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  Today's Study - Shun Disfellowshipped Family, Don't Marry Outsiders, Tell On Others!

  by Divergent in

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  urghhh... what a disgusting study!7 a conflict of loyalties may arise when a close relative is disfellowshipped.

  for example, a sister named anne received a telephone call from her disfellowshipped mother.

  the mother wanted to visit anne because she felt pained by her isolation from the family.

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  That's why they keep drilling this into there heads.

  At that time, the lifesaving direction that we receive from Jehovah’s organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint. All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not. The elders must stand ready to help any who may now be wavering in their faith.” (w13 11/15 p.20)

  
  

  They are grooming the rank and file for stricter shunning policies. The internet is exposing so much of their lies and deception, they need to do damage control and information control. Keep the ignorant, ignorant.
  
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  Today's Study - Shun Disfellowshipped Family, Don't Marry Outsiders, Tell On Others!

  by Divergent in

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  urghhh... what a disgusting study!7 a conflict of loyalties may arise when a close relative is disfellowshipped.

  for example, a sister named anne received a telephone call from her disfellowshipped mother.

  the mother wanted to visit anne because she felt pained by her isolation from the family.

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  The Governing Body, Geoffrey Jackson assertively said at the ARC that they, do not ask their members to shun, that is not something we do.

  7 A conflict of loyalties may arise when a close relative is disfellowshipped. For example, a sister named Anne received a telephone call from her disfellowshipped mother. The mother wanted to visit Anne because she felt pained by her isolation from the family. Anne was deeply distressed by the plea and promised to reply by letter. Before writing, she reviewed Bible principles. (1 Cor. 5:11; 2 John 9-11) Anne wrote and kindly reminded her mother that she had cut herself off from the family by her wrongdoing and unrepentant attitude. “The only way you can relieve your pain is by returning to Jehovah,” Anne wrote. —Jas. 4:8.

  
  Ironic that the not covering up of wrongdoing is usually applied to those who have engaged in conduct that can hardly be considered as wrongdoing while those who have committed ACTUAL SERIOUS wrongdoing (eg: child abusers) have their wrongdoing covered up!

  Excellent point Divergent, Tell on your friends for having a little fun but STFU about the children getting abused! That's why we continue to expose them for what they are accomplices to a pedophile epidemic in Watchtower land!
  
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  what era do you feel like your starting out from?

  by sowhatnow in

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  anyone else feel like they were just woke up from a long coma?

  or emerged from a time capsule?.

  i mean seriously, its rather creepy and disturbing , some of us are at sea without a compass .. like an orphan, like someone said, , heres a birth certificate go find yourself.

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  Hi LisaRose

  Missed you, good to see you back.
  
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  what era do you feel like your starting out from?

  by sowhatnow in

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  anyone else feel like they were just woke up from a long coma?

  or emerged from a time capsule?.

  i mean seriously, its rather creepy and disturbing , some of us are at sea without a compass .. like an orphan, like someone said, , heres a birth certificate go find yourself.

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  Coming out of a coma is a good analogy. I sometime need to stop and figure out who, I really am and not just remnants of my cult personality coming through. Its like learning how to be a person again, how to be part of a wonderful global community. How to feel empathy for people and not chuck it up to Jehovah will take care of everything. I still tend to judge things for what I perceive them to be and not what they really are.Working on that!

  Its like waking up 40 years into the future, your life is gone, In a "blink of an Eye".
  
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  Be ready to obey!!

  by kairos in

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  http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20131115/seven-shepherds-eight-dukes/.

  from paragraph 17-. at that time, the life-saving direction that we receive from jehovah’s organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint.

  all of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not.. i think i know what the instructions will be.it's nothing new.

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  They already have - for all intents and purposes - a loyalty oath (in the form of the baptismal questions). Vidiot

  True but nothing like Jim Jones loyalty test. Check this out.
  

  Loyalty Test
  In anticipation of an assault, Jones had his followers practice revolutionary suicide, drinking from vats of flavored water which he announced was poisoned. When they survived the “poison” the residents realized it was another test of their loyalty and that they had passed.
  
