Doing the sums, some of us can never retire. We will have to die with our boots on, which is not a bad thing. To continue with work and projects, keeps one out of mischief.
Posts by Vidqun
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Now that we plan for Retirement
by designs inone of the big adjustments for many of us was growing older and realizing retirement was a reality.
did you have a company or government retirement package or personal ira or 401k.
what advice would you give the 20 to 60 year olds coming to term with 'life in this system'..
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Vidqun
The Jewish religious leaders did view the Christians as a cult. They were a break-away group from Judaism, with a man as leader. The Pharisee Gamaliel suggested a test. He mentioned a certain Theudas, as well as Judas the Galilean, both with a substantial following. Both were overthrown. If Jesus' disciples followed their example, they would be overthrown. If from God, they would not be overtrown (cf. Acts 5:34-39).
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Is Biblical Morality Situational, Based Upon the Arbitrary Whims of Yahweh?
by leavingwt inis biblical morality situational, based upon the arbitrary whims of yahweh?
murder is wrong... if god orders it however, then murder is right, and failing to murder is a sin.. .
exodus 20:13 versus 1 samuel 15:1, 7-11. .
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Vidqun
I believe morality to be based to a large degree on common sense. But that's looking at things from a human perspective. If God did exist, his morality would differ from ours, because he would view things from a different vantage point.
The situation of the Israelite tribes/nomads would have been unique. They had to survive in a hostile environment. Certainly, it would have been a case of survival of the fittest. They believed they had Yahweh fighting for them, and that they had the edge over their rivals. However, it would be unreasonable to compare or measure their morality to 21st century morality. Different time, different situation, different morality.
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Crisis of Conscience Chapter 6: Double Standards
by Celestial inthe pdf of crisis of conscience is available online.
i jumped to chapter 6, double standards and examined the situation regarding jehovah's witnesses position in malawi and the mandatory requirement to buy a malawi congress party (mcp) card.
i may have missed something, but it should be glaringly obvious what took place here.
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Vidqun
Yes, I agree with Alanv. One must be consistent. Paul says if the bugle gives an indistinct call, how will the soldiers know to ready themselves for battle? Good example of the child, Alanv. Similarly with the UN, described as "the disgusting thing causing desolation", and "the beast out of the abyss" in the literature. The R&F is constantly hammered with becoming a friend of the world, thus an enemy of God. But then it's all right to become a NGO in order to acquire a library card? Or become an NGO (in other countries) to do good and help the brothers? One elder told me that a lot of funds is made available for relief efforts. To benefit from these funds, one must be an NGO. That's what I call double standards.
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Is Biblical Morality Situational, Based Upon the Arbitrary Whims of Yahweh?
by leavingwt inis biblical morality situational, based upon the arbitrary whims of yahweh?
murder is wrong... if god orders it however, then murder is right, and failing to murder is a sin.. .
exodus 20:13 versus 1 samuel 15:1, 7-11. .
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Vidqun
Cofty, that's how it works on earth. Why not elsewhere?
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Is Biblical Morality Situational, Based Upon the Arbitrary Whims of Yahweh?
by leavingwt inis biblical morality situational, based upon the arbitrary whims of yahweh?
murder is wrong... if god orders it however, then murder is right, and failing to murder is a sin.. .
exodus 20:13 versus 1 samuel 15:1, 7-11. .
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Vidqun
It is not that a difficult a concept to grasp. If God is the Boss, anything he says, goes. If He did create the universe, then he's the man. Anyone that doesn't toe the line, he could squash like an ant. We worry about a flare from the sun (hitting Thursday). If God is the Creator, he's the one we should be worrying about.
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Vidqun
MsGG20, perhaps at this stage you should ask, Was this the Truth? Is it still the Truth? One of the identifying marks of the true religion (according to Jesus) is unselfish principled love amongst God's people (cf. John 13:35). Do you see it? What about the fruits of the spirit according to Gal. 5:22, 23? Are they there or are they missing? If missing, Why? What's the problem?
Could this be the reason? Read Matt. 24:15 and Mark 13:14. According to current Watchtower theology, what does it mean? Here's two Watchtower articles dealing with the subject:
*** World Government (1977) go chap. 9 p. 152 par. 9 The “Sign” of Imminence of the World Government
***We have also observed the “placing of the disgusting thing that is causing desolation” in the ‘setting up’ of a man-made substitute for God’s Messianic kingdom, namely, the League of Nations, in 1919 , and its successor, the United Nations, in 1945. (Matthew 24:4-15; Daniel 12:11)
*** w99 5/1 p. 17 par. 16 “Let the Reader Use Discernment” *** Since the start of the great tribulation is yet future, is the “standing in a holy place” still ahead of us? Evidently so. While “the disgusting thing” made its appearance early in this century and has, thus, existed for decades, it will take a position in a unique way “in a holy place” in the near future.
Have you seen "the disgusting thing" standing in a holy place, where it ought not? How serious are the Society about their interpretation of the Bible? Are they living up to it? They expect the R&F to live up to to it. Judge for yourself.
