Posts by Roberta804

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im turning in my letter friday,

by unstopableravens in

Proof of a Kingdom Hall being sold to a church!

by Sittingstraight1212 in

it cracks me up if you bring this subject up to a witness , they always try to convince themselves that i'm reading into this!!!.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpqwknq31ie&feature=youtube_gdata_player.

A KH here in Michigan built in the 1960s (a nice one with windows) was at first sold to a animal vet. Two years ago it was resold to a Michigan Marijuana group and is now a very active Marijuana Compassion Club. The best religion ever!!!!

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just when you think you've made friends with a "normal" person

by Hortensia in

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rode over to the farmer's market with a couple of neighbors, nice women, seem sensible.

the driver stopped in the middle of a block and stared at the coca-cola truck that was parked there.

she said, "do you see the round tower?

Roberta804

Have any of you seen what they are showing on the History Channel lately?????? Everything from alians to crop circles and they TRY to put it in the context of "history". No wonder people do not know theory from fact.

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Part 3: My mother continues to try to ruin me

by sosoconfused in

i am not sure if anyone cares, but the drama with my mother and me leaving the org continues.. apparently after todays craptower she goes on a spastic rant that because of my decision i am slowly killing her and my father.

the funny thing is i do not feel bad over this... i can't.. i have children and a wife of my own that i need to be happy for.

i love them - but as they get older and closer to death i realize that a new season is coming and imust care for my family the best way i can... the same way they thought they were doing.

Roberta804

And I thought I had the only Toxic parent in the world! I hate to break it to you.... but you HAVE to come to terms with the absolute fact she does not care how you feel PERIOD! See her as she truly is, a self absorbed pathitic woman. Sure she deserves for you to honor her as your mother.... God did not say you had to LOVE her or even like her. Make sure she is taken care of in her old age but that is it.

From just reading her letter to you I can make a lot of asumptions. She was never interested in you education, you most likely were a victim of bullying and all she would do about it is remind you that persecution is to be expected as a JW. And if you allow her, she would demand from you that she is the most important person in you life.

You, my friend, are only an object to her, not a person with thoughts and feelings of your own.

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RANDOM THOUGHTS on this and that

by Terry in

our dependence on getting the answers from others is what got us in trouble in the first place.

my view is this: nobody has a secret pipeline to absolute knowledge about anything.

they are all pretending and then convincing themselves they are certain.. _________________***________________________ .

Roberta804

Great post Terry,

I have one to add for us old timer Apostates: Learn to relax.

Being raised as a JW is like being raised by an OCD end of the world prepper. Everything is for the future or some future event. So much hyperviligence all the time.... constant. Allowing myself the luxury of curling up with a good book, or sleeping 'til noon will not bring on the end of the world. My house will not burn down because I did not get all the house work done in one day.

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Any fallout from the "human apostates" convention talk yet?

by cedars in

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friends

hi folks.

i'm just curious as to whether anyone is experiencing any repercussions following the "human apostates" talk on the saturday of the district convention?.

my relatives will be attending soon, which makes me anxious.

Roberta804

Ceaders,

How i know about the Anti-Defamation League is on account of my working for a well known Jewish family as their nanny and housekeeper just as I was leaving the JW in 1986. A very good attorney friend of theirs, last name of Gordon, was president of the Michigan chapter of the ADL. He wrote my DA letter for me which served me well years later when I personally brought a suit against the WBTS for defamation of character. I can not discuss the details of the suit, but I can say my son walked away satisfied. I of course will never be satisfied! One thing I can say is, this hate speech is exactly the same thing the elders pulled on me that brought them to the ADL's attorney's attention.

We have something here Cedars, no mistake about that. I am ready and very willing to organize picketing at local KHs, write letters. It's better than spray painting their sign.... smile.

One more thing..... for everyone.... there is one thing the WBTS hates more than losing money... and that is embarassment. Have we all not just been waiting for the WBTS to put their foot in their mouths so we can show the world the depth of their hate? Well they sure did it with the words "mentally diseased". If we don't jump on this now, time is going to take it's toll on the effect we can make.

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Any fallout from the "human apostates" convention talk yet?

by cedars in

jw
friends

hi folks.

i'm just curious as to whether anyone is experiencing any repercussions following the "human apostates" talk on the saturday of the district convention?.

my relatives will be attending soon, which makes me anxious.

Roberta804

Opps, here is it:

http://www.adl.org/combating-hate/

Ceaders, I am very serious about this..... I want so much to do something about this.

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Any fallout from the "human apostates" convention talk yet?

by cedars in

jw
friends

hi folks.

i'm just curious as to whether anyone is experiencing any repercussions following the "human apostates" talk on the saturday of the district convention?.

my relatives will be attending soon, which makes me anxious.

Roberta804

Here is the website to the Anti-defamation League. Again, they help all who suffer from hate crimes, not just Jews. I think we can learn and get support from them. What are your thoughts Ceaders?

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Any fallout from the "human apostates" convention talk yet?

by cedars in

jw
friends

hi folks.

i'm just curious as to whether anyone is experiencing any repercussions following the "human apostates" talk on the saturday of the district convention?.

my relatives will be attending soon, which makes me anxious.

Roberta804

You are so right Tailspin. Nothing will happen about this hate speech unless we are strong enough to do something about it. Letter writing, protest. I'll be good and not do any of my destructive antics. I would love to protest, carrying a sign about hate speech on a Sunday morning at a local KH.

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Any fallout from the "human apostates" convention talk yet?

by cedars in

jw
friends

hi folks.

i'm just curious as to whether anyone is experiencing any repercussions following the "human apostates" talk on the saturday of the district convention?.

my relatives will be attending soon, which makes me anxious.

Roberta804

We need to MAKE this a media issue by causing some ruckus. What would happen if hundreds of people started writing hate letters to vairious targeted KHs to the point it becomes a media issue? I can see it now... a church getting hate mail. That would open the door for discussion of their own hate speech because the media is going to want to know why they have so much hate mail. Or better yet, how about a letter writing comapain to the Anti-defamation league? Yes I know they are mostly for the Jewish population, but they also come to the defense of other religions and cultures.

As long as we remain quiet, nothing is going to be done. Personally I think this recent hate speech deserves local protests at local KHs, not at the conventions. There are so many people at the conventions any protesters just blend in. However, if protest occur at a quiet neighborhood KH, that would surely make local new and may be picked up by the main stream media..... especially if it happens at several local KHs.

To me, this recent hate speech has crossed the line, and I would gladly protest any and every KH on a Sunday morning.

Question: If a DF person decides to return to the KH for whatever reason..... can ANYONE tell me how to UN-mentally disease someone? In my field of psychiatric social work and medical field, "disease" implies a permenat disability.

Another thought.... I am certainly no supporter of Obama, but our Dear Leader in his recent speech called religions devisive and he actually called out Catholics and Prostantents for having their own schools and raising children to hate others that are not of the same religion. I think, with this social climate, and the DC still in swing... respectful, orderly, peaceful protests at local KHs on Sunday mornings would have the best chance of getting the media attention. Heck, if Obama gets wind of the hate speech coming from the WBTS, he may actually use it as an example of how hateful cults/religions can be.