Posts by 3rdgen

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Elders answer questions about the changes of the blood ban

by opusdei1972 in

some days ago two elders visited my sister because she has not been attending the meetings more than one year.

this time she prepared notes containing watchtower past teachings about the blood ban so as to ask them for those changes, and it seems that the elders were also prepared for her past questions.

for instance she showed them that "albumin" was considered "under scriptural ban" in 1956 (read the page 20 of awake, september 8).

3rdgen

ADCMS, it would be fun to speculate which fornication fraction is forgivable wouldn't it?

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What is the Watchtower's(R) Objective with the APATHY TROLLEY(CART)?

by punkofnice in

i wefer to my pwevious fred http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/280829/2/i-saw-a-trolley-cart-to-you-cousins-in-the-u-s-a.

if the wbt$ is losing money and drones then why so much apathy surrounding the trolley/cart?.

why are they not being more pro-active with this 'urgent, never to be repeated work(tm)?'.

I think using the carts is a win win for the WTBT$ because as has been said, it costs them zilch, gives free advertizing to JW.org, and saves them printing costs. This method is much cheaper for the dub too. Imagine how much gas is saved not having to drive all over the place to witness and how much easier it becomes to pioneer.The WTBT$ biggest problem is retention. Let's face it- people like us are waking up and leaving. Their goal is to make the religion more palatable and doable in order to keep the breeders. They don't need old people, they're a drain. They don't need converts who usually are poor and often mental. They need OFFSPRING who stay in and reproduce. When I was still in I would have preferred the carts WAYYYYYYY more than d t d and would have been HONORED to be chosen to do it and gladly paid for one. Remember a happier Jdub is a more GENEROUS dub more willing to DONATE. (big fat win for WTBT$)

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Boiling mad-need to vent!

by 3rdgen in

i have had to remove my rant because hubby doesn't want the jw realatives to retaliate again..

3rdgen

Hi jhine, No, they are't scared at all nor should they be. They are members with all the priveledges who don't post. There is no way to know their user names. Anyone can be undercover if they don't reveal anything about themselves. As far as I'm concerned meh. I have absolutely no interest in outing anyone-even the hypocrits. The other factor in play with our JW families is this : these cousins are all 3rd and 4th gen dubs who can and do skillfully live their own form of the religion. They never bought into the end is coming tomorrow or made the slightest sacrifice to "further kingdom interests. They have ignored most all of the WTBT$ council on everthing from R movies to lavish parties-you name it. How do they get away with it? The answer is simple. They SHUT UP. They only associate with those who are smart enough to stay UNDER the radar. Also, and this is a biggie, they spread the wealth. They hire JW's, donate generously, regularly work at quick builds, and are big believers of the GREEN HANDSHAKE. They,their husbands, fathers and grandfathers are all in positions of oversight. They carefully protect each other. They are and always have been THE IN CROWD. To think I was once somewhat like them makes me hang my head in shame.

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Just another thank you to Simon and his wife for this forum

by nonjwspouse in

this site , the people posting, and the ability to connect with them this way has really helped me in such a huge way i can't even express.. thank you for all your time, hard work, and kind efforts to keep this open and safe for all that come in here.. .

3rdgen

Count me in! This forum not only gave me the info I needed when I needed it but connections to real live people to meet and trade experiences and history with who I now count as true friends. Priceless! Many thanks to Simon and the mods.

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2014-06-01 Coordinator of the body of elders ---NEWS BOE---

by WatchTower87 in

instruction: press the 'skip ad' button top right, you should then see the download screen more easily.

no virus ;-).

pdf : http://adf.ly/pkuhp.

3rdgen

Hello Rosesinbloom, I encourage you to keep reading here and elsewhere to determine if or when this group was ever selected by God. (thus becoming His people). If so then when? WHAT YEAR were they accurately teaching the truth? If they were in the past then why did they change? If they weren't, why would the holy spirit impart false information needing to be continually corrected? Or have you been fooled for many years like I was?

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How old were you when you left the Watchtower - SURVEY

by usualusername in

jw
friends

i believe that the older you are the harder it is to leave the watchtower.. .

i am attempting to get a list of ages people learnt the "truth" and what age they left.. .

uun.

3rdgen

This is such an interesting thread. It's looking to me like it isn't as relavent how old a person was when he/she left but rather how long ago they left. The more crazy the cult has become and the more available the info is to the masses (internet etc.) the more are leaving. Hubby and I are both 3rd gen baptized at 13 and 12 respectively in the 60's. We didn't leave until discovering TTaTT in the last couple of years. We were almost 60. We are the ONLY ones in our families who have left. Either they never joined in the first place (distant cousins) or are still in or dead. FYI, we are no longer invited to family reunions.

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Boiling mad-need to vent!

by 3rdgen in

i have had to remove my rant because hubby doesn't want the jw realatives to retaliate again..

3rdgen

Hey, twice shy, What happened today? sorry I was so busy talking I missed it.

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Boiling mad-need to vent!

by 3rdgen in

i have had to remove my rant because hubby doesn't want the jw realatives to retaliate again..

3rdgen

Hortensia, Hi! Actually, hubby's family that I know are on this forum joined long before we did. One cousin admitted to him that they had lots of questions and doubts and joined Jwn. At the time we thought this cousin had "Apostate" leanings and shrugged it off. Later when an innocent question about the Menlo Park KH situation led us to this site -we were out within 2 weeks. Yet the family reads here regularly and still believes (or so they say) and try to make trouble for us. Go figure. The truth is they don't want to give up the statis of being in a family dynasty of Borgians. Kinda like being King of the shit pile.

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I want to know. Don't you?

by Old Goat in

some of you are probably a bit tired of me promoting these history books, but im doing it again.

1. nelson barbour: the millenniums forgotten prophet.

de vienne is not.

3rdgen

Welcome Stirred, it seems we have a lot in common. I am 3rdgen on both parents sides and was just shy of 60 when I woke up. Have you told your story yet?

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Detroit Style Ballroom Dancing

by KateWild in

trying to make rcs less of a snorefest.

not exactly award winning either, but worth a laugh.

kate xx.

3rdgen

Lois, Louie Louie, really? Nas tay! We danced a lot to Fogarty of CCR and slow danced to some Neil Young and Beach Boys. Surfer Girl still gets me. Hey! THAT was the time of my life!