Terry: "These people are contrarians......." Oh so true! My grandparents (both sides) were attracted to Russell's sort of new age version of Christianity. They saw plenty to dislike in their churches so welcomed something they thought was new and different. Being raised in the enviorment of of the religion being "The Truth" my parents became whole hog followers of Rutherford. By this time (30's and 40's) the religion had morphed into being PURPOSELY offensive so as to cause the persecution they thought identified them as "true Christians". In so doing what kind of people did they convert? MORE assh**es! Those of us born to these strict followers of Rutherford had a miserable childhood. Those of us that didn't rebel, stayed out of fear. The neverending exposure to (as Hassen puts it) B.I.T.E. methods hooked us and kept us mental prisioners.
Posts by 3rdgen
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42What are the ODDS Jehovah's Witnesses are the ONLY TRUE religion?
by Terry inthe entire organization shoves all its chips into the center of the table on one bet: they are the only mouthpiece of god on earth.. what are the odds to this bet?.
the statistic for christian denominations make jw's 1 out of 41,000 opinions.. a chance of 1 in 41 thousand is a tough bet.. _________________________.
if abc tv broadcasts shark tank and your tv receives mister ed .
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Choices for JW with Ebola: die by refusing blood transfusion or be DF'd
by goingthruthemotions insuppose a jwombie gets ebola and the only treatment is a blood transfusion.
will that person die because they want to please there god the wtbts or.
die a spiritual death because they wanted to save there life and get df'd?.
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Jimmy you're right.
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Will JW rape victims die at Armageddon as apostates?
by Zoos inmany jw victims flee the "truth" after elders have raped them and covered it up.
doctrines aside, there would be no reason for one of these young victims to conclude the watchtower environment is god's arrangement on earth.. does the organization acknowledge this irreparable damage or will it write these victims off as apostates, slated for death at armageddon if they choose to get the hell out?.
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Since when has the organization acknowledged any part they play in a person leaving?
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New XJW song video: Wish You'd Disappear: The great turnaround
by Inkvoid ina new video for a reworded version of pink floyd's 'wish you were here':.
'david' gets bad news at the kingdom hall: he's in trouble.
we see him wince as the judicial committee's decision to disfellowship him is finally announced.
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3rdgen
Nice work!
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New XJW song video: Wish You'd Disappear: The great turnaround
by Inkvoid ina new video for a reworded version of pink floyd's 'wish you were here':.
'david' gets bad news at the kingdom hall: he's in trouble.
we see him wince as the judicial committee's decision to disfellowship him is finally announced.
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3rdgen
Wecome inkvoid. Tell us something about yourself. We are here to help if you want/need it.
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TRY THIS WATCHTOWER QUIZ
by Terry inthe quiz will be followed by the answers.
don't peek!.
the answers should be avoided while taking the quiz .
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3rdgen
Good post Terry. #9 Is interesting to me because my father flew overseas with Knoor a number of times before 1952. (when the vaccination ban was lifted.) They had to have a passport to travel to these countries and they had to have all the required vaccinations to obtain the passport. Smells like hypocracy don't you think? When I was born in '52 I was not given the vaccinations that doctors routinely gave babies. My parents both had passports and were vaccinated but chose to withhold them from me. (more hypocracy) I'm glad "Ceasar" forced the polio vaccine in order to enter shool. When I came down with an unusually severe case of chicken Pox mom was worried that it was smallpox and sheepishly told the doctor that she had failed to have me innoculated. he he
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Why do I keep reading here about a new "10 Hour Pioneer" arrangement?
by RubaDub inthere seems to be several discussions about a new 10 hour pioneer arrangement that was susposedly announced at the 2014 annual meeting.. i even called a couple who usually get invited each year and they said that there was nothing like that mentioned.
they just mentioned the "new" stuff had to do with the jw tv thing, the language app, the changes regarding gog of magog, the talents, the virgins, etc.
but absolutely nothing about 10 hour pioneers.. rub a dub.
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3rdgen
What Island man said.
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My appeal was successful. Now what?
by noonehome infaders: why do we bother staying in?.
we cling to some false hope that people we love will accept us despite our not believing, even though its as much a fairytale as the dogmas based on untruths.. ive never been anything but a good friend and human being and would do anything for the people i love; i couldnt dream of shutting out someone i care about.
and its not like theyd revel in the idea of doing it either, yet its seen as not just the only choice, but also as undoubtedly the right thing to do.
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3rdgen
noonehome, Sorry you are feeling low today. The good news is you acomplished something amazing! Hardly anyone ever wins a JW appeal and in so doing you have won FREEDOM. Why do I say freedom? Because you are free to talk to ANY person in the world who will talk to you. When I learned TTATT 3 years ago I was extremely angry and wanted to DA. I wanted to tell Watchtower "You can't fire me, I quit! I am glad now I was talked out of it. Lately I've been reverse witnessing to my best JW friend and it's working! She has all but stopped meetings and now wants to discuss: Where do I go from here? and What do I teach my daughter? Winning your appeal does not mean you have to be a JW. Walk out the door and stay free.
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Witness Weddings "Introducing Brother and Sister...!"
by stuckinarut2 ini can not stand it when the speaker at a witness wedding introduces the new couple as "brother and sister_____".
how messed up does that sound especially to non-witnesses??.
just another stupid witness tradition that makes the rest of the world see how crazy they are!.
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3rdgen
Interesting. I havent been to a JW wedding in about 15 years. Is this a relativly new thing or regional?
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Do you suffer from WELTSCHMERZ?
by yadda yadda 2 indefinition of weltschmerz1: mental depression or apathy caused by comparison of the actual state of the world with an ideal state 2: a mood of sentimental sadness.
as a jw, horrific news and reports of terrible suffering and tragedy never especially shocked or disturbed me because of the conviction i had that it was all temporary suffering caused by satan and the demons and it was soon to end and be replaced by a wonderful new system where all those who suffered and died would be resurrected.
it took the edge off life's harshness.. these fantastical beliefs innoculated me against really feeling and empathisizing with the reality of the horror and suffering experienced by so many in this world.
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I have never tried Heroin or opium so I don't know what they feel like, but addicts of opiates have reported that the high was so good and powerful that they were addicted after the first try. The JW religion seldom made me happy or high. While there were some good times and some good friends with JW's I was mostly numb. All I had was the addiction without the buzz. Weltschmerz is as good as any to describe it. Now that I am finally out and for the first time in 6 decades I have made a conscious choice to be a little selfish. Knowing I can't fix the world's problems, I avoid disturbing news programs. I do help individuals in need and that makes me feel better than any work I did as a JW.