Send it....for all the reasons above. Whats the worst that can happen? It may be returned unopened. But if you don't send it, you'll be 2nd guessing yourself forever. And send another next year....
mauiboy
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What is the protocol for sending an anniversary card to...
by AwSnap insomeone who's shunning you?
it's my sister's 10th anniversary today.
i sent her an anniversary card in the mail, and am reeeeally hoping it doesn't get returned to me.
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The Watchtowers mission statement....changed ??when??
by mauiboy inseems to me that years ago the wt's mission statement inside the front cover of the magazine mentioned that when donations cease, it would be recognized that it was time to cease publication of the magazine.
does anyone else remember this...or am i losing it?
the satement now has nothing even suggesting such a sentiment, and i was wondering how others re-call it?
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mauiboy
On the inside of the front cover, at the top of the page is the magazines mission statement: "The purpose of this magazine......" blah, blah,blah. I haven't looked at it for years and was wondering when (If) it changed....
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The Watchtowers mission statement....changed ??when??
by mauiboy inseems to me that years ago the wt's mission statement inside the front cover of the magazine mentioned that when donations cease, it would be recognized that it was time to cease publication of the magazine.
does anyone else remember this...or am i losing it?
the satement now has nothing even suggesting such a sentiment, and i was wondering how others re-call it?
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mauiboy
Seems to me that years ago the WT's mission statement inside the front cover of the magazine mentioned that when donations cease, it would be recognized that it was time to cease publication of the magazine. Does anyone else remember this...or am I losing it? The satement now has nothing even suggesting such a sentiment, and I was wondering how others re-call it? If it did change, does anyone know with which issue the new mission statement appeared?? I'm trying to figure out if it may tie in with the current interest and participation in hedge funds. Thanks.
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"We Need a New Pledge"
by mauiboy inin our local paper (maui news) on dec.11 there appeared an article entitle "we need a new pledge".
it dealt with the need for childrens protection from pedophiles.
it screamed for an answer noting the victorian law reagrding 'working with children' as an example of what has been done elsewhere in the world towards this end.
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mauiboy
People from all over the world submit letters to the Maui News and they seem to publish any and all that meet their criteria: Don't exceed 250 words, be of local interest, etc. Wh get lots of visitors from everywwhere and its surprising how many read and contribute long after their trips here. So, I'm guessing it would fly. Most local people who are in my position (possibly a DF'ing candidate) would probably not do it. I'm thinking it may be a chance to put a thought in the dubs head so that they might be prepared mentally to realize this isn't an 'apostate' issue should it make mainstream media in Feb. Thanks for the Q.
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"We Need a New Pledge"
by mauiboy inin our local paper (maui news) on dec.11 there appeared an article entitle "we need a new pledge".
it dealt with the need for childrens protection from pedophiles.
it screamed for an answer noting the victorian law reagrding 'working with children' as an example of what has been done elsewhere in the world towards this end.
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mauiboy
Thats the one....any takers? Maybe a chance to make at least a few people aware of whats going on. Maybe a good lead-in for the Feb 21st (if it doesn't get delayed again) courtroom drama.
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"We Need a New Pledge"
by mauiboy inin our local paper (maui news) on dec.11 there appeared an article entitle "we need a new pledge".
it dealt with the need for childrens protection from pedophiles.
it screamed for an answer noting the victorian law reagrding 'working with children' as an example of what has been done elsewhere in the world towards this end.
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mauiboy
In our local paper (Maui News) on Dec.11 there appeared an article entitle "We need a new Pledge". It dealt with the need for childrens protection from pedophiles. It screamed for an answer noting the Victorian law reagrding 'Working With Children' as an example of what has been done elsewhere in the world towards this end. If you care to read it, go to www.mauinews.com then click on opinions shown just under the newspapers name. Then click on Editorials and scroll back to Dec. 11...Please note that anyone can submit a letter to the editor mentioning anything related to the subject that may be of interest to the community here on the island. Of course, if an editorial has alredy been written, then it's a given that at least some of the community is interested in this subject. If that letter happened to contain a sentence or two regarding JW's refusal to submit despite the efforts of local authorities prompting and offering help to do this, it may be entirely appropos. Perhaps mention of a link to www.stevenunthank.com and his "religious manifesto" for more background info on the law and the JW's obstenance to submitting. I t would be polite to conclude with praise for Victoria Australia for their bold steps in all areas of the situation. I want to do this myself, but must not have my name shown in the paper as it would wreak to havoc in my home life and more than likely an attempt to DF me....seperating me from my daughter and g'kids.....couldn't bear that. If you have comments or want more info, please feel free to PM me. I will check for messages as I'm able; usually when my wife is away on Tues. and Sunday at her meetings and I have some quiet, private time. Be patient for a response.
