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  Who Made The Code?

  by Perry in

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  a few weeks ago, discoveries were made that show that there is another dna code language that rides on top of the already incredibly complex 4-letter code previously discovered.

  this newly discovered code apparently regulates how genes work.

  as i noted in a previous thread, the amount of data storage available in the dna storage system just the size of a pin-head would filll a stack of books stacked from your driveway to the moon .... 500 times!

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  Oh, the irony of it all! Craig Venter, creator of synthetic life, indeed a title to be proud of. To have been able to do that, scientists had to reverse engineer the coding of existing life. The same goes for the Urey Miller experiment. "Even if you were to make a reactor in the laboratory, and put hydrogen and carbon dioxide and nitrogen in one end, and out pops something like Escherichia coli at the other end, you still couldn't prove that we and our ancestors arose that way. You'd just have a narrative that made it more plausible."

  Even if above process could be duplicated in a lab, Dr. Michael Russell of the Scottish Environmental Research Centre in Glasgow would be the creator of a new E. coli. Take note, a creator is needed to create a basic organism. And Cofty’s arguments of things being systematically built up, piece by piece, do not hold water. Even simple organisms are very complex. And what I know of nature, things tend to break down. Atoms and molecules do not spontaneously form complicated proteins (even if you allow for millions of years to pass).
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  Who Made The Code?

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a few weeks ago, discoveries were made that show that there is another dna code language that rides on top of the already incredibly complex 4-letter code previously discovered.

  this newly discovered code apparently regulates how genes work.

  as i noted in a previous thread, the amount of data storage available in the dna storage system just the size of a pin-head would filll a stack of books stacked from your driveway to the moon .... 500 times!

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  Thanks Perry for this information. Excellent thread! To decipher code and to duplicate it, you have to reverse engineer the original program. And this is exactly what scientist are doing at the moment.
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  Seems the org have got this wrong as well..

  by Dis-Member in

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  china to become new world superpower... http://money.cnn.com/2013/07/18/news/economy/china-us-superpower/.

  will china supplant the united states as the world's leading superpower and top player in the world economy?a new pew research center survey of 38,000 people in 39 countries found the widespread belief that china is well on its way.. overall, a majority or plurality of respondents in only six of the countries surveyed believe the u.s. will remain on top.. "publics around the world believe the global balance of power is shifting," pew wrote.

  "china's economic power is on the rise, and many think it will eventually supplant the united states as the world's dominant superpower.".

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  I, for one, has been convinced by Martin Jacques' book When China Rules the World. The End of the Western World and the Birth of a New Global Order. Second Edition (2012). Penguin Books. He bases his economic arguments on the last twenty years. From there he just extends his graphs and stats to the future. In his Afterword there is a subheading called "Be Prepared for a Surprise...", an indication of the speed things are moving. He predicted China will surpass the US economy in 2018. The IMF has already upped the ante to 2016. Now it seems as though the Chinese have surpassed the US as a trading nation.
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  "Jehovah ALWAYS had/used an organization". How would you reply?

  by EdenOne in

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  in a recent meeting with elders, an argument was used to the effect that jehovah has always [= throughout history] used, or operated through, an organization; therefore, the wts must be that organization today, since god must be using one.

  naturally, i know what arguments i've used to counter that argument.

  but i'm interested in hearing yours.

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  When they say that God has always had an organization, they are lying. There were times that he only worked through individuals (e.g., from Adam and Eve to Moses), as has been brought out. Even according to their own belief system, they admit that Jehovah used individuals to preserve the Scriptures from the time of Jesus onwards. After the leaders of the Catholic Church went apostate, what organization did God use? However, in the magazines you often read of God using individuals since that time that championed the truth of God's Word (e.g., Wycliffe, Tyndale, etc.)
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  Appointed by holy spirit

  by Ben57 in

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  i have been reading the posts on who is and or had been an elder.

  it amazes me at what many have said.

  perhaps i have misunderstood what they were saying.

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  Vidqun

  17 Likewise every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit;

  18 a good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, neither can a rotten tree produce fine fruit.

  19 Every tree not producing fine fruit gets cut down and thrown into the fire.

  20 Really, then, by their fruits YOU will recognize those [men]. (Mat 7:17-20 NWT)
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  New here

  by winnie12 in

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  2. experiences

  hey i'm new here, i've been reading up so much here and on other sites about tatt and it has really settled a nagging feeling of doubt within me.

  truly i have been lied to and have been trapped in this cult.

  i've been suffering with depression, anxiety, attempted suicide, hospitalization, anti depressants, loneliness all this while being in supposedly surrounded by "the happiest people" on earth.

