Lol the ARC is/was not a judicial body. It was more or less the Australian version of a US Congressional hearing in which accusations, baseless or otherwise, are tossed about without consequences. They don’t have nearly the standards courts have.
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Newspaper reports: Dutch government will initiate inquiry into child abuse within JW community
by Anders Andersen intoday a dutch newspaper published an in-depth follow-up item on jw abuse issues.. the most interesting part of the article is this:.
the politicians also let themselves be heard.
a month ago the house of representatives voted unanimously in favor of a motion to enforce an independent inquiry into abuse within the jehovah's witnesses, as the organization refuses to initiate it.
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Newspaper reports: Dutch government will initiate inquiry into child abuse within JW community
by Anders Andersen intoday a dutch newspaper published an in-depth follow-up item on jw abuse issues.. the most interesting part of the article is this:.
the politicians also let themselves be heard.
a month ago the house of representatives voted unanimously in favor of a motion to enforce an independent inquiry into abuse within the jehovah's witnesses, as the organization refuses to initiate it.
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RV “believes”, as you just said. Just admit that they’re voicing their opinion(s). They are. And always have been.
Facts are not determined by popular opinion. RV can recruit a thousand people. In our civilized world, facts are determined by the court/legal system
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Newspaper reports: Dutch government will initiate inquiry into child abuse within JW community
by Anders Andersen intoday a dutch newspaper published an in-depth follow-up item on jw abuse issues.. the most interesting part of the article is this:.
the politicians also let themselves be heard.
a month ago the house of representatives voted unanimously in favor of a motion to enforce an independent inquiry into abuse within the jehovah's witnesses, as the organization refuses to initiate it.
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Sanch,
Anders comments were clear and can be summed up as:
RV doesn’t agree with how jws execute their policies.
Thats fine. That’s their opinion. And that’s basically the gist of their position.
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Newspaper reports: Dutch government will initiate inquiry into child abuse within JW community
by Anders Andersen intoday a dutch newspaper published an in-depth follow-up item on jw abuse issues.. the most interesting part of the article is this:.
the politicians also let themselves be heard.
a month ago the house of representatives voted unanimously in favor of a motion to enforce an independent inquiry into abuse within the jehovah's witnesses, as the organization refuses to initiate it.
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Cow, you missed my point. Note what I said:
”In the history of Jws”.
I was being more than fair to the Catholic Church. I simply used 400 priests from two locations (not the entire worldwide leadership of the Church) and compared that to the entire worldwide history of Jws.
So basically, you have 239 branch office areas, spanning 140 years with jws, compared with roughly 50 years, and an relative handful of Archdiocese, in only 2 locations with the Catholics.
So there are more pedo priests in Philly ALONE than there have ever been elders, Co’s Do’s in the 140 year world wide history of jws.
And still, the comparisons aren’t even close. So I understand why this upsets you.
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Newspaper reports: Dutch government will initiate inquiry into child abuse within JW community
by Anders Andersen intoday a dutch newspaper published an in-depth follow-up item on jw abuse issues.. the most interesting part of the article is this:.
the politicians also let themselves be heard.
a month ago the house of representatives voted unanimously in favor of a motion to enforce an independent inquiry into abuse within the jehovah's witnesses, as the organization refuses to initiate it.
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Lol
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Newspaper reports: Dutch government will initiate inquiry into child abuse within JW community
by Anders Andersen intoday a dutch newspaper published an in-depth follow-up item on jw abuse issues.. the most interesting part of the article is this:.
the politicians also let themselves be heard.
a month ago the house of representatives voted unanimously in favor of a motion to enforce an independent inquiry into abuse within the jehovah's witnesses, as the organization refuses to initiate it.
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In fact, the Russian ban has been in international news for over a year year now. The Russians never mention child abuse as a reason for the ban.
