Welcome Winnie12, I can also relate to your story. My father was not in the "truth." He insisted that I get a proper education. Today I am eternally grateful to him for insisting that I go to university. My mother is a Witness and my only dependant. I got her on my side with the UN/OSCE fiasco and the JWs handling of pedophiles (she has been molested as a child and HATES pedophiles). The rest of the Witnesses in my life did not matter, all of them "good weather friends," not important at all. The last straw that broke the camels back was when she saw how the Witnesses treated me after I revealed that I don't agree with a lot of what they are doing and saying (I was disfellowshipped and shunned - no love there). All of the best with your quest for freedom!
Posts by Vidqun
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by winnie12 inhey i'm new here, i've been reading up so much here and on other sites about tatt and it has really settled a nagging feeling of doubt within me.
truly i have been lied to and have been trapped in this cult.
i've been suffering with depression, anxiety, attempted suicide, hospitalization, anti depressants, loneliness all this while being in supposedly surrounded by "the happiest people" on earth.
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John Cedar Confronts his Jehovah's Witnesses Elder Father on the UN/NGO scandal
by Scott77 inmy father (who is an elder) hasnt been abusive, but he has reaffirmed that he will be shunning us the moment things become official.
we spent a few days vacation together in picturesque northern croatia before i sat him down and attempted to explain my position.
after i revealed the information on the un/ngo scandal to dad by showing him newspaper articles from 2001, he was initially nauseous and didnt want to hear any more.
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Vidqun
If you criticize the GB you're out even if you're right. Oh well, join the club...
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Jesus's reign is how long?
by Splash injesus was enthroned and began ruling as king in 1914, which is why the wt are currently celebrating 100 years of kingdom rule.. but then we read in the feb 2014 study wt ("hail christ, the glorious king!
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Vidqun
If I'm not mistaken, they believe Jesus reigns in heaven since 1914. On earth he reigns over the congregation (cf. Ps. 110:1, 2; Col. 1:13). The Messianic kingdom will be established on earth post-Armageddon.
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Dawkins-The Greatest Show on Earth
by KateWild inas many may be aware.
i don't like the man.
but i have chosen to review the first chapter of his book.. chapter 1... only a theory?.
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Vidqun
My first inclination would be to go to the Dictionary definition of "theory" and "hypothesis." An up-to-date dictionary usually gives most current definitions. In summary:
HYPOTHESIS, THEORY, LAW mean a formula derived by inference from scientific data that explains a principle operating in nature. HYPOTHESIS implies insufficient evidence to provide more than a tentative explanation (a hypothesis explaining the extinction of the dinosaurs). THEORY implies a greater range of evidence and greater likelihood of truth (the theory of evolution). LAW implies a statement of order and relation in nature that has been found to be invariable under the same conditions (the law of gravitation). See Webster.
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Feb 15 study W/T up on jw.org
by konceptual99 inlatest wt is up.. reinforces jesus becoming king in 1914 (no let up on that date).
marriage of the lamb to the 144,000. yawn.... yawn..... celebrates the 100 year anniversary of the photo drama of creation.
it seems to me that every 100 year anniversary shall be celebrated just to try and take the wind from the sails of apostates.. .
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Vidqun
As usual, the scholarship of the WT writers is questionable to say the least. To make matters worse, they do not quote sources. The reader is forced to take their word for it. Perhaps they should try doing it this way, so that those who are interested in the subject can do their homework and decide for themselves:
The Jews did expect “Messiah [the] leader” at the beginning of the CE (Matt. 2:3-6). This has to do with Jewish reckoning, especially Essene chronology. According to R. Beckwith: “The Essenes began Daniel’s seventy weeks at the return from the Exile, which they dated in Anno Mundi 3430, and that they therefore expected the period of seventy weeks or 490 years to expire in A.M. 3920, which meant for them between 3 B.C. and A.D. 2. Consequently their hopes of the coming of the Messiah of Israel (the Son of David) were concentrated on the preceding 7 years, the last week, after the 69 weeks. Their interpretation of the seventy weeks is first found in the Testament of Levi and the Pseudo-Ezekiel Document (4 Q 384-390), which probably means that it was worked out before 146 B.C.” For a more complete discussion of the evidence see Roger Beckwith, “Daniel 9 and the Date of Messiah’s Coming in Essene, Hellenistic, Pharisaic, Zealot and Early Christian Computation,” Revue de Qumran 10 (December 1981): pp. 521-542.
