I'm with you, DD. Such knowledge will not guarantee survival, but might improve one's chances of survival, a famous "prepper" proverb. Yes, and if there's a direct comet hit, remove all metallic objects from your pockets, put your head between your knees, and kiss your arse goodbye (old Cold War poster).
Posts by Vidqun
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19Mythical Nemesis and Nibiru, or is it?
by Vidqun ina long time since the topic has been raised on jwn.
" according to the majority of scientists, it's all our fault.
our high carbon emissions and increase in co2 are causing changes in our weather.
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Mythical Nemesis and Nibiru, or is it?
by Vidqun ina long time since the topic has been raised on jwn.
" according to the majority of scientists, it's all our fault.
our high carbon emissions and increase in co2 are causing changes in our weather.
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Vidqun
Scratchme1010, do me a favour and watch the videos, especially the documentary. There you will see who Dr Harrington is and what he accomplished. If you do live in the USA, you will be able to find out about the reports of the underground highways and cities. And just a day before 911, Donald Rumpsfeld asked what happened to the trillions of missing Dollars. Look it up. Laughable, I think not. Lot of evidence there, some of it is true, some doubtful, some false, one has got to sift through it. The documentary also mention the Antarctic telescope SPT (infra red telescope). However, I believe, where there is smoke, there is fire.
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Mythical Nemesis and Nibiru, or is it?
by Vidqun ina long time since the topic has been raised on jwn.
" according to the majority of scientists, it's all our fault.
our high carbon emissions and increase in co2 are causing changes in our weather.
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Vidqun
A long time since the topic has been raised on JWN. Lots happening around us ascribed to "Global Warming" and "Climate Change." According to the majority of scientists, it's all our fault. Our high carbon emissions and increase in CO2 are causing changes in our weather. There's a fringe group out there that is saying that that's nonsense. We are being affected by happenings in our solar system, in and around our sun. The temperature of Mars and Venus are also increasing. Even Jupiter is affected, losing some of its rings. Nothing to do with "global warming." The following video discusses 10 reasons why to believe in the coming of the Nemesis/Nibiru system:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GczdsyNpgMs
1) This has been documented by the ancients (from the Summerians, Jews, Chinese, etc.).
2) Cycles of catastrophe
3) Climate change is happening in the solar system
4) Preparations of governments indicating a great cover-up
5) Missing trillions of dollars
6) Preparations for martial law, especially in USA
7) Robert Harrington and the Washington Post article
8) Earthly sightings increasing
9) Blackout on Google sky, which they had to put back
10) A lot of disinformation doing the rounds (a lot of Alien stories and/or religious opinions obscuring the facts)
Here I can recommend two more documentaries on YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3CAznqJ5fQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwJbeEt_6Y0
Feel free to give your opinion.
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The true sign of a Cult-Like group is:
by stuckinarut2 injust thought we could have a concise thread listing the signs of a high control, or cult-like group:.
feel free to add to the list:.
the true sign of a cult-like group is:.
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Vidqun
Under no circumstances should you or your children pursue higher education. However, there is an urgent need for registered nurses, doctors, dentists, architects, engineers, etc. at Bethel. If these are not forthcoming from the rank and file, we will send some to University to be trained as such. Do as we say, do not do as we do.
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Extra-Ordinary Meetings taking place at Kingdom Halls at this hour....???
by AFRIKANMAN inin south africa there are meetings taking place at the kh's at this time involving video hookup as well......anyone know anything or is similar occurring in your neck of the woods this week-end ??
all involved not just the elite elders ..
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Vidqun
From a reliable source: First talk was the WatchTower discussion with children. Second talk was about personal testimonies. A person was in jail, and now he's a good JW - type of thing, examples from every-day life. Third talk would have been interesting to listen to. The English brother went into detail about the different forms of leprosy. The leprous man told Jesus: "If you want to, you can heal me." And Jesus said: "I want to." Not sure about the connection, but he then started discussing the GB. Sounds to me he was comparing the work of the GB with that of Jesus. Not sure about that though. Are the GB having an identity crisis? The more it they mention themselves and their role, the more it must be true. Overall it would have been a most "happifying" occasion.
