The Portuguese translation is accurate. It does mention that she was hit the day before her study.
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"Feeling sorry for yourself" about being hit by your husband is not Christian 2/15/12 WT Page 25 P 12
by yourmomma inhave anyone of you read, the absolutly jaw dropping paragraph in this article about a women who was hit by her husband?
its in page 25 of the 2/15/12 wt study edition (i read the dumbed down version).. .
if there was any question, that the watchtowers stance is for wives to simply take it when their husbands abuse them, this makes it crystal clear.. who the hell is scanning these things before they go to print?
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Family Worship Night percentages
by JRK ini am curious how many families actually do this, and how many lie and say they do.
i would guess it is less than 50%.
i would say it is a good night for tv.. jk.
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someonesomewhere
We never do it in my family, but my mother feels bad about it everytime they bring it up in meetings. Then she forges about it again since I show little interest, my brother (despite being a MS) shows little interest, and we all have conflicting schedules.
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Was The Internet The Clincher For You To Mentally Leave The Organization?
by minimus ini think it was for me.. i knew a lot of the history of the bible students, russell, rutherford and the "old light".
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once i could see all of the overwhelming evidence right in front of my eyes, there was no ignoring the reality..
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someonesomewhere
Hm, yes. It helped a lot.
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Welcome Newbies & New Posters ! How has this Board Assisted You ?
by flipper init's nice to have you here !
i found that this board was very supportive when i first got on it over 4 years ago .
i still find it supportive !
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someonesomewhere
I'm practically just a reader, not really a poster, but knowing in such detail what exactly is wrong in the organization and how people have been dealing with it has been very helpful for me. I am still an active JW, but I know I will get out of there "soon". Reading all of you has helped me sort out a good plan, in order to leave with the least amount of damage possible, both for myself and for my two JW relatives. One does have to filter through a lot of hatred, since it makes some of you less objective or logical. Still, it's good that people can vent out and share their pains (and also the joys of living a new and freer lifestyle).
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Is this Watchtower comment about the Slave a lie?
by jwfacts inin the question from readers, watchtower 2011 8/15 p. 22 it made the following comment:.
"we thus have no way of knowing the exact number of anointed ones on earth; nor do we need to know.
the governing body does not keep a list of all partakers, for it does not maintain a global network of anointed ones.".
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someonesomewhere
( So, an intro, since this is my first post: Erm... hi. I've recently hit 19 yo, and I'm a born-in JW, baptised at 13, who is still active in the organization, along with my mother and a cousin who lives in my territory. My father and older sister never joined the faith, although they definitely respect it. Hm... I've never let go of my freedom to think critically, although I certainly never felt encouraged to share my questions/opinions on relevant spiritual matters. This forum seems to be a good place to actually do it, but I wish it had more active JWs participating in the debates and defending themselves logically against the accusations you post over here, to make this fairer. On the other hand, the fact that the Governing Body orders witnesses not to read any kind of website/magazine/etc that critiques JWs and not to discuss with apostates in any occasion - plus, the fact that the JWs, generally, obey - makes me wonder how false are the widespread accusations against the WT Society. )
Reading that they do not have a list of who's participating in the celebrations turned on a red light in my mind. My questions (which might have been asked before; sorry about that):
* If they don't know at all who's claiming to be annointed, how do they consult them when it comes to current beliefs and possible future changes, since, according to the Bible, the entire slave class has the responsibility of taking care of the great crowd and of the organization as a whole?
* If they don't know at all who's claiming to be annointed, how can they choose the brothers that become part of the Governing Body?
* Where did they get the idea of creating a Governing Body in the first place (I couldn't find any information about that in WT's 2010 Library and I don't recall ever hearing the brothers explain the reasons for creating a GB)?
* How can the Governing Body claim that it represents the entire slave class if they don't know (nor do they need to, in their own words) who's in that class? The President of a country only represents it because he was chosen to do it by a majority of the population. In this case, I don't think the slave class had any opportunity to vote, recommend someone, or anything else that would make this a fair decision with everybody's input allowed.
Hm, I asked a servant in my congregation, who I'm good friends with, why wouldn't the GB want to know who's partaking (I asked him in a way that wouldn't make him think I'm questioning my faith or whatever, and I'm sure he bought it). This servant started by saying that the GB is not entirely composed of annointed brothers; he said it also had highly spiritual people from the great crowd. In the same second, I showed him a Watchtower magazine saying the GB only had annointed brothers, and he immediately looked pretty puzzled and was clearly trying to come up with a good answer fast to cover up his crazy mistake. Eventually, he said it's because the annointed are so spread out in the world that it would be really hard to contact all of them. Besides, since many of them could be lying about their annointed condition, they wouldn't risk contacting people with bad intentions. He then said that the GB has only got real annointed ones. I didn't say anything else, but I wonder how can anyone distinguish between really annointed and falsely annointed if, in every case, it is entirely a personal matter that should not be judged by anyone except for Jehovah. I also wonder where is the basis for his answer. It looked like he made it up in the moment. Anyway, after watching him display complete ignorance on such an important concept (the elements of the GB), nothing he said could convince me. Knowing that much and still being a servant? Wow. Guys, I need your help. Things like this and people like that servant prove to me that I won't be able to be a JW for the rest of my life.