  
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  Endure! Life is hard! Lost? We are Miserable ? Don't think so

  by ducatijoe in

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  its a rainy day and have been reading posts.. i would like to respond to the comments of those still in, post to those who have decided to leave.. what ever you have been told or may think about what will happen without "the truth" , is not true.

  my life without the wbts is fantastic.

  no stress, live in a beautiful place, great new friends and total peace of mind.

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  Positive post for a Sunday morning. Hope everyone had a awesome weekend.

  Remember to be happy, even if you have to schedule it.
  
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  Today's Text - Jehovah Is SPEEDING Up The Work!

  by Divergent in

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  today's text:.

  saturday, april 30. the little one will become a thousand and the small one a mighty nation.

  i myself, jehovah, will speed it up in its own time.—isa.

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  Demographic Study

  December 18, 2012

  The Global Religious Landscape

  Christians

  Christians number 2.2 billion, or about one-in-three (32%) people worldwide. About half of all Christians are Catholic (50%). An estimated 37% of Christians belong to the Protestant tradition, broadly defined to include Anglicans as well as independent and nondenominational churches. The Orthodox Communion, including the Greek and Russian Orthodox, make up 12% of Christians. And people who belong to other traditions that view themselves as Christian (including Christian Scientists, Mormons and Jehovah’s Witnesses) make up about 1% of the global Christian population.7

  Looks like Jehovah's witness are in last place 1% of the global Christian population. Statistically looks like God is with the Catholics. We need to start fact checking these truths!
  
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  Baby talk...

  by The Rebel in

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  gee reading my earliest posts, i feel i arrived here needing a head transplant.

  of course we can't ban our earliest posts, and we can't claim we were misquoted, but then again think about it, many of us come here with geoffrey jacksons brains and mind control ruling our thinking.. so i looked back at my earlier posts, and i imagined the man i was who made them.

  to be honest i hardly recognized him, i feel infinitely a better and wiser less pious now, however i i don't feel so clever nor do i have such a deep religious faith.. anyway, the thread was made because i have often read posters past threads in order to get to know them better, but it never occurred to me to read my own past threads, and i learnt i am glad i had the guts to make my earlier posts, but the person that made them is in the far distant past.

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  Hey Rebel

  If I would of posted when I first started to wake up, I would of come off as an apologist! Mind filled with fever like delusions. I'm so glad I waited for the fever to subside and logic to kick in. Now I probably just offend some with my remarks! I honestly would never say half the stuff I share here, I'd come off as extreme. Normally, I never talk about my faith or religion unless you insist.
  
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  Hello

  by WITNESS-FOR-WATCHTOWER-REFORM in

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  just to say a big hello.

  i have been reading this site for some time now and have been very unhappy with some of the things emanating from watchtower head quarters in new york.

  the final straw for me is the upcoming watchtower study this weekend encouraging us to shun our own family members (our own mothers if need be) if they are disfellowshipped....a step too far for my liking.

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  Hi WFWTR

  Good luck with that! I think you're wasting your time, I'm positive that, they know and have had closed doors meetings about their failed doctrines, inhumane dealings like shunning and how to deal with the rank and file leaving, (damages control). One measure they use to minimize damaging information is rewriting there literature, who do you think is behind that? Disfellowshipping & Shunning isn't so much to keep the congregation clean but to eliminate those that might expose their lies and questionable history. Silence the opposer, eliminate the information.

  You can't be under the impression that they don't know anything is wrong, that perhaps they have been deceived or are innocent victims themselves? Those type of letters serve one purpose, to keep the janitor busy emptying trash bins. You will have better success writing to Kim Jong-un, apparently he's holding 25 million people captive.

  Welcome to the forum and good luck
  
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  Be ready to obey!!

  by kairos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20131115/seven-shepherds-eight-dukes/.

  from paragraph 17-. at that time, the life-saving direction that we receive from jehovah’s organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint.

  all of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not.. i think i know what the instructions will be.it's nothing new.

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  Jim Jones moment, next thing you know they will have loyalty test. Cult alert!