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Watchtower's "New Light" re Babylonish Captivity, November 2016 WT
by Room 215 inhas anyone noticed the wt's most recent shell-game revisionism in the november study tractazine, relating to the shifting of its "babylonish captivity" doctrine, from a 3 1/2-year period around the ww 1 years, to a period now spanning about 16 centuries, or from the 4th century (constantine's legal recognition of christianity) to 1919?.
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Vidqun
Blondie, there's a slight problem with their interpretation. They seem to conveniently avoid or ignore the identity of the beast from the abyss (Rev. 11:7, 8). This is actually the scarlet-colored wild beast, who "was, but is not, and about to ascend out of the abyss," which they identify as the League of Nations, later to become the United Nations (Rev. 17:8). Now, according to their definition, the beast "that ascends out of the abyss," killing the two witnesses, must be the United Nations. And this is where the first problem comes in. The League of Nations only came into existence in 1920. It wasn't around during World War I. The League was only created after the Great War, as a result of it. A footnote in the Revelation Climax-book (p. 167) backtracks and dishonestly calls this beast the beast from the sea by equating "abyss" with "sea."
Second problem is the chronological sequence of the seven seals, the three woes and the seven trumpet blasts. According to their theology, World War I started with the running horses, caused by the opening of the first four seals. The two witnesses are killed during the period of the sixth trumpet blast, ending the second woe, which would point to the future (cf. Rev. 9:12, 13; 11:15-18).
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Trump in Prophecy
by Vanderhoven7 intwo weeks ago i got an email from a friend saying that according to a recent prophecy, trump would win the election by a landslide.
as i dug into it, i found the following:.
http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/57209-shocking-2011-prophecy-about-donald-trump-becoming-president.
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Vidqun
This reminds me of a professor of one of the American Universities, on CNN (many weeks before), predicting that Trump would win. The woman anchor was incredulous, reminding him that this was contrary to what the polls predict. What he did, he looked at all the elections since the 19th century. The pattern he found was the candidate that did well in the primaries, and bad in the actual presidential race, won the election. The anchor reminded him that this was no ordinary presidential race, and there were a lot of factors that made this one unique. The professor was adamant, insisting that Trump would be the victor. He was right all along against popular opinion. That's the scientific method for you.
On the other hand we have TB Joshua, a prominent evangelist preacher from Nigeria that predicted Clinton would win. Well, she lost and he deleted the post quickly after that. That was the unscientific, quasi-religious way of doing things. One up for science.
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I am deeply ashamed that I didn't accept evolution until a few years ago...
by ILoveTTATT2 inso... i live in mexico and i am helping with an esl class (english as a second language).
actually, i am helping with two classes.
i get two days a week in which i just stand there and have a debate with the class, encouraging as many as possible to just talk... in english.. anyways, i like talking about subjects that generate debate.
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Vidqun
Vidqun: Yes, TD I believe you’ve hit the nail on the head. Gitt and associates base their findings on their study of language and computer code. I agree with Gitt, one could and should classify information as information and Universal Information.
I believe Gitt is in error when he classifies the DNA information system as a mere language. It’s much more than a language. It’s a coded operating system with an error correcting system and a two way communication system all thrown in. We can only surmise how energy is distributed and the role of enzymes to speed things up. Remember, the DNA gives instructions and receives instructions: Structural protein is needed. Structural protein is manufactured. The process is stopped when a saturation point has been reached. Yes, the cell is a little microcosm with far reaching consequences. It originates life, sustains life and reproduces life.
That brings me to one of Gitt’s questions:
Biological systems are more complex than technological systems. Should there not be a specific definition of information from biological systems?
Gitt: It is true that biological systems are far more complex than our technological inventions. It is also possible that there may be other-than-UI forms of information encoded within the DNA molecules. If and when other-than-UI forms of information are discovered, these must be unambigiously defined. In the mean time, the definition of UI, derived from human natural and machine languages, perfectly characterizes the ‘information’ that is present in the DNA of all organisms-specifically within the DNA/RNA Protein Synthesizing System (DPRSS). Therefore, at least for the DRPSS, the definition of UI is appropriate and scientific laws that govern its domain can be applied. “Without Excuse,” p. 247.
Vidqun: Deduction (take note, this he deducts or infers from what was previously stated).
