Wish I could too. Will be thinkin' of y'all.
Posts by 3rdgen
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10Coffee in Detroit today!
by serenitynow! inhi, i'm trying to get my detroit meetup group going again.
we will be meeting at the java hutt 165 west nine mile road in ferndale, mi today february 25th at 2pm.
i'll be wearing red and black.. if you're in the area, come on out and join us!.
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How many people did you bring into the borg?
by jam indo not count family members.
how long did it.
take to bring in each sheep, are they still in?.
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3rdgen
FS, You should start a thread asking: How many people have you helped OUT of the Borg? BTW, you have helped me too.
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NEW TO JWN and Lovin it!! A Little about me
by Zordino inhello all, i've been on this site for a few weeks (reading for longer) and i have to say this site has helped me a great deal.
i see from reading all the posts that many many people share my views on the whole jw thing and i'm so glad i can express myself without getting into problems with getting reported to the elders or something.
i am currently in my late 30's happily married to a jaydub with 2 kids.
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3rdgen
Welcome Zordino! I am a fellow 8 dayer. I fried and froze with die hard parents. My dad always had a cafeteria assignment so we arrived one to two weeks early and stayed a week later most times. I can't believe I didn't leave when I could!
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Why should we hold other people responsible for what child sexual abusers do?
by Lady Lee ini have been thinking a lot about my cousin who was sexually abused in my mothers home.
i am still angry.
so i had to ask myself, why am i more angry at her than i am at him?
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3rdgen
Lady Lee, I couldn't agree more! The law on dogs is that if the owner becomes AWARE that their dog is aggressive and subsiquently it bites someone the penaltys are much more severe than if the bite comes out of the blue. What rational owner would KEEP a vicious dog let alone let it near children???? Yet this has happened in your family and in the Borg with pedophiles!!!!
You have every right to be angry. So very sorry for your pain. (((((((((hugs)))))))))
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Video: Take a look at N. H. Knorr's elevator to his office.
by freetosee inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb2jsi_abv0&feature=related.
this wt video really shows the hierarchy within the wts.
watch the body language!
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3rdgen
Wow this brought back a mixed bag of memories for me. 1st memory: Being forced as a toddler to sit quiet and still through every second of this film..............or else!!! 2ond: Waiting patiently for the cheeta to appear then crying that it didn't. (different film) 3rd: Watching my dad running the film with pride. Over.... and...over and.....over. ugh!
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The gossip card - a tool for control among elders?
by cedars ini was having a few flashbacks today to my time as a die-hard publisher, both when i was "reaching out" for the transition from servant to elder, and from my time as an elder.
both of those positions bring with them an often unsavoury insight into the habits and methods of elders when it comes to controlling the congregation, particularly those in higher levels of congregational responsibility whose methods aren't always popular or appreciated.. it struck me as inappropriate at the time that the "gossip card" was brandished by certain elders all too readily, especially if it was an unpopular elder who had a bad reputation for making people's lives miserable.
the elder would speak in a sombre tone about the seriousness of people gossiping about him, and how this urgently needed to be brought to an end - with stern words to be meted out to anyone "caught in the act".
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3rdgen
Londo, I agree that there was definately a conflict of interest in my case. This same elder/relative had previously presided over a comittee that dfed my 1st husband. Of course, he should have reqused himself. both times-but didn't and there was nothing we could do about it except move-which we did.
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How many people did you bring into the borg?
by jam indo not count family members.
how long did it.
take to bring in each sheep, are they still in?.
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3rdgen
To answer how long did it take? Back in the day, the "Truth" book made it fast and easy. They all were in from 1st contact to babtism in between 6 to 9 months. Thankfully, those days are long gone.
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How many people did you bring into the borg?
by jam indo not count family members.
how long did it.
take to bring in each sheep, are they still in?.
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3rdgen
4 not counting my family. The 1st was baptized in 1968 when i was only 16. The next was a couple who were baptized in 1973. The next was baptized in 1974. All but one left after 1975 came and went. I should have followed them out the door. Instead, I stayed until a few months ago. So other than my children, I had a dry spell of 36 years!
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The gossip card - a tool for control among elders?
by cedars ini was having a few flashbacks today to my time as a die-hard publisher, both when i was "reaching out" for the transition from servant to elder, and from my time as an elder.
both of those positions bring with them an often unsavoury insight into the habits and methods of elders when it comes to controlling the congregation, particularly those in higher levels of congregational responsibility whose methods aren't always popular or appreciated.. it struck me as inappropriate at the time that the "gossip card" was brandished by certain elders all too readily, especially if it was an unpopular elder who had a bad reputation for making people's lives miserable.
the elder would speak in a sombre tone about the seriousness of people gossiping about him, and how this urgently needed to be brought to an end - with stern words to be meted out to anyone "caught in the act".
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3rdgen
I can speak to this personally. At one time I was in a cong where a close realative of mine was the PO. He ran the hall like a Natzi.He had said and done things that had many (including myself) very discouraged. I confided some things to my best friendin strictest confidence. She thought these things were so outragous that she decided (without telling me), to tell her father who was the PO in a neighboring cong. He, in turn, called up my realative and reported what I had said to his daughter. the next thing I knew, I was in the back room in a committee meeting for slander and HE (my relative)was prisiding over the meeting
I was very respectful but stated that I believed every word I said to be true so I didn't see how I could be accused of slander. He was very angry and demanded,"Where did you get your information?" I calmly and honestly replied, "From your wife." She had been trying for years to get other elders and COs to recognize how he was abusing his authority both in the cong and in his own home. He always got out of it by saying his wife was mentally ill. (she was simply severly depressed).
At any rate since the source of the info was his own wife, and since I was able to fake an apology, the matter was dropped. About a year later he was removed for (of all things) betraying confidences! Which was the LEAST of his many offences!
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3rdgen
Welcome! There are many warm and loving people on this board with countless years of combined experience with Jehovah's witnesses. There is much good advice found here.