Its all just a fu@ked up game, the only real power they have is what you give them. I view them as misguided people, some times with good intentions, those I give some leeway. The one that are corporate men I don't tolerate in any shape or form. Be strong a lot of us are going through some very difficult stuff just in a different way we really do understand trust me we do. Be strong and know that you are not alone.
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Unbelievable! Is this even allowed? Two elders from my hall RANDOMLY stopped by my apartment!
by macys inok wow.
i am really really pissed.
i had to really hold back and bite my tongue.
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Unbelievable! Is this even allowed? Two elders from my hall RANDOMLY stopped by my apartment!
by macys inok wow.
i am really really pissed.
i had to really hold back and bite my tongue.
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Ya, Have to agree with the group, if you want to be reinstated then you must comply to there standards, once you are reinstated then you can avoid them and ask them to not show up uninvited. You can do it now but it will cast a questionable light on your sincerity of wanting to re join the flock. The memorial season is upon us and they are out in herds I see them everywhere, its kind of creepy that I was part of that frenzy and craziness. This is the crazies you are asking to return too so don't be shocked at there behavior just play there game, you just have to be smarter then them, trust me its not that hard. -
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The Complete Scammer's Guide - by "Pastor" Russell (New Light!)
by Focus inmost of us are reasonably familiar with reports of scandalous goings-on of that old jellyfish lecher, the founder of the watchtower cult, the one and only charles taze russell.. but, are these stories true?.
this thread is going to be devoted to his allegedly scurrilous activities.
so, bookmark it, please, bro' focus is in possession of noo light, and we're going to explore russell like you've never seen him explored before.. we're approaching his 100th death anniversary, and for all i know this virtual exhumation may lead to a real one.
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What song explains what you have gone through in life?
by brandnew inthis is mine....watch "coolio ft. l.v - gangsta's paradise (official music video)" on youtubehttps://youtu.be/cpgbzylnz7c
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That last one after Crown & Coke. I make it a rule not to drink and post but today is the exception. -
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What song explains what you have gone through in life?
by brandnew inthis is mine....watch "coolio ft. l.v - gangsta's paradise (official music video)" on youtubehttps://youtu.be/cpgbzylnz7c
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEV4Tov1GBM
Dio- The last in Line
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What song explains what you have gone through in life?
by brandnew inthis is mine....watch "coolio ft. l.v - gangsta's paradise (official music video)" on youtubehttps://youtu.be/cpgbzylnz7c
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jne9t8sHpUc
IRONIC- Alanis Morissette
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Who can you trust to admit you have doubts?
by MrMonroe in(that is, doubts).
in margaret atwood's "the handmaid's tale", a futuristic story of life inside a repressive, abusive big brother-style society tightly controlled by religious fundamentalists, there's a passage in which the protagonist is alone with another woman at a state-controlled centre where prayers are generated -- then printed out and read out -- by a machine.
the other woman asks, in barely more than a whisper, "do you think god listens to these machines?
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When it come's to doubts and questioning WT dogma I speak to no one, not even my wife...hardly just turn to an argument. I know the facts so there no reason to argue or debate. I come here and spout off to the forum members which i'm grateful for having. In my day to day activities I never mention GOD or religion, nor do I bring up politics. No point, always seams to leave a bad taste in my mouth when it over. -
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Why Me?
by Grey Goose init the question that i have found myself constantly asking myself the past few months.
out of all the jws i interact with, why did it have to be me that woke up from this mess?.
i am relieved that i have woken up to the bullshit, but a side of me misses that fuzzy feeling of being a 100% believer.
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I've wondered this myself. Why did I have to wake form my somber? I look at the folks still in and they seem to be on the same old routine going through this life with this mislead arrogance, this fantasy that there real life is yet to be lived. They appear to be in a sleep like state just walking through this life, like it is a rehearsal of some sort, like it has no meaning. Things that are important like family and relationships are pushed aside for a future utopia that is delusional. They wave off the now for a future. They are ok with writing off the one's that leave there delusion with this pretense they are living by some spirit directed mandate given to them by the Governing body. There whole existence is fantasy.
If I could take a pill that guaranteed, I would not remember a thing but would wake up tomorrow and would be where I once was, inside the organization. My family in unity, old friends in there respective places and firmly back within the congregation. Back out in service preaching a fantasy that I truly believed, living the dream of a future paradise. Would I take the pill? I would have to say no. I would not want to be living a lie. I would rather live the now with all its unknown then a fantasy with all there deluded answer. I would rather suffer with humanity and try to figure out the world we live in then close minded and mislead to appease some old men living in Brooklyn. I would rather be the real me.
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Hello everybody!
by roberto avon inhello everybody,i've been lurking for a while and since i really adore reading the biggest part of the posts, especially this italian ( american) guy about his experiences at bethel in the 70's, i feel a little bit guilty for not participating with my contribute.
i am really so sorry for the people that are suffering because of the wts.my story is a " happy ending " story, i married a jw almost 30 years ago and i am here to tell that we are still very happy.
she is very liberal and our 3 kids are " normal ".
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A faded JW about to see the Circuit overseer
by pleaseresearch inso my mum who is in and really is finding it hard that i have left and faded.
shes asked me if i want to the the circuit overseer next week.. i have never met him and this is more my mum wanting me to get my problems i have with the organisation out.
but should i share everything i've learnt or what?.
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I agree don't meet. But if you have too, like I had to. I had a couple of elders hounding me, leaving messages on my phone. So i figured I would see them next time I showed up at the meeting,so I called back and accepted to meet with them and the CO, but instead of my home I said I would only meet at the Kingdom hall. They agreed and we met after the meeting. The CO asked me a number of times if there was anything he could do? If I believed the Organization was God vessel? I said yes to everything and said that we had some personal issues we are working out and needed some time and privacy to accomplish this. This kind of left him and the elders satisfied and have back off since then.
If you decide to meet be careful not to show disagreement with any doctrine or GB agenda. Don't bring up any issue about the organization that you are questioning once you open that door they will pursue the blood trail. Choose your words wisely and say as little as possible. Watch that you don't roll your eyes or show body language that shows contempt for there intrusion on you. If you can't control yourself, then don't agree to meet.