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Newspaper reports: Dutch government will initiate inquiry into child abuse within JW community
by Anders Andersen intoday a dutch newspaper published an in-depth follow-up item on jw abuse issues.. the most interesting part of the article is this:.
the politicians also let themselves be heard.
a month ago the house of representatives voted unanimously in favor of a motion to enforce an independent inquiry into abuse within the jehovah's witnesses, as the organization refuses to initiate it.
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Now exactly what authorities claims that, in your words, that child abusers can act with “impunity”?
Who said that? Who explicitly recognized this “fact”?
Now the ARC and IICSA are not authorities. They don’t have the power to make or enforce laws, nor can they prosecute. They offer corrective suggestions.
So basically an authority would be a court of law, or those who can enforce law.
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Newspaper reports: Dutch government will initiate inquiry into child abuse within JW community
by Anders Andersen intoday a dutch newspaper published an in-depth follow-up item on jw abuse issues.. the most interesting part of the article is this:.
the politicians also let themselves be heard.
a month ago the house of representatives voted unanimously in favor of a motion to enforce an independent inquiry into abuse within the jehovah's witnesses, as the organization refuses to initiate it.
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Cofty -
You’re merely making hot takes now. This is an issue of forced interpretation, or better stated, the philosophical debate on what policies mean.
That’s why the organization can release their standard statements, as they often do, to the media and move on.
As far as what we are known for, lol, you are really keeping Witnesses relevant. The more you talk about them, the more you validate them. It really doesn’t matter what you are saying, if doesn’t matter how people react — you are generating interests.
For example, Donald Trump says a lot of stupid things. He knows people won’t like it. And yet, the scandal-hungry media puts it in a headline and talk about it for days or weeks even. This is calculated and how he stays relevant.
There is a reason why the organization never mentions opposers by name, or mentions their websites. They just generalize the lies they tell. Why give them free publicity? You give Witnesses plenty of it!
Thats also why they don’t come out rebutting and refuting claims on a claim by claim basis. They release a statement. No need to do much more. The interests, whether positive or negative, is there already.
People can decide for themselves from that point on.
And there is this little tid-bit of info I forgot to mention. The Catholic Church just had almost 400 priests, a Cardlnal, and Bishop just in Washington, Philly, Chile and Australia alone resign because they were pedophiles. We are not talking lay people here — this is leadership and high ranking leadership.
That’s impunity. Find me 400 circuit overseers or elders in the entire history of Jws that were serial pedophiles.
Why do I mention them? Because they are the standard of abuse coverups. They are the mesuring stick.
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Newspaper reports: Dutch government will initiate inquiry into child abuse within JW community
by Anders Andersen intoday a dutch newspaper published an in-depth follow-up item on jw abuse issues.. the most interesting part of the article is this:.
the politicians also let themselves be heard.
a month ago the house of representatives voted unanimously in favor of a motion to enforce an independent inquiry into abuse within the jehovah's witnesses, as the organization refuses to initiate it.
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So Anderson,
It’s clearly evident that RV has made up their own version of JW policies and are knocking down their own strawhouse.
And you’ve made it aboundantly clear that this whole fisaco is really about RVs subjective interpretation of JW policies.
Since JWs disagree with RV and are the drafters of their own policies, they actually ARE the final authority on its application, intent, and interpretation.
This is really a waste of time. But still, this circus RV created will definitely be exposed.
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Newspaper reports: Dutch government will initiate inquiry into child abuse within JW community
by Anders Andersen intoday a dutch newspaper published an in-depth follow-up item on jw abuse issues.. the most interesting part of the article is this:.
the politicians also let themselves be heard.
a month ago the house of representatives voted unanimously in favor of a motion to enforce an independent inquiry into abuse within the jehovah's witnesses, as the organization refuses to initiate it.
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Lol RV has no priest-penitent relationship with those who report to them, so my point is that there is no legal reason (membership privacy rights) why they are withholding that information. Not that I’m aware of anyway.