well the elders wanted to meet with the wife and i last week.
one of the elders i like, the other one i did not feel comfortable with.
so i told the wife this.
I DA'd, mainly so my friends around the country would know I left on my own initiative, and suspect that I was a heretic, rather than hearing DF, and assuming I'd been immoral. Because at the time, I hadn't been immoral!
Been making up for it ever since.
cheers,
Angus
about six years ago, when self-extricating myself from jehovah's witnesses, i decided to follow robert anton wilson's advice in cosmic trigger, a life changing book for me, and explore taboos as a way to rapidly deprogram myself.
tarot was a great way to do that, as few things are more odious in the jw world.
i wrote up my remarkable experiences in an essay on my blog, tarot & rapid brain change which will probably be interesting to jw forum readers.. .
Thansk very much, MJNM, I'm glad you liked my writing.
Hey Dave. No demons for me, but enough odd experiences to keep things interesting.
about six years ago, when self-extricating myself from jehovah's witnesses, i decided to follow robert anton wilson's advice in cosmic trigger, a life changing book for me, and explore taboos as a way to rapidly deprogram myself.
tarot was a great way to do that, as few things are more odious in the jw world.
i wrote up my remarkable experiences in an essay on my blog, tarot & rapid brain change which will probably be interesting to jw forum readers.. .
About six years ago, when self-extricating myself from Jehovah's Witnesses, I decided to follow Robert Anton Wilson's advice in Cosmic Trigger, a life changing book for me, and explore taboos as a way to rapidly deprogram myself. Tarot was a great way to do that, as few things are more odious in the JW world. I wrote up my remarkable experiences in an essay on my blog, Tarot & Rapid Brain Change which will probably be interesting to JW forum readers.
cheers,
Angus
"Change your world, change your beliefs."
during the several years my father spent dying of a stroke, i was still a jehovah's witness but i was starting to think.
a few months before he died (he eventually refused nourishment and basiclly took his own life) i finally da'd myself.
later, i made the connection between a friend's death that i witnessed in junior high school and my initial attraction to christianity.
Good for you Alpaca. I suppose there are other motivations—Buddhism in particular seems more about life now than life after death—many religions just seem to work that fear.
cheers,
Angus
"Change your beliefs, change your world."
during the several years my father spent dying of a stroke, i was still a jehovah's witness but i was starting to think.
a few months before he died (he eventually refused nourishment and basiclly took his own life) i finally da'd myself.
later, i made the connection between a friend's death that i witnessed in junior high school and my initial attraction to christianity.
Not quite the connection I was thinking of Black Sheep, but thanks for sharing! In my own case, quitting the JWs and getting divorced were strongly connected; of course, my wife didn't ask for a divorce herself, but she sure made my life miserable until I asked. And ultimately both were very good things—I now have a much more simpatico partner.
Maybe the first heart attack was telling you something?
Thanks for the post Satanus, and thanks for checking out my essay. As a JW, I felt there was subtle pressure to not grieve in some ways. Glad that's over. And glad you made some connection with your brother, even after his passing.
cheers,
Angus
"Change your beliefs, change your world."
during the several years my father spent dying of a stroke, i was still a jehovah's witness but i was starting to think.
a few months before he died (he eventually refused nourishment and basiclly took his own life) i finally da'd myself.
later, i made the connection between a friend's death that i witnessed in junior high school and my initial attraction to christianity.
During the several years my father spent dying of a stroke, I was still a Jehovah's Witness but I was starting to think. A few months before he died (he eventually refused nourishment and basiclly took his own life) I finally DA'd myself. Later, I made the connection between a friend's death that I witnessed in Junior High School and my initial attraction to Christianity. This insight led to an extended meditation on death and religion, which I've published here:
I guess I'm saying that one major impetus for getting out of a religion was a loved one's death, and that there is a connection between death and spiritual impulse. I think this connection is all too often exploited by religions, and certainly by JWs.
Your thoughts are always appreciated.
cheers,
Angus
Belief Systems & Other BS"Change your beliefs, change your world."
i used to lurk and comment here quite a bit six years ago, or so, when i was just getting out - this forum was a huge help.
i moved on i guess, but have always been grateful for all the good information and support.
anyway, one of the ways i coped with the transition to a more normal life was to write and produce a radio show in colorado that allowed me to work through a lot of issues.
i used to lurk and comment here quite a bit six years ago, or so, when i was just getting out - this forum was a huge help.
i moved on i guess, but have always been grateful for all the good information and support.
anyway, one of the ways i coped with the transition to a more normal life was to write and produce a radio show in colorado that allowed me to work through a lot of issues.
i used to lurk and comment here quite a bit six years ago, or so, when i was just getting out - this forum was a huge help.
i moved on i guess, but have always been grateful for all the good information and support.
anyway, one of the ways i coped with the transition to a more normal life was to write and produce a radio show in colorado that allowed me to work through a lot of issues.
Yeah, one really great thing is that I now write for a living, which is not something I was encouraged to do as a JW. But I took the plunge and it's worked out well. Bread and butter comes from corporate writing, infrastructure and geospatial firms, but I've also had a lot of creative work published.
Angus
i used to lurk and comment here quite a bit six years ago, or so, when i was just getting out - this forum was a huge help.
i moved on i guess, but have always been grateful for all the good information and support.
anyway, one of the ways i coped with the transition to a more normal life was to write and produce a radio show in colorado that allowed me to work through a lot of issues.
Thanks BY. I was kind of a hardcore, and married and all, but in one year I was able to change religions, careers, wives and states, and I have to say it was awesome. Waking up in midlife is very invigorating.
cheers,
Angus