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watchtower feeding time
by ssn587 inhad a thought, yeah i know they come every now and then, of how it is that the wt really feeds the sheep, they are all captive in a pen and the gb is shoveling manure to feed them and they are eating it up only to get indigestion, and yet they want more of it, seems to me that after eating a lifetime of bs from the gb one would wtfu.
but no for some it will never happen as they have become acclimated to eating the bs that is feed them.
for those that have waken up and jumped the fence so to speak, they find that the grass is truly greener on the other side of the fence, and we have hope that those sitting atop the fence will see that..
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mauiboy
Do what you must, but in my experience if your conscience is well-trained by high morals; you should listen to it.
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The Control is simply amazing
by outsmartthesystem inat the kind advice of so many of you (and hassan) on this board....i ceased attempting to discuss doctrine/failures with my wife many months ago.
but unfortunately that does not prevent her from grilling me from time to time.
during one of our infamous "discussions" she said she was going to "investigate" this supposed "proof" that is out there regarding 587bc.
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mauiboy
If you want some insights into obedience to authority go to youtube and enter "Milgras Obedience to Autority experiment" and watch part 1,2 and 3. About 25 minutes total, but well worth your time. Then think about how the organization uses similar mental, social and emotional (instead of physical) Tactics to obtain the same --or even more drastic-- results.
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A thought for those with believing partners.....
by snare&racket inwhen i was a single male jw i knew between age 22-25 that i had major concerns with the religion.
this had a big effect on my interaction with opp sex in the org.
whenever i got close to someone i would consider the inevitable time that i would have to face my concerns.
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mauiboy
Hello S&R, Kudos to you for having the foresight and common sense to not entangle yourself with someone knowing that you'd not be able to keep up the promises (or facade of faith) forever. I fell for someone hard at 17....I know most folks would roll their eyes and think "too young to know what real love is". But I made the commitment and showed her 'the truth'.....even tho I knew it wasn't all 'truth' to me. She was a Catholic and converted to become a JW. Next year will make 45 that we've been together. We have survived just about everything a marriage can be challenged with (shy of the death or serious illness of a child). But when I quit the JWs four years ago, I started the most challenging marital rift we've encountered. Somehow we are still together. Of late tho, I have been wondering how the "borg" manages to maintain such control over people such as me (for 50 years) and my wife, Dad and 1 of my children. So, I've been researching control, submission, and obedience to authority. I strongly encourage all who have wondered about this to youtube "Milgras Obedience to Authority Experiment"--parts 1,2,3.....It lays the basis for understanding human nature and the inordinate willingness most of us have to submit to authority. It took me 50 years to break the chains.....35 of them in intermitant depression ranging from clinical to suicidal. Now I anxiously await the Victoria/Unthank situation to break open. I'm hoping it will hit the media, and provide a chance for a crack in the wall for my wife (and many good friends) to see the truth about 'the truth'. And yes, there is pain in seeing your mate not accept the reality. For those of us chest deep in that pain, there is also hope that perhaps this faith shattering Australian situation may be the first step to reality for all truly sincere ones.
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Any willing help out there?
by mauiboy inlast sunday in our local paper there was an editorial about the need for better child protection locally against pedophiles.
the article screamed at me to write a response, but i know damned well that it will get me d.f"ed if i do..........pm me if you might be willing to help out with a submission.
thanks..
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mauiboy
Yes, I noticed that too....different Islands tho. Its a good place to live.