Posts by MarkofCane

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The JW org is a failed doomsday cult?

by Half banana in

by its own mandate in the founding of the watchtower magazine in 1879, it was set up to proclaim the arrival of jc in the heavens according to the then currently failed adventist claim for jesus' return the year 1874.. russell's catalyst for all that came afterwards was his pet claim (in so many words) "aha but jc did in fact come... but came invisibly!

" he added without sound evidence that it took four years for jc to come to rule from the heavens after his arrival there and that then was said to be in 1878. .

within forty biblical years from the arrival date, russell promised, with hopes even higher than his bank account, that god’s kingdom with christ at the helm would rule the earth in the absence of all worldly opposition.

MarkofCane

Anyone with half a brain, that has taken the time to research the society from it very beginnings has to know it's a scam, to many failed prophecies and so much deception to even be close to Gods true earthly organization. The top brass knows "truth" is not what there selling, but how do you release 8 million sheep into the wild? How do you come forward and admit it's all bullshit? The abstaining from blood deaths were for nothing, the military cards and the imprisonment for rejecting military service, nothing. Nazi concentration camps for nothing. How do you come forward now with so much blood shed? Its better to continue with the hope even if its a lie, then to come forward about the truth and expose your self to lawsuits and massive suicides for those lost sheep.

Signs of a cult.

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Disturbance during Memorial 2016.

by Ben131895 in

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two documented disturbances during memorial 2016. type 'memorial 2016' on youtube.

MarkofCane

May I add, you will have much more success coming to a site like this where you can deconstruct there beliefs or can participate in a healthy, respectful debate about there mandates. There is more success with people coming to these sites, as we have seen in the last couple of months than any protest or disturbances in my opinion.

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Disturbance during Memorial 2016.

by Ben131895 in

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two documented disturbances during memorial 2016. type 'memorial 2016' on youtube.

MarkofCane

These type of disturbances send them into cult mode, they have been warned that apostates would ridicule them and are spiritually diseased hateful people, 'the seed of Satan'. With one purpose to try to destroy Jehovah's organization here on earth. Your playing into there martyrdom syndrome, there suffering for Christ complex. It does not work!

I remember the guys outside the District Conventions they looked crazy not the type I would be compelled to listen to or approach. They fit the description and actions the society gave them so there was a sense of validation that this was supposed to happen and they would act and look the way they did,"crazy". Remember these poor people ( jw's) are filled with angels and demon complex. Storming the lines only makes them build stronger defenses. So relax and beat them at there own game, live a fantastic life and they will take notice.

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Why did I take the red pill?

by stephanie61092 in

ignorance really is bliss and reality is harsh.

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just having a bad, emotional day i suppose.

MarkofCane

We had a choice....or did we?

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I would rather be in the JW cult than the ex-jw cult

by questioningmyfaith in

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i have posted one other time on this website.

just for the mere fact that i wasn't anger and bitter and ready to declare the gb the sociopathic criminals that so many here ascribe to, my initial question digressed to bickering over ad hominem attacks against the gb and not my beliefs that i'm questioning.

some did give me some help on my questions.

MarkofCane

Every religion is a cult, Jesus was ( to some as they would believe, still is) the leader of the largest cult the world has ever seen. Muhammad more successful. When you have these organizations use malicious lies to control and subjugate there adherents, you then must fight fire with fire. You see strong words used to describe what people have gone through and you perhaps confuse that with a ttatt hate cult. But you are wrong, as extreme as the witness are we have no choice but to, say it like it is.

Look at what extreme cults are capable of, Belgium terrorist attacks an extreme veneration of an ideology. You think the witness aren't capable of such atrocities? Look at the blood mandate how many do you presume die each year? How about the Malawi registration cards little rule? Might not seem as extreme as a religious bomber ready to kill and die for his belief, but non the less people die because of a mandate demanded buy a cult. I think your rant is directed at the wrong group. Good luck to you Sir

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Am l the only one.?The older l become the more hostile l become towards god.

by atomant in

they say you mellow out with age.maybe so but not in my case.l feel its an insult and degrading to us humans to have to live the way we do if there is a god.deep down l guess l do believe theres a god but lm having great difficulty trying to understand why things are the way they are.l dont need a bible bashing from anyone l just feel frustrated and helpless.l just battle on like everyone else but l get the feeling theres a whole lot more to our existence.

MarkofCane

Bonsai

Older I get the more ornery I get and the less time I have for BS and fantasies.

