Posts by 3rdgen

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ABCNews Nightline: Segment on JW absuse cases here......

by WingCommander in

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friends

here is the segment on the conti abuse case in california and jehovah's witness's response as reported on by the abcnews nightline broadcast which was shown early this morning.

it really displays some absolutely shocking behavior from not only her abuser and his (supportive) wife, but also the jw attorneys and elders via video.

i am just blown away by the audacity displayed by these monsters.. we can now understand why governing body member stephen lett slipped in his comments a couple of weeks ago about "untrue reports of child abuse" in one of his talks which can viewed on the cult's website.

3rdgen

Hubby has spent all morning sharing this powerful story by tweeting (twitter) and face book in order to increase SEO. He originally started his FB account for business and over the years grew it to 5,000 "friends".

The feedback on the PBS story was amazing. This ABC story is already causing a stir. People who have left or were DFed by WTBTS sometimes feel bad about themselves. One said, "And I thought I was bad because I smoked but THEY protect pedophiles??!!" Several others have told us about their sexual abuse by elders that they were previously too ashamed to reveal. They are sharing these reports on their FB pages as well.

I am glad the report stated that the Watchtower organization is very wealthy. Something many might not realize.

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Groanfest. Share your daftest jokes .

by jhine in

lots of serious stuff being discussed on site .

i thought!it would be nice to make each other groan/ smile for a change .please share your corniest ,punniest , or daftest joke .. i will start with this shocker , borrowed from tim vine .. vandalism in a multi story carpark ....... ...................................,............................ wrong on sooo many levels !.

come on now share yours.

3rdgen

Giordano, I wish I could double like your post! I literally am laughing out loud. :)

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IMPORTANT NEWS: ABC News' Nightline will air a segment about the Watchtower (JWs) Wednesday morning at 12:35 a.m. EST

by AndersonsInfo in

important news:.

here in the united states, on wednesday morning, march 11th at 12:35 a.m., est, barring any breaking news the day before, the program, nightline, will air as their lead story a 9-minute segment about the watchtower (jehovah's witnesses).

the program is 30 minutes long and this segment is only one part of the show.

3rdgen

Barbara

Thanks so much for letting us know. Your hard work and perseverance is paying off!

Hubby and I shared the story that aired on PBS a few weeks ago with some inactive JW's who are still mentally "in". Those who were brave enough to watch it had a strong positive reaction. Two even told hubby about their OWN sexual abuse by elders when they were young. (both elders are now dead) One in turn addressed her story and the mishandling of sexual child abuse by the WTBTS publicly on FB.

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Behold the face of indoctrination! My moms guilt tripping letter to me.

by BU2B in

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friends

i wish i knew what it was like to have an unconditionally loving mother.

i know she loves me and cares about me, but only within her narrow wt spectrum.

if i do not meet her narrow expectations, i am a failure to her.

3rdgen

DOC, We used your exact dialogue with my MIL when she would harp on us. It always left her speechless when we would end with: "So then, who would you be loyal to in that case? The organization or Jehovah?

It had a positive effect on her to the point that she stopped regularly attending meetings and FS.

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Behold the face of indoctrination! My moms guilt tripping letter to me.

by BU2B in

jw
friends

i wish i knew what it was like to have an unconditionally loving mother.

i know she loves me and cares about me, but only within her narrow wt spectrum.

if i do not meet her narrow expectations, i am a failure to her.

3rdgen

BU2B, Sorry you are another born in who only knows conditional love from his parents. I am one as well. My father died when I was still in high school. My mother then took put downs and guilt trips to an art form. She hardly spoke to her only grandchildren simply because they didn't measure up to HER standards.

I woke up after she developed dementia and had to be placed in a rest home. She is in her 90's and still mean as ever, actually worse, now she has become violent. Almost every night I have a nightmare that she is still living with us. The religion is toxic and it's people are often poisoned by it.

Millie, very good post I thoroughly relate.

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You will never grow old in this current system of things... - Awake, May 22, 1969 p. 15

by cappytan in

check this out.

got this bound volume from my dad.. .

3rdgen

Well said Magnum.

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You will never grow old in this current system of things... - Awake, May 22, 1969 p. 15

by cappytan in

check this out.

got this bound volume from my dad.. .

3rdgen

steve2, I agree with you 100%

Believe me, I claim WILLFUL ignorance as well as a measure of selfishness wanting to live in paradise. There is blame to go around and around.

The reason I made my post is I don't think people who believed what was said in that 1969 article were/are necessarily stupid. Our natural intelligence was not fostered or rewarded. We were directed to be "sheep like" as the gold standard for faithfulness. And the pressure from family? INTENSE As I was reading that article my much older brother was being shunned and disinherited by the family simply for not getting baptized!

All that being said I am mad at myself for being too stubborn and lazy to research my own religion as an adult.

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Anyone else feeling de-sheeped?

by Slave4_38y in

i've never felt sheepish but the more i learn ttatt, i've been mentally de-sheeped.. .

3rdgen

Yup,

de programmed

de sheeped

de lighted :)

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You will never grow old in this current system of things... - Awake, May 22, 1969 p. 15

by cappytan in

check this out.

got this bound volume from my dad.. .

3rdgen

daringhart13,

Of course, a lot of us feel stupid for believing that lie but we were born to parents and grandparents who "inculcated/mentally regulated" our minds from birth. I and many others trusted our parents to have our best interests at heart. Besides, we have learned the effects that b.i.t.e. mind control has on people.

Something else to consider about that time: 1963 JFK was assassinated, The Vietnam War was raging and we were seeing the bloodbath play out in living color in magazines and television. By the end of the 60's Civil rights, Watts riots, Malcomb X, MLK and RFK ALL assassinated over and over again in front of our eyes in the news programs every night on TV. Add to that the HUGE growth in the borg which seemed to fulfill the prophesy that "ten men will take hold of the skirt of a Jew". It seemed to make sense at the time.

So no, I won't accept that I was that stupid. I was lied to.

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You will never grow old in this current system of things... - Awake, May 22, 1969 p. 15

by cappytan in

check this out.

got this bound volume from my dad.. .

3rdgen

I was 17 when that article came out so of course I remember it and the climate in the entire organization vividly.

To me, the issue is not so much that they were dead wrong (thus false prophets) as the CONSEQUENCES to those who were fed this spoiled spiritual food. We made life's most important decisions based on the belief that the world would POSITIVELY end in 6 years or less. Now take gullible adults with their impressionable children and imagine the dumb shit JW's did which to this day is negatively affecting our lives.

It's easy for younger dubs to pass it off as "old light" Honest older ones know better.