Posts by MarkofCane

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Feeling Sad After Uncovering TTATT

by pale.emperor in

my initial pangs of unease and doubt led me to research some things.

well, a lot of things really.

i've never felt comfortable using the bible to try to calculate dates (1914).

Feeling Sad After Uncovering TTATT

by pale.emperor in

my initial pangs of unease and doubt led me to research some things.

well, a lot of things really.

i've never felt comfortable using the bible to try to calculate dates (1914).

The truth holds no loyalty to beliefs, its either the truth or it's not. Doing mental gymnastics to make the JW version of truth possible was making me depressed, I was drinking on a daily basis and went on Paxil and Zoloft. On Sunday after meeting I would go out to eat with the family and get shit faced, during the week after meetings especially, my need for alcohol was intense. Once I allowed myself to scrutinize my beliefs and stopped the indoctrination my depression disappeared my need for alcohol is minimal almost nonexistent.....no more pills.

When I'm around those still in the bOrg i'm reminded of how miserable I was. My awaking has been tough, I've lost all my friends and shifting through family now. Some still communicate with us but very matter of fact our kids are ostracized by the kids in and around the congregations as well. These people are nuts, normal people don't act this way. So yes I was sad when I first discovered the ttatt, but after almost 4 years later I will attest...it was the best medicine for the soul and mind. I'm not a judgement ass anymore and I no longer live by end time fantasies. I'm a integral part of society now and this life and world I live in, is the "real life". My journey has opened new opportunities for me that I would of never considered when i was trapped in my mental prison, the truth does set you free.

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"Just don't overthink the truth"

by stuckinarut2 in

jw
friends

so after almost a year of complete inactivity and non attendance, i ran into a nice brother from the local congregation.. after some nice chit-chat, he says "we really miss you and your family...etc...you were always the kind and supportive one, the approachable and encouraging one in the congregation.

your absence has confused so many".

i thanked him and said "oh no, no individual has stumbled us.

MarkofCane

Overthinking lead me here, he's right.

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The last video in the 2016 convention...

by problemaddict 2 in

...is an epic triumph is emotional manipulation.

bringing together all of the stories they told thus far and placing them int he "new world" complete with the little boy who was killed in a car accident coming back from the dead.. i have a good friend who is stuck in with family and plays the role.

he said everyone was crying, and the people next to him rated the videos by how many tissues they needed to dry their eyes.

MarkofCane

Just in North Korea just called Bethel, they would like a copy of the video. Apparently they need a moral booster too.

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The last video in the 2016 convention...

by problemaddict 2 in

...is an epic triumph is emotional manipulation.

bringing together all of the stories they told thus far and placing them int he "new world" complete with the little boy who was killed in a car accident coming back from the dead.. i have a good friend who is stuck in with family and plays the role.

he said everyone was crying, and the people next to him rated the videos by how many tissues they needed to dry their eyes.

MarkofCane

Complete garbage, complete mental manipulation. They hold the keys to death! Who wouldn't want their loved one back? Who wouldn't want perfect health? Who wouldn't want to live forever? Ok forever is a long time.

Its like being in a pyramid scheme, you have your doubts, friends and family warned you it was a scam, but you invested so much how can you admit it was all for nothing? How can you admit your life was a sham, that you were deceived, you propagated the same sham, you were obedient to a Brooklyn corporation built from lies and deception. Videos like these are necessary to continue the absurd fantasy and boost you with hope that perhaps its all going to pay off, that maybe you made the right choices and the rest off the world is doomed. Its hard to walk away from a scheme where you placed all your eggs. To me this video is so sad, cruel and disgusting.

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What is truth?

by Heisenberg in

jw
friends

well, i have been lurking on this site for several months and i recently decided to join as a member.

i have made several observations and would like to make a few comments.. first, i am perplexed by the attitude of many on this site that are either former or active (but apostate) jws.

they seem to have a strong hatred for the wts and also for rank and file jws.

MarkofCane

This is a great thread on "what is truth" good Sunday reading otherwise go out side and have some fun. Its a great Sunday morning where I live. Time to go kayaking.

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New Member

by DangerMcDanger in

my name is jimbo, i'm almost 20 years old, and i live in southern california.

here we go, here's my story (i feel like i'm in an aa meeting haha):.

i was invited by a friend who, looking back, i could tell was buttering me up for months so she can lunge on the perfect opportunity to invite me to a meeting.

MarkofCane

Welcome....My word is "Brother" cult speak us against them .

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Someone anonymously tipped the elders?

by raven in

so here an update on my current situation, in a nutshell i've been trying to quietly fade for the past 5 months.. well, my mom somehow found out that i am currently fading and that i live with my boyfriend (for more info on this check my previous posts) i told her yes i live with him and yes i no longer want to be a jw.

anyways, yesterday she met my boyfriend.. awkward.

and after lunch she pulled me aside to tell me that the po came up to her (he was part of my jc when i was reproved) he said to her "someone came to me and said - i cannot say who so they will remain anonymous- but that your daughter is living with someone" my mom confirmed and apparently he told her that i have one week to confess this, and if i don't my parents are obligated to tell them everything.. what kind of nonsense is that?

MarkofCane

Tough scenario, I wouldn't spend the money on a attorney yet. First send them a letter this way you can have your say, let them know you will not be seeing them or explaining anything to them and if they persist you will have your attorney contact them. Tell them your an adult and you have nothing to explain to them or anyone else. If this doesn't get them off your back then have an attorney writer a Cease and desist letter to the BOE this will make them stop if they have any common sense. Good luck and keep us posted.

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Do you play the lottery?

by Iamallcool in

jw
friends

for me, i have only purchased just one powerball ticket in my life, that was few years ago and i am thinking about buying some more in the near future.

maybe i should push my luck even more this time.

i am going to buy 10 tickets.

MarkofCane

I started to play the lottery once I faded and unlocked the mental chains. As far as the odds of winning, the way I see it; what are the odds of being born into a death cult out of 8 billion people apparently the "odds" owe me one. Last time we went to Las Vegas gambled some too, I don't take it seriously its all for fun.

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"You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free"

by stuckinarut2 in

jw
friends

ah yes... how do the words attributed to jesus feel now?.

"you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free ".

knowing "the truth about 'the truth'" puts so much extra meaning into those words, right?.

MarkofCane

Pontius pilate asked "What is truth?" Truth is relative to your geography and early indoctrination. The only truth we can prove is that we are here today and gone tomorrow, everything else is conjecture. Removing all other speculations and beliefs just because they where taught to us from infancy was freeing. Reexamining beliefs from nothing and coming to a evidence based decision is freedom. " Evidence makes belief unnecessary".

Truth is what you can prove not what someone else claims. Freedom come at a price, truth is the price you pay.