Ya I can hardly sit through a meeting anymore it just racks me up to no end. Agitates me to the point, I fantasy about throat punching the speaker for spewing so much nonsense. I only believe in evidence, its the aftermath of leaving a cult. My wife calls me the "world renowned skeptic".

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I like the fact that XJW's are passionate about politics

by minimus in

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the fact is we could never talk about politics or of use toward political issues as witnesses now we can and we can disagree without being disagreeable .

MarkofCane

Being a witness for so long and not having a opinion my entire upbringing. (well I always had an opinion just was very selective with who I shared it with) I just wasn't passionate about politics I really believed that God Kingdom was mans only solution to all of our problems. So I'm still trying to figure it all out, meaning politics. Not even sure at time's if I'm a democrat, independent or republican? I'm thinking republican. I would like to vote but would create to many issues if the family found out. But soon enough, I will register and will cast my first ballot.

If you don't vote, then don't complain.

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Money....

by The Rebel in

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i believe all our worst nightmare are believing money will make our life's complete.

i am not talking about money providing life's comforts, but i am mortified that contentment and happiness always requires " more money"..ummm i need a window cleaner, a flashy car and a 50inch t.v screen to be happy.

money...well in my opinion we need money integrity to be happy, but it seems such a waste of life to search for the making of money more than ....well what i mean "hey" most of us have more money than most, and would the making or having more money really make you happier?.

MarkofCane

Rebel

I agree with your sentiments exactly. Residual income is how to build wealth, I'm a contractor, In my state when the economy took a dive we bought foreclosures many in my hall, where losing their homes or walking away from them after striping the equity out of them living above there means then, when there homes weren't worth what they owed, they walked. When they got word I was buying foreclosures they criticized, that I should be pioneering because the economy crashing was a sign that the political system was next and this system could not last, I was putting my faith in the wrong things. Well here we are 10 yrs later.

I do agree about not living a extravagant life, there's no need I have no one I need or want to impress. But we have what we need and we are all healthy. Family to me, is the most important thing, will always choose them over making money. Money = Tool is the best analogy, when you need it, it's invaluable if you don't have it, it causes a lot of hard work to achieve the same outcome.

If I lose it all! I don't worry I came from humble beginnings, I will always remember how to be poor.

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Money....

by The Rebel in

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i believe all our worst nightmare are believing money will make our life's complete.

i am not talking about money providing life's comforts, but i am mortified that contentment and happiness always requires " more money"..ummm i need a window cleaner, a flashy car and a 50inch t.v screen to be happy.

money...well in my opinion we need money integrity to be happy, but it seems such a waste of life to search for the making of money more than ....well what i mean "hey" most of us have more money than most, and would the making or having more money really make you happier?.

MarkofCane

I do agree money does not necessary bring you happiness. But let me say that as a witness we were always discouraged from having nice things or would criticize you as being materialistic, you couldn't take a nice vacation because others would make you feel guilty and say "must be nice that you can afford it"? Really instead of pioneering get a real job. Having money allows for experiences you would otherwise never have, allows you opportunities you would never have encountered. We work hard and play hard, no guilt anymore and no obligation to a man made cult. Making money is a statement to my former congregation and a testament that you can have a awesome life outside of there cult.

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"Don't make mountains out of molehills"

by stephanie61092 in

during the talk today, the speaker said, in reference to apostates, "don't make mountains out of molehills" and "all those who are do good to look up isaiah 43:18.

" to save you trouble, it says: "do not remember the former things, and do not dwell on the past.".

i'd like to see him read that scripture to the victims of the hundreds and hundreds of abuse cases the arc has unveiled from over the past 50 years.

MarkofCane

What else can they say? There congregants are leaving in droves, there bank accounts are drying up, there name is being dragged through the mud because of lawsuits namely because of the pedophile issue. There prophecy's are staring back at them, for many in there twilight years as complete lies, as a waste of there lives, so hard to face as reality so they prefer to remain in their delusion.

There children are leaving as soon as they have a say, there religion has become a mainstream religion, JW-org is a slap in the face to many who where told that the internet is Satan's playground....now what? Direct everyone to JW-org so their superstars have there day in the Limelight. The elderly are being pushed aside, they wants younger tech savvy cobe and elders, everyone has to own a tablet and understand how to use it....really my 79 year old mother needs to buy one, learn to use it, pay for internet and download all her study material to be able to receive gods food at the proper time and keep up with the blinking light? Because God cannot communicate with out internet now. There religion is a mountain of lies so what else can they say?