I am almost in tears right now. I am ashamed to say I am an extravert who has never had a clue about intraverts until reading this thread. I now realize my firstborn was an intravert trying to cope withan extravert little sister. I had no idea he needed personal space and that it was my responsibility as a parent to see to it that he got it. I didn't interceed until little sis was screaming bloody murder after being pounded by brother. At this point brother would catch hell for hurting her. This went on every day all day long and I chocked it up to jealousy. Fortunately, I had a chance before he died to tell him I was sorry for appearing to favor his sister and that I loved him very much. This also explains why it took me so long to leave the Borg. I always managed to fit in. No wonder, I'm an obedient extravert. No need to read "worldly books on parenting, psychology and personal development. I feel like an ass.
Posts by 3rdgen
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172Are You Raising An Introvert?
by darth frosty inits not easy being an introvert in an extrovert worldespecially when youre a kid.
it is even more difficult if none of the adults in the kids life recognize that the child is an introvert.
this doesnt happen only when the childs parents are extroverts, but also with introverted parents who have never understood their own introverted nature.. .
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Not on JW.org : Question for Jehovah's Witnesses elders: If pants have Pagan origins, is DENIM demonized ?
by Balaamsass2 ina yound sister was severely counciled by the elders for wearing a denim "jean skirt" to the hall last year.
she left with tears in her eyes and never returned.. for the last 50 years denim jeans have been banned at the brooklyn bethel breakfast table.. i understand denim jeans are banned even by tourists visiting beth ell.
billy explained the pants situation in past posts.. so my questions are: what other instances are there of denim bans by watchtower ?
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3rdgen
Also what about denim fractions? Is it ok to have denim trim on your skirt? What about faux denim? Is that getting dangerously close to the "unclean thing"?
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Not on JW.org : Question for Jehovah's Witnesses elders: If pants have Pagan origins, is DENIM demonized ?
by Balaamsass2 ina yound sister was severely counciled by the elders for wearing a denim "jean skirt" to the hall last year.
she left with tears in her eyes and never returned.. for the last 50 years denim jeans have been banned at the brooklyn bethel breakfast table.. i understand denim jeans are banned even by tourists visiting beth ell.
billy explained the pants situation in past posts.. so my questions are: what other instances are there of denim bans by watchtower ?
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3rdgen
Hey Ass, They're in the pockets Duh....... Now if the skirt was simply made out of denim fabric does it then become a conscience issue?
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The JW.ORG craziness has begun....
by cultBgone ini guess it was bound to happen..... just saw a facebook post where the user updated their profile picture to be the blue square jw.org logo.. .
don't know whether to laugh or cry.
worship the borg, you people!!!
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3rdgen
I've seen it too. A 20-somthing son of a former JW friend of mine replaced his FB profile pic with the logo. It makes my heart sink to see the promising smart funny attractive kids of my friends happily drinking the kool-aid and offering it to others.
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not till after the meeting.....
by sowhatnow inthe dreaded phrase i will never miss!!!.
some of the ones i had to hear ,.
we cant go over grandmas... till after the meeting.
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MissFit, (((hugs))) Sowhatnow, Yep, my mom was never physically violent but she took guilt and manipulation to an art form. I feel for you.
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not till after the meeting.....
by sowhatnow inthe dreaded phrase i will never miss!!!.
some of the ones i had to hear ,.
we cant go over grandmas... till after the meeting.
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3rdgen
Hi sowhatnow, a while back I started a thread titled "Were you "diciplined" after the meetings?" Back in the 50's when I was little I was the only youngster in the cong. I would get the look and a wisper "wait till we get home." Then an unbearable feeling of dread set in as I knew what awaited me after the meeting. My dad didn't want the others to know he beat his toddler with a belt and he didn't want my screams to make him look bad as he was the PO. So that phrase is a sad one for me to this day.
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Did you ever actually believe the JW fantasy version of "Paradise"?
by Darth Fader The Sequel ini am sure this topic has probably been discussed many times before but,......... i would like reassurance that i am not the only one who gagged every time i heard a jw pontificating on their fantasy version of what "paradise" will be like.
particularly when it comes to the animals.
more specifically, that the animals will all become vegetarians.
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As a born in I believed in a paradise earth the same as I believed the sky is blue and and grass is green. Duh.... Jehovah could and would satisfy the desire of every living thing. That worked great for me until It was brought out in some talk that there would have to be a lot of oversight after the big A by the "Princes"/Elders. After the clean up they would assign where we would live etc. Whaaaattttt??? He continued, "If you don't get along with ALL your brothers you might be in for a rude awakening. You may be assigned to live next to the one you dislike." Oh noooooooooo!!!! I was in the same cong with some in-laws I detest and and the feeling is mutual. Now I 'm told some sadistic Elder is going to teach me a lesson in paradise by making me misrable?? This rediculous talk actually helped me think. Hmmmmm
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Wow! Are You Stumped By Anything This 'Still-in' X-JW says?
by Island Man inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbzn9aric28.
i think he needs help.
i feel pity for him..
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3rdgen
Island man, great response!
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?? Question for those that have successfully faded/are out:
by Darth Fader The Sequel inquestion: can any of you that have successfully faded out of the jw world without being df'd or da'd relate to me/us how you were able to maintain at least one or a few of your "still in" friends or family?
(and even if you were df'd or da'd and still maintained some relationships, how did that go?).
obviously, the truly demented, sick and twisted (and highly effective) policies and structure of the wtbt$ to set up a system by which anyone that chooses to no longer believe or participate must be treated as "mentally diseased" and a pariah by their own friends and family is the hands down, numero uno reason why many hundreds of thousands and possibly millions of jw's do not leave.
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3rdgen
I hate injustice as well. It is especially unjust that a dub is never allowed to simply stop believing the GB speaks for God and quit.
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?? Question for those that have successfully faded/are out:
by Darth Fader The Sequel inquestion: can any of you that have successfully faded out of the jw world without being df'd or da'd relate to me/us how you were able to maintain at least one or a few of your "still in" friends or family?
(and even if you were df'd or da'd and still maintained some relationships, how did that go?).
obviously, the truly demented, sick and twisted (and highly effective) policies and structure of the wtbt$ to set up a system by which anyone that chooses to no longer believe or participate must be treated as "mentally diseased" and a pariah by their own friends and family is the hands down, numero uno reason why many hundreds of thousands and possibly millions of jw's do not leave.
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How long does it take before the coast is clear? I'm not sure it ever is completely clear. But the more time that passes the more likely you will be left alone. A lot will depend on how your family is viewed by your elders and how you behave in public. Let me explain:If an elder in your hall has a beef with you he will try harder to get rid of you. OTOH, if one or more elders is particularly fond of you they will try harder to drag you back. Best case senario is if the elders are worried what you might do if cornered by them (lawsuit, letters to CO/Branch, knowledge of wrongdoing by said elder/elders and their families) you get the picture. By public behavior I mean attending holliday activities, decorating for them, pictures or statements on social media JW's would find objectionable. Political involvement etc. etc. Saying anything that even hints at "apostasy" to another dub or family member.This is the part I have the most trouble with. No matter what you choose DF, DA, or fade, there are consequences that acompany each of them. In a fade you give up your personal freedom in order to keep a few friends and family. There is NO easy way out.