Are non-ex jws reporting anything to RV? So who else are left?
Pay attention.
A straw man, is a misrepresentation of an argument, and a refutation of that misrepresentation.
You don’t know what the term means.
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Newspaper reports: Dutch government will initiate inquiry into child abuse within JW community
by Anders Andersen intoday a dutch newspaper published an in-depth follow-up item on jw abuse issues.. the most interesting part of the article is this:.
the politicians also let themselves be heard.
a month ago the house of representatives voted unanimously in favor of a motion to enforce an independent inquiry into abuse within the jehovah's witnesses, as the organization refuses to initiate it.
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Newspaper reports: Dutch government will initiate inquiry into child abuse within JW community
by Anders Andersen intoday a dutch newspaper published an in-depth follow-up item on jw abuse issues.. the most interesting part of the article is this:.
the politicians also let themselves be heard.
a month ago the house of representatives voted unanimously in favor of a motion to enforce an independent inquiry into abuse within the jehovah's witnesses, as the organization refuses to initiate it.
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Obviously, I mean that just because people say something is true, doesn’t make it true.
Reminds me — how many people said the earth was the center of the universe? Nearly all contemporary scientists? They had “proof” too; the Sun moved and the earth did not appear to be moving.
Again, facts ARE NOT determined by popular vote, nor by interpreting evidence based on your relative position.
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Newspaper reports: Dutch government will initiate inquiry into child abuse within JW community
by Anders Andersen intoday a dutch newspaper published an in-depth follow-up item on jw abuse issues.. the most interesting part of the article is this:.
the politicians also let themselves be heard.
a month ago the house of representatives voted unanimously in favor of a motion to enforce an independent inquiry into abuse within the jehovah's witnesses, as the organization refuses to initiate it.
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That’s what courts are for, to close “loopholes”. -
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Newspaper reports: Dutch government will initiate inquiry into child abuse within JW community
by Anders Andersen intoday a dutch newspaper published an in-depth follow-up item on jw abuse issues.. the most interesting part of the article is this:.
the politicians also let themselves be heard.
a month ago the house of representatives voted unanimously in favor of a motion to enforce an independent inquiry into abuse within the jehovah's witnesses, as the organization refuses to initiate it.
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So as far as a “legitimate” request is concerned, it’s illegitimate to request an independent investigation based on the words of former members.
So the decline was justified. Now it’s on the government to prove their investigation is justified. I can imagine that this will come before a judge.
It should. I hope it will.
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Newspaper reports: Dutch government will initiate inquiry into child abuse within JW community
by Anders Andersen intoday a dutch newspaper published an in-depth follow-up item on jw abuse issues.. the most interesting part of the article is this:.
the politicians also let themselves be heard.
a month ago the house of representatives voted unanimously in favor of a motion to enforce an independent inquiry into abuse within the jehovah's witnesses, as the organization refuses to initiate it.
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Anderson,
Thanks for that reply. The RCC knew they had a problem. Their admissions of failing children and hiding abusers proves they were lying the entire time. So I call bullocks on the idea that they didn’t “think they had a problem” until an inquiry took place. They knew.
Keep in mind, the RCCs issues are entirely different. The leadership being rife with pedophiles is not the same as regular members abusing children.
Its one thing for rank and file to have issues, it’s an entirely different thing when those charged with protecting the flock are hiding each other. Abuse goes even unreported to the church itself when that happens.
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Newspaper reports: Dutch government will initiate inquiry into child abuse within JW community
by Anders Andersen intoday a dutch newspaper published an in-depth follow-up item on jw abuse issues.. the most interesting part of the article is this:.
the politicians also let themselves be heard.
a month ago the house of representatives voted unanimously in favor of a motion to enforce an independent inquiry into abuse within the jehovah's witnesses, as the organization refuses to initiate it.
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Anderson.
How many child abuse cases were there in the Netherlands in the RCC?
How many child abuse cases were there in the Netherlands in WT?
Once you answer that, then you’ve answered why jws rejected the suggestion to investigate themselves.
Jws are forcing Dekker to and co to prove themselves.
This is exactly what’s needed.
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Newspaper reports: Dutch government will initiate inquiry into child abuse within JW community
by Anders Andersen intoday a dutch newspaper published an in-depth follow-up item on jw abuse issues.. the most interesting part of the article is this:.
the politicians also let themselves be heard.
a month ago the house of representatives voted unanimously in favor of a motion to enforce an independent inquiry into abuse within the jehovah's witnesses, as the organization refuses to initiate it.
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Well, Sanchy, get them into a court room, and testify. Their claims will be analyzed, against the actually written, practiced policies.
They have a lawyer. Just get it done.
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Newspaper reports: Dutch government will initiate inquiry into child abuse within JW community
by Anders Andersen intoday a dutch newspaper published an in-depth follow-up item on jw abuse issues.. the most interesting part of the article is this:.
the politicians also let themselves be heard.
a month ago the house of representatives voted unanimously in favor of a motion to enforce an independent inquiry into abuse within the jehovah's witnesses, as the organization refuses to initiate it.
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Lol the ARC is/was not a judicial body. It was more or less the Australian version of a US Congressional hearing in which accusations, baseless or otherwise, are tossed about without consequences. They don’t have nearly the standards courts have.
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Newspaper reports: Dutch government will initiate inquiry into child abuse within JW community
by Anders Andersen intoday a dutch newspaper published an in-depth follow-up item on jw abuse issues.. the most interesting part of the article is this:.
the politicians also let themselves be heard.
a month ago the house of representatives voted unanimously in favor of a motion to enforce an independent inquiry into abuse within the jehovah's witnesses, as the organization refuses to initiate it.
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RV “believes”, as you just said. Just admit that they’re voicing their opinion(s). They are. And always have been.
Facts are not determined by popular opinion. RV can recruit a thousand people. In our civilized world, facts are determined by the court/legal system
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Newspaper reports: Dutch government will initiate inquiry into child abuse within JW community
by Anders Andersen intoday a dutch newspaper published an in-depth follow-up item on jw abuse issues.. the most interesting part of the article is this:.
the politicians also let themselves be heard.
a month ago the house of representatives voted unanimously in favor of a motion to enforce an independent inquiry into abuse within the jehovah's witnesses, as the organization refuses to initiate it.
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Sanch,
Anders comments were clear and can be summed up as:
RV doesn’t agree with how jws execute their policies.
Thats fine. That’s their opinion. And that’s basically the gist of their position.