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BEHOLD! THE GRAND CLIMAX IS AT HAND!
by Brother Mike indear friends of jwn,.
the time is now.
it is time to prepare for the "grand climax".
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Vidqun
While you are busy with those, would you be kind and add Matt. 24:15 and Mark 13:14 to the mix. According to the Watchtower explanation of Rev. 17:8 these have already taken place. Now remember Jesus' comparison of this happening to the Roman siege and the end of Jerusalem. Are you able to connect the dots yet?
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BEHOLD! THE GRAND CLIMAX IS AT HAND!
by Brother Mike indear friends of jwn,.
the time is now.
it is time to prepare for the "grand climax".
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Vidqun
Stand Up For True Worship, I would love you to explain the following scriptures to me. And no, these did not take place during the First World War, as you might notice: Ezek. 38, 39; Daniel 11:41, 45; 12:7; Zech. 13:7, 8; 14:1-3; 1 Pet. 4:17; Rev. 11:7, 8. So, if there is a grain of truth in these prophecies, perhaps now is a good time to get out!
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We are not trees
by Rip ingot a stengthening committee coming in yesterday and i lashed down the bomb.. honestly, without fear i pointed out all contradictons with reference to the july 15 watchtower,.
the first article about sheep and goats, killing the year 1914 (that was a good move) and then ressussitating it in the next article about wheat and weeds( i said this is an irresponsible writing) and attempting to re emphasize it in the rest of the following article.
outrageous, dishonest and irresponsible.
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Vidqun
Yes I agree with Xanthippe. I also spelt out my doubts to the CO, to do with UN/OSCE. He "encouraged" me to write a letter to Bethel. The letter came back through the local branch: "No comment." Next step was a JC and disfellowshipping as an apostate. The pronouncement at the KH: So-and-so does not want to be a Witness anymore. So yes, I'm afraid they are setting you up for a fall. Everything of the best!
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Sacrifices
by lambsbottom inhello all,.
i remember, whether from a talk or from a wt, sacrifices made in time, money, or energy from jws compared directly to the animal sacrifices made by the israelites.
can anyone find some good quotes that show this?.
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Vidqun
No, the trend was to move away from animal sacrifice altogether. The Qumran adherents, responsible for the Dead Sea Scrolls, also rejected the temple sacrifices. This was also predicted by Dan. 9:24-27. Sacrifice and gift offering would cease. Paul explains the significance of animal sacrifices to Christians at Hebr. 13:10-15. So, "sacrifice of praise" and "doing of good" would take the place of animal sacrifices.
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Can the jw organization be reformed?
by wannaexit ini know that this has been discussed in the past but i wanted to get some fresh opinions.
there are many out there that recognize the "rot" that is in watchtower but still feel that there is a "wholesome" side to it and are trying to bring about change or reform from within.. in 2002 when the rose colored glasses came off for me and i truly started to understand ttatt, i still felt that there was some redemable aspects of the organization.. i felt that russell had some doctrinal things right.
i don't feel like that anymore.
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Vidqun
Here’s a bit of Biblical wisdom that answers the question: “That which is made crooked cannot be made straight, and that which is wanting cannot possibly be counted.” (Ecc 1:15 NWT)
Another scripture comes to mind: “But there are new heavens and a new earth that we are awaiting according to his promise, and in these righteousness is to dwell.” (2Pe 3:13 NWT)
God must make everything new “and in these righteousness is to dwell.” That means that there is no righteousness now. So, Jehovah’s Witnesses, as an organization, like all earthly organizations, cannot survive. Many prophecies point to this (cf. Dan. 2:44; 12:7; Zech. 13:7, 8; 14:1-3; Rev. 11:7, 8, 18; 19:11-21).