoy a day of shopping. She was a wonderful young women who's mother was a former witness but who herself was never baptised. She babysat my 2 kids from infancy, and they loved her and so did I. Later I picked them up like usual and we drove off to go home. We barely get out of the driveway when my older child ONLY 3 1/2 YEARS OLD starts to cry with a passion. "What's wrong honey?" I asked. He says "K****** has a Christmas tree. Now she's going to DIE at Armageddon.!!! I don't want her to die"

  I was flabbergasted. Absolutely, no way did I, or anyone else I know, ever say anything like that to him. Yet..... he obviously got it from somewhere. My point is that kids pick up SO MUCH MORE than we realize at the time.
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  Are you an Apostate...?...or a Heretic...?

  by Balaamsass in

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  /jumpto bodycontent .

  look up heresy in wiktionary, the free dictionary.heresy is a religious act or opinion held to be in opposition or ardent violation of the stated doctrine of the christian church (particularly the holy roman or roman catholic church)or that of any church, creed, or religious system.

  " - wikapedia.

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  To me, the irony is that the WT$ used to write favorably about "Heretics" of the Catholic Church. Disagree with Catholicism=Praiseworthy. Disagree with the GB of Jehovah's Witnesses=mentally diseased Apostate deserving death.

  The GB teaches ideas, doctrines and policies now that would have been considered "Apostate" many years ago. It's now funny to me. I vote for

  the "Bullshit Concious Class"
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  Young Ex-JW siblings release song to radio inspired by their experience leaving the cult.

  by Azazel in

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  this is a must see for all ex-jws and those thinking of leaving.

  watch for the subtle clues in the video.

  lets get this get this out there.. .

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  Way to go kids! Thanks for posting AZ
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  Is Anthony Morris III a fortunate son?

  by hoser in

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  his vietnam experiences have been questioned on this forum and he stated on one of cedars videos that his father is a wealthy man.. .

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  Hoser, I can't stand A.Morris III but I loooove John Fogerty and the rest of CCR!
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  Seen on the ground at a relatives' house...

  by Jim_TX in

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  a couple of weeks ago, my wife and i visited her aunt on saturday.

  when we were leaving, i happened to glance down and spotted some 'trash' that had evidently fallen from the door and was down in and among the potted plants that share the porch space.. i instantly knew what it was from the 'look', and reached down and grabbed it as we were walking to our vehicle.. sure enuf, it was a 4-page small pamphlet... some sort of preaching words... (i didn't read them), and then on the back side was a stamped 'invitation' for the person to go to their district assembly the last week in july.. ummm... belton, tx is about 150 miles away from here.

  i'm so sure that someone would drive 150 miles to go to something that they just read about on a pamphlet stuck in their door.

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  @Jake m 2012, Wow, Coinyavitch, (sp?) what a blast from the past. He was my CO in the mid 70's. I worked with them in FS and they ate lunch at our house. Hubby and I were reg. pios. at that time so we were in their good graces. Still, I couldn't help but notice how SR they both were. I didn't like how I acted when I was around them.
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  DO YOU WANT A FUNERAL?

  by clarity in

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  i do not want a funeral.

  i especially do not want anyone standing before my family.

  telling them who i supposedly ... am!.

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  Funeral??? Hell NO!!! I plan on outliving all my friends and family. Chances are, there wiil be a big 100 birthday party at the rest home I'll be living in. Then I'll get so excited I keel over and die at the party. Even if I don't ,I'll get to say goodby to anyone who actually cares about me while I'm still alive
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  Did You Have A Lot Of Meetings With The Elders?

  by minimus in

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  we're you always in the back room with the elders?.

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  2 times in 55 years. 1st: Taken in the back room, told I could not "vacation pioneer"as it was called in 1970, UNLESS I would agree to wear dresses blow the bottom of my knees. I was 18 , married, my husband was not approached although a brother. I weighted 98lbs soaking wet and my skirts brushed the top of my knobby knees!

  2ond: 20 years later different cong different town. This time my offense was "speaking against glorious ones". I told my best JW friend in strictest confidence something I knew about the PO that stumbled me at the time. Of course I was an idiot for trusting anyone in the Borg. She told. Next thing I know I'm in a judicial meeting. (This time with my husband present.) BTW, the Elder who I supposedly slandered was my uncle! HE called the meeting trying to get me DFed.

  Turns out i knew what to do. I said the sister misunderstood me. I started to cry, said I was sorry for anything I said that gave the wrong impression. I concluded that I got the information from his wife. (my aunt) He admitted that SHE had told numerous people of his transgressions. Case closed.