If God inspired the Bible, why didn't he prevent confusion as to exactly what the message is. Why would he allow passages or books to be included that don't belong?
Posts by 3rdgen
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20Paul did not belittle women
by Doug Mason ini note the recent post that quoted 1 timothy 2:11-12 and colossians 1:23 which place women at a level that is lower to men.
the poster accused paul of this mysoginy, but that is not correct.. 1 timothy, 2 timothy, titus, colossians, ephesians and hebrews were written after paul's death.. paul was not a mysoginist; he made full use of women in leadership roles.
he wrote that in god's sight there is neither male nor female, for all are one in god's sight.. doug.
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Wife is Awake
by freemindfade infollowing the news of stuckinarut2, over the past few months my wife has completely mentally woken up.
i've been meaning to post but haven't had the time.
i saw stuckins post and i figured i'd add my news too.
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3rdgen
As a wife who was helped to start waking up by her husband, I agree that a JW usually has to become angry about something/s in order to even THINK about hearing/reading anything critical of the borg. Finding the trigger is the key.
All my life I had seen and experienced unloving and unjust behavior by elders/servants but it wasn't until OTHER close family members were terribly mistreated that my blood started to boil enough to take an honest look at my religion. Hubby waited patiently and asked me viewpoint questions rather than TELL me facts.
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Wife is Awake
by freemindfade infollowing the news of stuckinarut2, over the past few months my wife has completely mentally woken up.
i've been meaning to post but haven't had the time.
i saw stuckins post and i figured i'd add my news too.
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3rdgen
Freemind, What wonderful news! Both you and Stuck are reaping the rewards of your patience. It is also a testament to your wives humility. Proud people seldom can admit they were fooled. Cheers!!!
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baptised nearly 51 years
by Phoebe inbeen reading this site for awhile now.
i have had a long and often tragic life as a jw.
my story is so long because i'm pretty old :) i feel sad i've been locked in fear and guilt for my entire life.
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3rdgen
Welcome, Phoebe! Your story moved me so much. Like you, I was "born in". I was baptized a few days after I turned 12. (Jan.1964 ) My family on both sides were part of this toxic organization since about 1900
My father was a "Colporter", a "Special Pioneer", a "Congregation Servant" (PO/COBE before the elder arrangement) and an abusive alcoholic. Like you, my first memory is being terrified, In my case, I was about 3 yo, uncontrollably sobbing during the dark car ride home from the KH where I had wiggled in my seat. My father had pointed his finger at me and whispered you're going to "get it" when we get home! I knew the beating with his belt that awaited me. My mother was silent as he would shout, "hush up or the beating will be worse". I also remember crouching in my room praying for Jehovah to help me when the fighting between my parents was unbearable.
It's not that other unfortunate children haven't experienced these difficulties, it's that this horrible home life is compounded by having to be JW in school. The weirdo who isn't allowed to be like the other kids because GOD HATES everybody and everything that isn't JW. A child should not have to be afraid of abuse and abandonment. I too, have PTSD. Isn't it ironic that an organization which attracts/causes so much pathology strongly discourages therapy? What are they afraid we will discover? Could it be they want us to remain terrified, compliant, and gullible?
Congratulations on your hubby and children being out. At least you don't have them shunning you! Congratulations too, on finding this site. I know the people and ideas here will be of great support and comfort to you. Keep reading, posting, and be assured of our love.
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Mom died, How and When I found out
by 3rdgen inhi friends,.
it's been awhile since i've been talkative.
thought i'd give you an account of my latest family dysfunction.. a brief backstory is that i am an only child whose parents were born in jw's.
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Doc, Thanks for your kind thoughts. I am glad to be part of this family for so many reasons. You are one of the many people I would love to meet and "adopt" as replacement family.
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Mom died, How and When I found out
by 3rdgen inhi friends,.
it's been awhile since i've been talkative.
thought i'd give you an account of my latest family dysfunction.. a brief backstory is that i am an only child whose parents were born in jw's.
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LV101, "I feel for the caregivers dealing with her" No kidding! We got more than one frantic message from the rest home saying the nurses were in tears after dealing with my mom. They ended up kicking her out to a tougher place. Thanks for your sympathy, you have mine. Hugs
FLIPPER Thanks for your input. After meeting your dad (even though he was on his best behavior) I could recognize the JW arrogance in him. Sorry you can relate to my story. I haven't seen or heard from anyone in my family in over 8 years except my daughter and the lame "your mom died" message left from my aunt.
IF they couldn't bother telling me when and where they were having mom's JW informercial/memorial then I couldn't bother to attend. So glad your mom's was better.
DISSE"D LADY2, "You cannot have a proper parent/child relationship with robots." SOOOO TRUE!! Sorry you know how I feel. Hugs back to you.
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December 31, 2016 BOE Re: 2017 Annual Meeting and Warwick/Wallkill Dedication Program
by wifibandit indecember 31, 2016 to all congregations in the united states branch territory re: 2017 annual meeting and warwick/wallkill dedication program.
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3rdgen
Sir 82, Obviously this won't be your first rodeo. :)
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Mom died, How and When I found out
by 3rdgen inhi friends,.
it's been awhile since i've been talkative.
thought i'd give you an account of my latest family dysfunction.. a brief backstory is that i am an only child whose parents were born in jw's.
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3rdgen
To everyone: Thank you ALL so much for your kind thoughts and wishes. You really helped lift my spirits. Learning TTATT and losing friends and family changes our lives and can be painful yet, in the end, we are free to live life the way that works for us. FREE at last!!! CHEERS!!!!!
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Mom died, How and When I found out
by 3rdgen inhi friends,.
it's been awhile since i've been talkative.
thought i'd give you an account of my latest family dysfunction.. a brief backstory is that i am an only child whose parents were born in jw's.
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3rdgen
Simon, Thank you for your comment. I think it's the age- old question of nature or nurture regarding selfish mean people. IMHO Both play a part of who we become as adults. In any case, Watchtower attracts and accepts these people and teaches them that they are "A people for special possession" which tends to inflate their egos even more. Add to that, if they actually HAVE sacrificed a lot and given tons of money and time to WTBT$, like my parents did, over time, they get self-rightous. They look at children when young as being a hindrance to their "work" and when grown they look down on the child that they think doesn't sacrifice as much as they did.
Lois, Hey girl, Thanks for your lovely words. Big hugs to you too.
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Mexico branch......Now closing!!!
by krismalone ina circuit overseer friend of mine serving in latin america called me today to say hi.
i asked him what's new and he dropped the news that they have received notification that the branch in mexico will be closing!!
this branch also called the central american branch (although located in mexico) oversees all of mexico's 800,000+ publishers plus all 7 countries of central america of over 100,000 publishers.
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3rdgen
HUUUUUUUGE Hope it happens Soooooon.