Hi BobsGirl,
maybe I can help while hawk isn't there. I had some fights, too, and I believe that I am very familiar with this issue...
HappyDay!!
hawkaw,.
i am in the middle of round two of the un debate with my family and am making some progress.
would you please email me so that i can ask you a couple of questions about documentation.
Hi BobsGirl,
maybe I can help while hawk isn't there. I had some fights, too, and I believe that I am very familiar with this issue...
HappyDay!!
hello everyone,.
does anyone have any information on the court proceedings for the rutherford imprisonment?.
pureheart
Amazing,
what u say is interesting.
Please share the results of your little research with us, ok?
well, i read something about, but i have no link nor further details.
Thank u Joseph, for your comment.
I'm looking forward to see that Universalists Answer.
Happy Day!!
well, i read something about, but i have no link nor further details.
Hi Folks,
you are working hard at chritsmass, indeed.
This is the 1st time in life I celebrated christmass.
And there are some guys who are responsible for it:
1st Lee Elder and Osarsif
And Kent Steinhaug, Randy Watters and last but not least Hawkaw.
(Hi hawk- please tell at home about THIS result you had...!)
Of course there are many others like some germans (H.J. Twisselmann, Hajo Kammer and Stephan Wolf). Of course RAY FRANZ, too. Not to speak about those wounderfull articles written by Alan Feuerbacher and N. Haughland...
Now there is this Interfaith oportunity. God, I wish u guys can make something out of it. Over here in Europe I am watching and hoping. May Santa Claus bless u all!!!
Happy Day!
hi there.... ...in europe and the us oficially nobody has to pay to get wt literature.
we all know how it works.
but many times it was said that there are 3rd world countries or others who go on in selling the literature as usuall.. i ask everybody to tell here wich countries have the new simplification (not that new anymore, but however)and wich countries do not have this "simplification" yet.. i do the beginning:.
thank u farkel
please, everybody who knows a country where in 2000 or 2001 publications were sold tell us here.
hi there.... ...in europe and the us oficially nobody has to pay to get wt literature.
we all know how it works.
but many times it was said that there are 3rd world countries or others who go on in selling the literature as usuall.. i ask everybody to tell here wich countries have the new simplification (not that new anymore, but however)and wich countries do not have this "simplification" yet.. i do the beginning:.
Hi there...
...in Europe and the US oficially nobody has to pay to get WT literature. We all know how it works.
But many times it was said that there are 3rd world countries or others who go on in selling the literature as usuall.
I ask everybody to tell here wich countries have the new simplification (not that new anymore, but however)and wich countries do not have this "simplification" yet.
I do the beginning:
Literature "for free" in
Germany
UK
France
Portugal
(By the way, when u visit IBSA house in UK u have to pay the Postcards but not so in Germany.
Merry Christmass...
...WOW...this was my very 1st time!!!!!!
well, i read something about, but i have no link nor further details.
Thanks Dino and thanks hawk!
Hawk I will mail u privately as I have your adress again. Thank u for mailing it to me...
Dino, I wish u success with this. I am VERY interested in news about that.
Happy (Holly) Day
well, i read something about, but i have no link nor further details.
Well, I read something about, but I have no link nor further details.
ive found the un affiliation threads very interesting, but ive also expressed the view that this issue will have virtually no effect on jw membership.
i have at least two reasons for believing this.. first, after reading w. j. schnells 1957 book, thirty years a watchtower slave, in which the author describes how the watchtower used negative publicity to increase membership, im now of the opinion that continued commentary on this matter may only serve to foster an even greater conviction on the part of rank and file jws that they are being persecuted, and they will increase their efforts to recruit members; this will offset what i think will be a miniscule number of defections by those who will feel betrayed because of the un affiliation.
the reason why i think there will be few defections is described below.. second, i believe that the watchtower can easily defend itself.
Joseph,
I undestand your point.
But please face the facts:
I already deprogramed 3 family members and 2 others STARTING with the UN Scandal. Of course JW don't WANT to believe this scandal and WHEN there will be an oficiall response from the WTBTS it will be harder to argu with SOME of them. But we have all those letters, wich show the WTBTS started lying about this issue...
Remember the letter of the portuguese branch, the Gillies-Letter, the Haedquarters-to-Branches letter....
It may be more difficult as the time goes by, but it continues to be a shocking news for JW. LETS USE AND ABUSE IT!!!
at xjw net was an invitation to participate in a press release about the un stuff.. as i told before on this board this issue is most powerfull if well used to show the real face behind the wtbts!!.
even i am not in the us i will gladly contribute for a press release wich states a mix of un/ajwrb/silentlambs.
if some with more language skills than me composes such a press release and releases it in the way mike pence described i will donate 150 usd one or two weeks before the release.. it is tecnically dificult to donate from this distance.
Hi Cat,
if u take a look at the 2 big threads about UN (go to stats, there u see the biggest threads) u will find plenty of evidence. The WTBTS itself say they where associated. Of course we should see if there explanation fits...wich it does not.
Good Luck!