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by sseveninches in

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hi guys,.

i call myself a lurker, but it's really been a short time since i've known about this site...it's only been five days.

i discovered this site while doing personal research on the topics of porneia, oral sex, and mutual masturbation, and found a thread on this site about it.

We have also observed the “placing of the disgusting thing that is causing desolation” in the ‘setting up’ of a man-made substitute for God’s Messianic kingdom, namely, the League of Nations, in 1919, and its successor, the United Nations, in 1945. (Matthew 24:4-15; Daniel 12:11)

w99 5/1 p. 17 par. 16 “Let the Reader Use Discernment”

Since the start of the great tribulation is yet future, is the “standing in a holy place” still ahead of us? Evidently so. While “the disgusting thing” made its appearance early in this century and has, thus, existed for decades, it will take a position in a unique way “in a holy place” in the near future.

Disgusting Thing Taking Up A Unique Position

When did “the disgusting thing causing desolation” take up a unique position?

To see this, one needs discernment. Not all will see it. On 8 October 2001 the UK-based newspaper The Guardian broke the story of the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society of New York enjoying associate member status of the UN’s Department of Information (DPI). Commenting on the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society of New York having been a Non Governmental Organization (NGO) of the UN DPI, Paul Hoeffel, Chief of the NGO section of the Department of Information, reports: “This organization applied for association with DPI in 1991 and was granted association in 1992. By accepting association with DPI, t

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Lurker's first post

by sseveninches in

jw
friends

hi guys,.

i call myself a lurker, but it's really been a short time since i've known about this site...it's only been five days.

i discovered this site while doing personal research on the topics of porneia, oral sex, and mutual masturbation, and found a thread on this site about it.

Vidqun

Doing it in installments.

Disgusting Thing Causing Desolation

NWT Matthew 24:15 Therefore, when YOU catch sight of the disgusting thing that causes desolation, as spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in a holy place, (let the reader use discernment,)

NWT Mark 13:14a However, when YOU catch sight of the disgusting thing that causes desolation standing where it ought not (let the reader use discernment),

World Government (1977) go, chap. 9, p. 152, par. 9: “The “Sign” of Imminence of the World Government”

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Lurker's first post

by sseveninches in

jw
friends

hi guys,.

i call myself a lurker, but it's really been a short time since i've known about this site...it's only been five days.

i discovered this site while doing personal research on the topics of porneia, oral sex, and mutual masturbation, and found a thread on this site about it.

Vidqun

Sorry, a compatibility glitch. Here's the rest.

w95 9/1 16

Looking forward especially to our time, Jesus said: “This good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.” (Matthew 24:14; Mark 13:10) Has this prophecy been fulfilled? Indeed, it has. From a small start in 1919, the preaching of the good news has now been extended to more than 230 countries. The witness is heard in the frozen North and in the steaming tropics. Large continents are covered, and remote islands are sought out so that their inhabitants can receive a witness.

Prophetic fulfillment: 1919 – 1990

Disgusting Thing Causing Desolation

NWT Matthew 24:15 Therefore, when YOU catch sight of the disgusting thing that causes desolation, as spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in a holy place, (let the reader use discernment,)

NWT

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Lurker's first post

by sseveninches in

jw
friends

hi guys,.

i call myself a lurker, but it's really been a short time since i've known about this site...it's only been five days.

i discovered this site while doing personal research on the topics of porneia, oral sex, and mutual masturbation, and found a thread on this site about it.

Vidqun

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Lurker's first post

by sseveninches in

jw
friends

hi guys,.

i call myself a lurker, but it's really been a short time since i've known about this site...it's only been five days.

i discovered this site while doing personal research on the topics of porneia, oral sex, and mutual masturbation, and found a thread on this site about it.

Vidqun

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Quake reveals day of Jesus' crucifixion

by Vidqun in

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47555983/ns/technology_and_science-science/.

"when data about the jewish calendar and astronomical calculations are factored in, a handful of possible dates result, with friday, april 3, 33, being the best match, according to the researchers.

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Vidqun

Heathen, I agree. As with most historical happenings, one needs to assemble the pieces, like a puzzle. After bringing them together, the picture you get hopefully makes sense. But whatever result, there is no guarantee that it is not necessarily right. It might even be distorted, because we just do not have all the pieces. As you remarked, each one must put the pieces together for himself to form a personalized opinion and build his/her own belief system (or not).

mP, I get the impression you distrust everything the Bible says. Don't you think that's going overboard. Add archeaological. geological, geographical, historical and linguistic evidence to the mix, then there are a lot of facts one can use to build upon. The textual critic insists on taking the Bible as they would any historical work and study it from that perspective. They look into the nature and origin of all the witnesses of a Bible book, describing how the texts were written, changed and transmitted. A lot of editing has gone into it some of the books. But what constitutes the original text is up to debate. My point is: We've got a lot to work with. You sift through the evidence, and you keep the gold nuggets. The rest you reject. Concerning the resurrection, as I have said before, I work on the premise that where there is smoke, there is a fire.