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  Vidqun

  Welcome Winnie12, I can also relate to your story. My father was not in the "truth." He insisted that I get a proper education. Today I am eternally grateful to him for insisting that I go to university. My mother is a Witness and my only dependant. I got her on my side with the UN/OSCE fiasco and the JWs handling of pedophiles (she has been molested as a child and HATES pedophiles). The rest of the Witnesses in my life did not matter, all of them "good weather friends," not important at all. The last straw that broke the camels back was when she saw how the Witnesses treated me after I revealed that I don't agree with a lot of what they are doing and saying (I was disfellowshipped and shunned - no love there). All of the best with your quest for freedom!
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  John Cedar Confronts his Jehovah's Witnesses Elder Father on the UN/NGO scandal

  by Scott77 in

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  2. humour

  my father (who is an elder) hasnt been abusive, but he has reaffirmed that he will be shunning us the moment things become official.

  we spent a few days vacation together in picturesque northern croatia before i sat him down and attempted to explain my position.

  after i revealed the information on the un/ngo scandal to dad by showing him newspaper articles from 2001, he was initially nauseous and didnt want to hear any more.

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  Vidqun

  If you criticize the GB you're out even if you're right. Oh well, join the club...
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  Jesus's reign is how long?

  by Splash in

  1. watchtower
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  jesus was enthroned and began ruling as king in 1914, which is why the wt are currently celebrating 100 years of kingdom rule.. but then we read in the feb 2014 study wt ("hail christ, the glorious king!

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  19): "he will complete his conquest by abyssing satan and his demons for the full length of the thousand year reign.".

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  If I'm not mistaken, they believe Jesus reigns in heaven since 1914. On earth he reigns over the congregation (cf. Ps. 110:1, 2; Col. 1:13). The Messianic kingdom will be established on earth post-Armageddon.
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  Dawkins-The Greatest Show on Earth

  by KateWild in

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  as many may be aware.

  i don't like the man.

  but i have chosen to review the first chapter of his book.. chapter 1... only a theory?.

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  Vidqun

  My first inclination would be to go to the Dictionary definition of "theory" and "hypothesis." An up-to-date dictionary usually gives most current definitions. In summary:

  HYPOTHESIS, THEORY, LAW mean a formula derived by inference from scientific data that explains a principle operating in nature. HYPOTHESIS implies insufficient evidence to provide more than a tentative explanation (a hypothesis explaining the extinction of the dinosaurs). THEORY implies a greater range of evidence and greater likelihood of truth (the theory of evolution). LAW implies a statement of order and relation in nature that has been found to be invariable under the same conditions (the law of gravitation). See Webster.
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  Feb 15 study W/T up on jw.org

  by konceptual99 in

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  2. bible

  latest wt is up.. reinforces jesus becoming king in 1914 (no let up on that date).

  marriage of the lamb to the 144,000. yawn.... yawn..... celebrates the 100 year anniversary of the photo drama of creation.

  it seems to me that every 100 year anniversary shall be celebrated just to try and take the wind from the sails of apostates.. .

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  Vidqun

  As usual, the scholarship of the WT writers is questionable to say the least. To make matters worse, they do not quote sources. The reader is forced to take their word for it. Perhaps they should try doing it this way, so that those who are interested in the subject can do their homework and decide for themselves:

  The Jews did expect “Messiah [the] leader” at the beginning of the CE (Matt. 2:3-6). This has to do with Jewish reckoning, especially Essene chronology. According to R. Beckwith: “The Essenes began Daniel’s seventy weeks at the return from the Exile, which they dated in Anno Mundi 3430, and that they therefore expected the period of seventy weeks or 490 years to expire in A.M. 3920, which meant for them between 3 B.C. and A.D. 2. Consequently their hopes of the coming of the Messiah of Israel (the Son of David) were concentrated on the preceding 7 years, the last week, after the 69 weeks. Their interpretation of the seventy weeks is first found in the Testament of Levi and the Pseudo-Ezekiel Document (4 Q 384-390), which probably means that it was worked out before 146 B.C.” For a more complete discussion of the evidence see Roger Beckwith, “Daniel 9 and the Date of Messiah’s Coming in Essene, Hellenistic, Pharisaic, Zealot and Early Christian Computation,” Revue de Qumran 10 (December 1981): pp. 521-542.