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  Would You Have Agreed to Get Baptized IF:

  by Perry in

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  they would have told you beforehand that jesus was not your mediator?.

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  HarryMac

  Yeah, I wasn't overly concerned with any details either. Believed it, signed up, it was the right thing to do. That attitude doesn't cut it in the real world with contract law... but hey... I was young... they like 'em young!
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  Are you thankful to know TTAT or not?

  by laverite in

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  2. beliefs

  i am so thankful that i was able to learn the truth about the truthtm (ttatt).

  i owe everything in my life to having left watchtower corp: my education, my position as a college professor, being able to write and publish, travel, family life, my beautiful children, being able to be openly gay -- and happy.

  unlike those closeted homosexuals in the truthtm, i do not have to be afraid to be who i am.

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  HarryMac

  The idea of 'unlearning' and going back is unthinkable. But, you made me think about it for a second, really weird mental exercise. So now it's just ridiculous.... I'd never want to go back to that half-life!
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  Shocking talk from 2013 District Convention urges parents to shun disfellowshipped children

  by cedars in

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yldwe_6jsu.

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  HarryMac

  Thanks Cedars.

  Hard to listen to that 'tone' after so many years... it's still the same.

  I didn't like at all the dumb voice he made when immitating those asking a legitimate question:

  "I thought you were Christian and you don't talk to your children!?"

  It's a valid question dumbass... lose the attitude.

  Also:

  Do play the blame game:

  You really should ask yourself if you are at fault here for adhering to this policy. You are! For real! That's the real truth.

  Finally, the idea that somebody would come up to you and chastise you for speaking to them when they were disfellowshipped the night they were reinstated... that made me smile. Not in a thousand years would that happen. Making people have fear of the future over something like that - that would almost certainly never happen - err, reaching much?

  Man, is it just me, his voice is so annoying!

  I can't believe how normal I turned out after subjecting myself to these kinds of 'talks'. I'm so happy to be out!
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  NY Times article: On Gay priests, Pope Francis asks, "Who am I to judge?"

  by adamah in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  from ny times:.

  rome for generations, homosexuality has largely been a taboo topic for the vatican, ignored altogether or treated as an intrinsic moral evil, in the words of the previous pope.

  in that context, brief remarks by pope francis suggesting that he would not judge priests for their sexual orientation, made aboard the papal airplane on the way back from his first foreign trip, to brazil, resonated through the church.

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  HarryMac

  I liked the comment I read on the BBC HYS...

  ~ "Who is he to judge anybody? He's just another bloke with an imaginary friend"

  Can he get an 'Amen'? .... oh yeah.
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  Happiness/unhappiness

  by lostinthought in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was told by a family member the other day "if you want to leave jehovah, go ahead.

  but don't think you'll ever be happy.

  all the people i know who have left got burned by the world and they come back to the truth".

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  HarryMac

  Driving up to the Kingdom Hall on Saturday morning to go in service with people that were so much more difficult than the people I worked with made me miserable. Actually, I often felt miserable when pulling into the parking lot of meetings, period.

  The comments you heard definately fall into the 'You need to believe that, don't you?' category.
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  Are Jehovahs Witnesses a Cult?

  by The Quiet One in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  http://sianrose.wordpress.com/2011/07/15/are-jehovahs-witnesses-a-sect-or-a-cult/.

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  HarryMac

  I've been calling it a cult a lot lately.. so, yeah, it must be.

  Seriously though, it had a much bigger and negative impact on my life than the kids who said "I'm an Anglican".
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  The more time I spend with "worldly people" the more I realize...

  by confusedandalone in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ... that they actually have more of a desire to get to knoww you then jehovah's witnesses.

  for years at the kingdom hall although i was an elder everyone "knew of me" but no one knew me.

  i realized that i never really had a friend who knew anything about me as a person or my background.

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  HarryMac

  "they didn't know me... they knew of me"...

  Yeah, Kingdom Halls are a place to 'be seen'.
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  Another Suicide

  by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  there wouldn't have been any good way to hear the news i suppose.

  it's just so strange to recall the conversation yesterday.

  my "still in" parents are with me and my inactive sister having a pleasant conversation.

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  HarryMac

  Sorry for your loss Billy.
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  Fastest growing Religious group in the USA is "None of the above" it is "No Religion'.

  by jam in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  have anyone read this report published by jonathan.

  turley in oct. 10, 2012 ?

  don't know his credentials or.

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  HarryMac

  Thanks. Framing it this way has put me in a better mood. Even 'normal' Christians wear me down. Nice to see it all on the decline.
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  So where else can we go?

  by Julia Orwell in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  no, i'm not misquoting peter talking to jesus again, or relating a conversation i had with a jw.. i'm asking something a little different.. i began my fade in jan this year and completed it at the memorial on 26th march.

  since learning ttatt and becoming mentally free, my depression has improved, i see colours better, and my anxiety issues have dissolved.

  i returned to teaching high school after years away from it, and am a substitute teacher at some local schools.

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  HarryMac

  At this point in your journey away from the JW's you might be at the point that this can be said... 'The Honeymoon is over'. I'm saying this with kindness. All that freedom, and learning TTATT, etc... wild ride! A total trip. The dust settles and quiet contemplation of your losses can happen more easily. I still have it happen to me... though less frequently and intensely as time goes on. The big thing to remember is that it gets easier.... and easier.