Leolaia, thanks for going to the trouble of explaining. Now those of us interested in the subject will have to try and assimilate all that. As a Witness I always steered clear of the apocryphicle and pseudo-apocryphical works, but I see it is worth while to see what these have to say (as additional witnesses). Because they are not incorporated in the canon, does not mean that they have no value. One that I am going to make a point of looking into is the book of Jubilees that often cropped up in the DSS. Because of the number of copies in their library, the Qumran inhabitants viewed it as important. Also interesting to see that the Christian version is different with a few additions.

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I used to be a JW! Shocking, I know

by NewChapter in

it's true.

i used to be a jw.

i was duped.

Vidqun

NewChapter, I view it like this. One has built up a stock of knowledge thus far. The foundation is there. Now one builds on that. If parts of the foundation are shaky, rebuild. Just make sure you don't redo the whole foundation at once. Then the whole house comes tumbling down.

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Simple answer, please! Scientifically explain the origin of life coming from nothing!

by Silent_Scream in

scientific method asserts nothing living can come from something non-living.

science is observable, science is reproducible.

a living thing coming from non-living matter has never been observed nor reproduced.. therefore, it takes faith in an unknown process to believe that that's exactly what happened in the beginning, with no evidence!.

Vidqun

NewChapter, I viewed it from a survivalist point-of-view. Rather not waste time in trying to create a new form of life in order to survive. You will use what you know and what you have, hypothetically, of course.

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Quake reveals day of Jesus' crucifixion

by Vidqun in

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47555983/ns/technology_and_science-science/.

"when data about the jewish calendar and astronomical calculations are factored in, a handful of possible dates result, with friday, april 3, 33, being the best match, according to the researchers.

".

Vidqun

mP, different eye witness accounts, different versions. Each witness saw it from a different perspective. The MS are quite uniform in their renderings. There are many differences in spelling, but few major theological changes have been made. Most of these occur in the miniscules, often where a footnote is incorporated in the text.

I remember the dating of the Qumran compound and the times it was inhabited, also involves a major earthquake. This one occurred in 31 BCE. No doubt about that one. The next earthquake can be seen in the layers after that. I can't fault the methods of the archaeologists and geologists.They use the evidence that is available. The website http://www.icr.org/article/greatest-earthquakes-bible/ has the following report:

In 31 BCE, a large earthquake occurred along the Jericho Fault on the western side of the Dead Sea. The earthquake dried up Qumran’s main spring and severely cracked the architecture. Spectacular evidence of the earthquake is seen at recent excavations at Qumran in cracked stair steps within the ritual baths. Grooved fault surfaces (what geologists call “slickensides”) and ground rupture within lake sediment can be observed just south of Qumran. Josephus wrote of the regional devastation from the earthquake, and he said 30,000 men perished. The survivors buried the Dead Sea Scrolls and Qumran lay abandoned after the earthquake.

An outcrop of laminated Dead Sea sediment can be seen at Wadi Ze’elim above the southwestern shore of the modern Dead Sea near the fortress of Masada. In this sediment outcrop is a distinctive one-foot thick “mixed layer” of sediment that is tied strongly to the Qumran earthquake’s onshore ground ruptures of 31 BCE. Thirteen inches above the 31 BCE event bed is another distinctive “mixed layer” less than one inch thick. The sedimentation rate puts this second earthquake about 65 years after the 31 BCE earthquake. It seems that the crucifixion earthquake of 33 CE was magnitude 5.5, leaving direct physical evidence in a thin layer of disturbed sediment from the Dead Sea.In 31 BCE, a large earthquake occurred along the Jericho Fault on the western side of the Dead Sea. The earthquake dried up Qumran’s main spring and severely cracked the architecture. Spectacular evidence of the earthquake is seen at recent excavations at Qumran in cracked stair steps within the ritual baths. Grooved fault surfaces (what geologists call “slickensides”) and ground rupture within lake sediment can be observed just south of Qumran. Josephus wrote of the regional devastation from the earthquake, and he said 30,000 men perished. The survivors buried the Dead Sea Scrolls and Qumran lay abandoned after the earthquake.

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If you were raised in a home with a JW parent and a non-JW parent: a few questions

by Lady Lee in

if you were raised in a home with a jw parent and a non-jw parent: a few questions.. i am going to be addressing the international cultic studies association (icsa) in july at the conference in montreal.

my focus is on 3 groups.

the third group consists of people people who grew up in homes where one parent was a jw and the other wasn't.

Vidqun

Who was responsible for your religious upbringing?The JW or the non-JW? JW
Was your non-JW parent ever a JW? NO
Did they argue about it? YES
Were you forced to go? NO
Did the non-JW parent have any real say in how the family celebrated holidays? YES
Over all what impact did this split household have on your childhood and even later in life? NEGATIVE IMPACT. A LOT OF CONFLICT. NOT CONDUCIVE CONDITIONS FOR BRINGING UP CHILDREN.
What would you want therapists to know about your situation? CONFLICT > ESCAPE > STUNTED EMOTIONAL DEVELOPMENT > DISASTROUS HUMAN INTERACTION > FAILED RELATIONSHIPS IN LATER LIFE
Any other thoughts? RESULT: 2 FAILED MARRIAGES