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  Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"

  by breakfast of champions in

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  this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.

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  tootired2care, You may be right.
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  Marriage is done

  by cognac in

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  its been done for a long time.

  relieved with the idea of finally being free without the fight.

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  Cognac, while i'm never happy when a marriage ends, I truly know from experience that when children are involved, sooner is better than later. I wish you and your little ones the very best.
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  Why don't parents of an abused child go straight to police, why go to an elder first??

  by FeelingFree in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i hope i don't come across as judgemental but having read a lot on the current child abuse cases and the different threads on here, i am left wondering why on earth a parent of an abuse victim would go to an elder with the problem first and not straight to police?.

  as a parent myself i know that if anything like that happend to my child (this applies to when i was still an active jw as well as now) i would not hesitate in going to the authorities as soon as i found out, it wouldn't of crossed mine or my husbands mind to go to an elder.

  maybe after we had reported it but definitely never as the first port of call.

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  Gregor, wow, what a bold pervert to go after Elders kids! Good for you for going to the authorities. The irony of YOU being the bad guy for reporting. How pathetic that JW's are taught that Jehovah is so weak that he has no ability to protect his all important name, so they shoot the messenger who dares mention something rotten in .Org land.
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  The Day Armageddon Came

  by Londo111 in

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  2. experiences

  my grandfather only had a third grade education and knew little about the bible when jws called on him.

  he was a different breed of jw than those of modern times.

  he truly cared about people and would give them the shirt off his back.

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  Pete that is a sad story.
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  Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"

  by breakfast of champions in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.

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  The lost defamation lawsuits caused the WBT$ to impliment the infamous "dissociated themselves" action. They did it over the military origionally. Now they do it for many things like Blood transfusions, celebrating holidays, not showing up for JC etc. This way they can argue in court that the person was warned and they made the informed decision not to comply, therefore they are in effect, willfuly accepting the consequences of quitting the organization. I don't agree but that is the argument and THEY make the rules.
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  Why don't parents of an abused child go straight to police, why go to an elder first??

  by FeelingFree in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i hope i don't come across as judgemental but having read a lot on the current child abuse cases and the different threads on here, i am left wondering why on earth a parent of an abuse victim would go to an elder with the problem first and not straight to police?.

  as a parent myself i know that if anything like that happend to my child (this applies to when i was still an active jw as well as now) i would not hesitate in going to the authorities as soon as i found out, it wouldn't of crossed mine or my husbands mind to go to an elder.

  maybe after we had reported it but definitely never as the first port of call.

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  MissFit I am so sorry for what you and your family have suffered. I hope you have a measure of peace now. People who ask why don't victims come forward are seldom victims. Predators often single out those who seem shy or diadvantaged in some way then terrify and shame them into not telling. I'm so tired of people blaming victims/survivors.
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  This is Really Getting Scary!!! PLEASE LOOK!!

  by NoMoreHustle in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  stupid me does not know how to copy paste pics from instagram site.

  nmh.

  http://instagram.com/p/vbu5_xhiam/.

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  "We're Jeee hooo vaaahs Wit ness es, the car toooons speeeek for us"
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  Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"

  by breakfast of champions in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.

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  I was discussing the possibility of DFing inactive ones with Hubby and he reminded me how the Society handled the NU lite of DFing smokers in the 70's. They made an announcement that smokers had 6 months to quit, then if they didn't they were DFed. They might give the inactive 6 months to come back and if they don't......OUT!
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  NOT on JW.ORG: A.P. and International Press break stories about rampant child abuse by Jehovah's Witnesses MINISTERS and Watchtower Bible and Tract Society Cover-ups.

  by Balaamsass2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  $13.5m award in jehovah's witnesses molest caseby associated press.

  published: 21:45 est, 31 october 2014 | updated: 21:45 est, 31 october 2014. .

  san diego (ap) the jehovah's witnesses were ordered to pay $13.5 million to a southern california man who said he was molested as a child by a church member.. a san diego judge ruled wednesday that the church's governing body covered up years of sexual abuse by a member who later became an elder.. superior judge joan lewis said actions of the watchtower bible and tract society of new york were "reprehensible and reckless," u-t san diego reported friday (http://bit.ly/1uf519r ).. jose lopez, who was awarded the money, sued the group, alleging that he was molested in 1986 at age 7 by a member of the spanish congregation in the linda vista area of san diego.. lopez said the elders suggested gonzalo campos as his bible teacher even though they knew he had molested at least one other boy, the suit contended.

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  BOTR, To imply that the lawsuits don't necessarily have merrit is unfair. What JW parent would sue a "brother" knowing that to do so means automatic DFing? They loose any and all standing in the congregation and often the support of their own families. The people who bring these suits are looking for CHANGE IN Watchtower POLICY as much as compenation.
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  Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"

  by breakfast of champions in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.

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  LG, I thought about that too, epecially the ones who faded over 10 years ago. Likely their cards aren't even in the files anymore. So who knows? It's just a thought.