Posts by 3rdgen

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What Many Have Still Not Learned Since Leaving the WT

by justmom in

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hello to you all this evening.

so many here have left the organization or been put out/disfellowshipped for so many unjust reasons.

losing family, friends, jobs, even sanity at times!.

3rdgen

Mouthy, You gave a wonderful answer to those who lack empathy for those grieving genuine loss. You have suffered more loss than anyone I know. You could have let it kill you or harden you into bitterness and hate. You didn't, and I applaud- ((((((MOUTHY))))))

I am too new in my exit of the WT$ to have decided definately about God, no God, or Agnostic. For now, I have decided not to rush- to decide not to decide. IMHO, what many have not learned since leaving the WT$ is humility, empathy, and common courtesy.

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Thanks to everyone on this forum!

by cedars in

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today is my first anniversary as a jwn member.

it's hard to believe that only a year has passed since i joined, but i feel that's a testament to how much i have been welcomed and made to feel like part of the furniture.. i would very much like to take this opportunity to thank everyone on the forum for the immense help and assistance i have received, particularly in my first few weeks/months of posting.

it truly was a lifeline at a very distressing time for me.

3rdgen

PS, A big hello to mrs Cedars.

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Thanks to everyone on this forum!

by cedars in

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today is my first anniversary as a jwn member.

it's hard to believe that only a year has passed since i joined, but i feel that's a testament to how much i have been welcomed and made to feel like part of the furniture.. i would very much like to take this opportunity to thank everyone on the forum for the immense help and assistance i have received, particularly in my first few weeks/months of posting.

it truly was a lifeline at a very distressing time for me.

3rdgen

Cedars, Congrats on your 1 year anniversary! You are a class act.

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....and a new wrinkle

by outsmartthesystem in

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so i was giving my daughter a hug at bed time last night.

she stands up at the foot of her bed and wraps her arms around my neck.

she then asks why i don't serve jehovah anymore.

3rdgen

Dear Outsmart, The purpose of my previous post was to let you know that your wife might not intentionally be turning your daughter against you. However the WTBTS INTENTIONALLY wants to alienate believers from "apostates deserving of death". The Enemy is the Watchtower. Regardless what becomes of your marriage, you will both need to get along enough to parent your daughter. Pick your battles. Assume the problem is the Watchtower because it is.

The good news is this: After my divorce with their father, my teenage children decided they preferred to be with their unbelieving father rather than me.(I still was an active JW) There is much good advice here. Don't dispare. When children are very young, everything is either black or white, good or bad. As they get older they can reason things out better.(especially with your help)

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Advice needed please.

by tenene in

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i've been a lurker here for about a year and a half.

i am a baptised jw(born-in).. i was a publisher in good standing until about last december when i stopped putting in fs time as well as attending meetings and conventions including this year's memorial.. i no longer believe in the teachings of the watchtower society.. about 3 weeks ago an elder and a ms from my cong came to ny house uninvited and told me they were just checking on me and wanted to find why i haven't been to the meetings for such a long time.

they told me it was not an official visit, but sort of hinted to me that if i don't show up then i might be getting an official one soon.

3rdgen

Tenene, Welcome! There are numerous past threads that are devoted to advice on how to sucessfully fade. Go to the search button and call up the subject.

The most important thing to remember is it is ALWAYS a bad idea to talk to the Elders. If they call don't answer. If they leave messages to call them-don't. If they drop by unexpectedly, don't answer the door. If someone else in your family answers the door say you are indisposed and refuse to talk to them. Period. Anything you say can and will be used against you later. The best armor is to STAY OUT OF RANGE. Eventually they will give up if you don't say or do anything publicly to draw attention to yourself or your not believing anymore. This includes facebook and other sites where you use your real name.

I wish you sucess out of the stranglehold of the Watchtower.

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2013 CA and SAD programs released. More Safegaurd your mind control stuff.

by darthweef in

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song no.

1:30 song no.

2:45 song no.

3rdgen

I'd love to see a title like "Safegaurd Children from Pedophiles". Of course, there is a slim chance of that.

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....and a new wrinkle

by outsmartthesystem in

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friends

so i was giving my daughter a hug at bed time last night.

she stands up at the foot of her bed and wraps her arms around my neck.

she then asks why i don't serve jehovah anymore.

3rdgen

I would like to share a true story in my family to illistrate how much a small child can be affected by the meetings and Bible story book.

One day I dropped both my toddlers off at K*****'s so I could enjoy a day of shopping. She was a wonderful young women who's mother was a former witness but who herself was never baptised. She babysat my 2 kids from infancy, and they loved her and so did I. Later I picked them up like usual and we drove off to go home. We barely get out of the driveway when my older child ONLY 3 1/2 YEARS OLD starts to cry with a passion. "What's wrong honey?" I asked. He says "K****** has a Christmas tree. Now she's going to DIE at Armageddon.!!! I don't want her to die"

I was flabbergasted. Absolutely, no way did I, or anyone else I know, ever say anything like that to him. Yet..... he obviously got it from somewhere. My point is that kids pick up SO MUCH MORE than we realize at the time.

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Are you an Apostate...?...or a Heretic...?

by Balaamsass in

/jumpto bodycontent .

look up heresy in wiktionary, the free dictionary.heresy is a religious act or opinion held to be in opposition or ardent violation of the stated doctrine of the christian church (particularly the holy roman or roman catholic church)or that of any church, creed, or religious system.

" - wikapedia.

3rdgen

To me, the irony is that the WT$ used to write favorably about "Heretics" of the Catholic Church. Disagree with Catholicism=Praiseworthy. Disagree with the GB of Jehovah's Witnesses=mentally diseased Apostate deserving death.

The GB teaches ideas, doctrines and policies now that would have been considered "Apostate" many years ago. It's now funny to me. I vote for

the "Bullshit Concious Class"

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