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Who Knows The Exact Current Interpretation of "Generation" Please!
by Bubblegum Apotheosis inwould someone please explain the current interpretation of the generation.
this topic is one that is causing alot of confussion and turmoil.
jwn, you.
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Vidqun
Interesting to see what Webster had to say about the English noun "generation". The JW interpretation should be added:
gen•er•a•tion \ ?je-n?-'ra-sh?n \ n
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1a: a body of living beings constituting a single step in the line of descent from an ancestor
b: a group of individuals born and living contemporaneously
c: a group of individuals having contemporaneously a status (as that of students in a school) which each one holds only for a limited period
d: a type or class of objects usu. developed from an earlier type first of the…new generation of powerful supersonic fighters —Kenneth Koyen >
2a: the action or process of producing offspring : procreation
b: the process of coming or bringing into being generation of income >
c: origination by a generating process : production esp: formation of a geometric figure by motion of another
3: the average span of time between the birth of parents and that of their offspring — gen•er•a•tion•al \ -shn?l, -sh?-n ? l \ adj — gen•er•a•tion•al•ly \ -shn?-le, sh?-n ? l-e \ adv
Merriam-Webster, I. (2003). Merriam-Webster's collegiate dictionary. (Eleventh ed.). Springfield, Mass.: Merriam-Webster, Inc.
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Who Knows The Exact Current Interpretation of "Generation" Please!
by Bubblegum Apotheosis inwould someone please explain the current interpretation of the generation.
this topic is one that is causing alot of confussion and turmoil.
jwn, you.
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Vidqun
Sorry for the repetition all. Just to drive the point home.
* ** w10 4/15 pp. 10-11 pars. 13-14 Holy Spirit's Role in the Outworking of Jehovah's Purpose ***Jesus' anointed followers, both in the first century and in our day, would be the ones who would not only see the sign but also discern its meaning - that Jesus "is near at the doors." 14 What does this explanation mean to us? Although we cannot measure the exact length of "this generation," we do well to keep in mind several things about the word "generation" : It usually refers to people of varying ages whose lives overlap during a particular time period ; it is not excessively long; and it has an end. (Ex. 1:6) How, then, are we to understand Jesus ' words about "this generation"? He evidently meant that the lives of the anointed who were on hand when the sign began to become evident in 1914 would overlap with the lives of other anointed ones who would see the start of the great tribulation. That generation had a beginning, and it surely will have an end. The fulfillment of the various features of the sign clearly indicate that the tribulation must be near.
The Greek word rendered "generation" in the Bible has been defined as, "Those born at the same time.... Associated with this is the meaning: the body of one’s contemporaries, an age." (The New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology) "The sum total of those born at the same time, expanded to include all those living at a given time generation, contemporaries." (A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament from Walter Bauer’s Fifth Edition, 1958) These definitions embrace both those born around the time of a historic event and all those alive at that time.
[Jesus looks upon the whole contemp. generation of Jews as a uniform mass confronting him] To complete above quote.
NWT Exodus 1:6 Eventually Joseph died, and also all his brothers and all that generation.
NWT Matthew 24:34 Truly I say to YOU that this generation (not “these generations”) will by no means pass away until all these things occur.
Balz-Schneider Lexicon (EDNT)
For Mark 8:12 only the final judgment awaits the condemned Israel of the time of Jesus . Thus in 8:38 he calls it an adulterous and sinful generation. Consequently in an apocalyptic threatening word 13:30 affirms, along with Matt 24:34 and Luke 21:32, that this generation must experience the horrors of the end time . Luke 17:25 connects this with the fixed plan of God promised in Scripture. Mark 9:19 has Jesus sigh in exasperation over this evil (even perverse, according to Matt 17:17 and Luke 9:41) generation.
Djeggnog, p erhaps the Society should have stayed with the God’s written word within its context, without adding unnecessary embellishments. One cannot read into above quotes, “the body of one’s contemporaries” + “those born at the same time” [NIDNTT] = people of varying ages whose lives overlap during a particular time period, i.e.,the lives of the anointed who were on hand when the sign began to become evident in 1914 would overlap with the lives of other anointed ones who would see the start of the great tribulation [Watchtower]. Here the 1 st century context is quite clear, as discussed. Jesus’ generation would be punished in the near future, in fact 37 years from the time he spoke those words. Anything in addition to that, should be ascribed to an overactive imagination or plain dishonesty.
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convincing someone to live
by emanresu ini was wondering if you could help me out.. tomorrow, i will be visiting a jw and i learned that she has anemia and has been given 4 months to live.
i really care for this person who i've only seen about 3 times.
on every visit i've made, she seems to be drunk (probably because of all the stress) and she has mentioned a couple of times that she "wants to die for god".
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Vidqun
Different reasons for anemia: 1) Losing more RBC (red blood cells) than you produce, e.g., excessive bleeding or hemolysis. 2) Producing too little RBC. 3) RBC production diminishing.
Classification: Normocytic anemia, e.g., cells broken down by radiation, toxins. Macrocytic anemia. RBC abnormally enlarged because of a shortage of folic acid and vit. B12. Microcytic anemia, cells are small, because of a lack of iron.
Depending on which one she has, there are effective treatments available for most of them.