Despite of some mistakes in their understading of the Bible ,Jehovah's Witnesses have the best religious christian views as compared to other organized church organizations.
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47Jan Awake, stating JW's are only true religion
by lostsheep82 ini haven't posted in a long time.
most trying to recover and still get my head straight, this religion when you find it's not the 'truth' is hard to move on sometimes.
my mom urgently needed to speak to me about a magazine that just came out.
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Did Jesus resurrect Himself?
by brotherdan inthis is a common scripture, but i find it interesting that it is in direct conflict to jw belief.
john 2:19 says, "jesus answered them, "destroy this temple, and i will raise it again in three days.
" the jews replied, "it has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and you are going to raise it in three days?
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God of the Bible raised Jesus from grave .If Jesus was dead someone else had to raise him .Only God could do that.
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How do Jehovah's Witnesses interpret the Bible?
by brotherdan inthis is the information for the number 3 talk this week.. how do jehovahs witnesses arrive at their explanation of the bible?.
a key factor is that the witnesses really believe that the bible is gods word and that what it contains is there for our instruction.
(2 tim.
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It is the organization so it must be under the rule of governing body and that governing body should explain the Bible the way it will uphold the existence of the organization. Matthew 24.45-46 proves that there must be some over other who give spiritual food to those who are under the rule of that faithful servant.
Luke 9.49-50 allows for exception one may be a servant of God without belonging to any local church organization that is biblical but that servant cannot be against the true religious group.
I am not against Jehovah's Witnesses while being an indpendent christian for some 36 years .This can be done by you as well .
I don't have exactly the same interpretaion of the Bible like Jehovah's Witnesses share but recognize them as the only true christian church organization.
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Random chance or design?
by goddidit ini don't read too much jw material because it's pretty much all the same old rubbish and the constant lies and propaganda drives me nuts.. however, i've noticed a common theme with the 'argument from design' articles.
you know, look at the eye, isn't it complex, evolution is wrong, blah blah.
all the ones i've seen end in a question like "what do you think, is this a product of random chance or design?".
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Regardless how this universe came into existence it was God who created it.People who don't understand who is God Yahweh which is God of the Bible see contradiction or similar between creationism and evolution. The evolution nicely fits into God's creative acts .
The evolution proves how wisely God created the universe.
Every drop of rain is created by God and scientist will explain it scientifically and yet it is God who created it .God acts behind the laws of nature.
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Jan Awake, stating JW's are only true religion
by lostsheep82 ini haven't posted in a long time.
most trying to recover and still get my head straight, this religion when you find it's not the 'truth' is hard to move on sometimes.
my mom urgently needed to speak to me about a magazine that just came out.
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Of all christian churches they excel and if we live in the endtime era which can be proven we are ( http://www.focusonthebible2011.com ) they must be that true christian religon God Yahweh favors. 1884 AD + 120 years ( Genesis 6.3) = 2004 AD + 7 years ("7 days - Genesis 7.1-4 ) = 2011 AD. You should check also http://www.familyradio.com to learn about the other way to come to the year 2011 AD .
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JWs doctrine is a comprehensive falsehood
by sabastious ini have been reading through djeggnog's posts.
this man is a wt doctrine expert, it's scary.. i think him, and a lot of wt junkies i know believe in this wacky theology so much because they have literally tomes of analysis on it.
every argument we have every come up with (and some we have not) seem to have been discovered by the wt leaders and incorporated into their immense theology.. the problem is, that it is littered with fallacious logic and outright falsehood.. but the devout members (like djeggnog) stand by the whole because they are so proud of the comprehensive theology they have created.
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You need to ask God for help in this . No question at all Jehovahs Witness doctrines surpass all doctrines of all other christian church organizations on this planet earth.
Harold Camping from the Family Radio ( http://www.familyradio.com ) refutes all church local congregations while I am making one huge exception to Jehovah's Witnesses . We both have the year 2011 AD as the year for Christ's return and the end of the world and yet Camping misses the point that there must be a period of 120 years ot true christian religion before Jesus returns.
http://www.focusonthebible2011.com
Matthew 24.45-46 points to the fact there must be a group of servants who will feed their flock in the endtime and no other church except Jehovah's Witnesses fits this description .
If Jesus Christ returns in 2011 AD as predicted enemies of Jehovah's Witnesses will be removed by God off the face of the earth according to the Bible.
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Eliminating all traces of exJWs
by Scully indoes anyone know if it is common practice for jws to take down or remove photos of dfd or dad family members within their homes?.
if so, is there any basis for this practice within wt literaturetm?
or is it simply a matter of "going beyond the things written" in order to hurt and disrespect the target, and extended family members who have close ties to the target?.
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The prediction for 2011 AD ( focusonthebible2011.com ) is based on the Bible and it uses Jehovahs Witness Organization as an important part of the endtime era . There must be a period of 120 years included in the prediction and it must be related to the true christian religion or religions .
1884 AD + 120 years = 2004 AD and 7 years extra for 7 days from Noah's time - Genesis 6.3;7.1-4.
The International Bible Student Association began the revival of the true christian religion. Jehovah's Witnesses are their legitimate successors by being linked to the name watchtower.
2004 AD + 7 years = 2011 AD .
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NEED HELP !!! 7000 yrs. ??
by thinker inthe wt claims that each "day" in genesis (chap.1) is really 7000 yrs.
can anyone provide an explaination of this belief?
please list references from wt literature or scripture that backs up this idea.. personally, i can find nothing; which is interesting since so much jw doctrine and teaching hinges on this number "7000".. thinker
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Those who use this idea can come up with some interesting predictions.
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Is Annihilation of the Unrepentant Wicked Justice?
by Ding inwe all understand the justice argument against hell: the idea that god might decide that a wicked person's sins merit everlasting conscious punishment offends our sense of justice.. do even hitler's sins merit never-ending conscious punishment for all eternity?.
we know that the wtbts takes an annihilationist view of the "everlasting" punishment described by the bible.. they teach that there is no separate "soul" or "spirit" that survives physical death and that the ultimate fate of the unrepentant wicked is annihilation by jehovah.. let's assume for the sake of argument that they are right.. is this justice?.
over the years, the wtbts has flip-flopped on whether or not these wicked people will be resurrected for purposes of judgment or whether they simply will remain dead with no hope of any sort of resurrection.. let's look at various possibilities.
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You will not teach God who is the Just God what is just or what is not just.
Soul that sins it shall die - Ezekiel 18.4.
Hitler would do almost nothing by himself without those who served him blindly .
What if it turns out that you are not a saved person ? You are waiting for the day when you will be tormeneted in hell ?
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NEED HELP !!! 7000 yrs. ??
by thinker inthe wt claims that each "day" in genesis (chap.1) is really 7000 yrs.
can anyone provide an explaination of this belief?
please list references from wt literature or scripture that backs up this idea.. personally, i can find nothing; which is interesting since so much jw doctrine and teaching hinges on this number "7000".. thinker
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I myself used 2 Peter 3 to get this idea of 7000 years .
Harold Camping from http://www.familyradio.com got something interesting .
Years ago he counted based on the Bible the Flood of Noah took place in 4990 BC .
I knew that we have some 2000 years since Christ but not realized that there are some 5000 years to Christ from the time of the Flood Harold Camping came to.
4990 BC + 5000 years as 5 days with each day as 1000 years = 11 AD + 2000 years = 2011 AD !