Universal Information can only be created by an intelligent sender.
The ‘information’ conveyed by the DPRSS qualifies as UI.
Therefore, UI in the DNA RNA Protein Synthesis System must have been created by an intelligent sender.
This brings me to two relevant questions, especially for you A Ha. I was in error. An intelligent sender is not a prerequisite for his definition as UI. I assumed it was. I was wrong:
Does the sender also belong to your definition of Universal Information? If that were true then the conclusion would be, of course, that the sender exists.
Gitt: The sender is not part of nor a prerequisite for the definition of Universal Information. In either case it would be a circular argument. All scientific laws are established by observation and experimentation and not prejudiced by assumptions or prerequisites. When we investigate an unknown system we have to determine whether all four distinguishing attributes of Universal Information are present. If so, then we can apply the Scientific Laws of Universal Information to reach the conclusion that the UI in the unknown system must have been created by an intelligent author. “Without Excuse,” pp. 248, 249.
Vidqun: Remember the Enigma Machine of the Germans. It was designed and built by German scientists in WW II. The English could only break its code if they had one in their possession. Now, the Enigma Machine is crude in comparison to the code of the DNA information system.
The criteria for information seem to be mostly subjective.
Gitt: Yes, the criteria for information may seem subjective because there are several ‘definitions’ for ‘information.’ However our criteria for Universal Information are based on careful observation of human natural and machine languages. We began by observing and establishing a hierarchy of five levels, the lowest being statistical with progressively higher levels, i.e., cosyntic, semantic, pragmatic and apobetic. Further study revealed that the upper four levels are distinguishing attributes that together unambigiously define Universal Information. Therefore the definition of Universal Information (UI) is: A symbolically encoded, abstractly represented message conveying the expected action(s) and the intended purpose(s). “Without Excuse,” p. 242. [Cursive script his.]
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I am deeply ashamed that I didn't accept evolution until a few years ago...
by ILoveTTATT2 inso... i live in mexico and i am helping with an esl class (english as a second language).
actually, i am helping with two classes.
i get two days a week in which i just stand there and have a debate with the class, encouraging as many as possible to just talk... in english.. anyways, i like talking about subjects that generate debate.
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Vidqun
A Ha and TD, the problem might lie with my interpretation of Gitt's thesis. Putting it in one's own words is not always the answer. Then one's own interpretation comes through and not always that of the author. So let me again work through what he says and perhaps I can clarify some of the points. I know he distinguishes between information and Universal Information (UI). He does questions and answers in his book "Without Excuse." Let me give the questions. If anyone is interested in an answer, let me know and I will give his specific wording for it.
Your criteria seem to be mostly subjective?
Is it information when I am both sender and receiver at the same time?
Would a photograph be Universal Information according to your definition?
Is Universal Information created when lottery numbers are drawn?
Is there a conservation law for UI similar to the law of Conservation of Energy?
Does UI have anything to do with entropy as stated in the Law of Thermodynamics?
Natural languages are changing all the time. Doesn't this contradict your thesis that coding conventions should be conserved?
Are synergetics, founded by German physicist Hermann Haken, an indication that order can emerge from disorder and thus evolution would be possible?
What is your view of the Miller experiments that are cited as proof of chemical evolution?
The SOS signal is periodic and is viewed as UI. Doesn't that contradict the conditions of UI?
Can new UI be created through mutations?
When the structure of a crystal is studied under a microscope, who is the sender in this instance?
Has your definition of information been selected arbitrarily? Could there not be other possibilities?
Biological systems are more complex than technological systems. Should there not be a specific definition of information from biological systems?
Biological systems often has the capacity to adapt to the environment. Shouldn't this be seen as either an increase or creation of UI by material means?
Can scientific laws change with time?
Does the sender also belong to your definition of UI? If that were true then the conclusion is, of course, that the sender exists.
Doesn't the application - scientific laws have no exceptions - preclude a priori process that may exist?
How many scientific laws are there?
Have you presented your concept of the Scientific Laws of Universal Information to your peers? How long have you taken to compile the concept in its present form?
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I am deeply ashamed that I didn't accept evolution until a few years ago...
by ILoveTTATT2 inso... i live in mexico and i am helping with an esl class (english as a second language).
actually, i am helping with two classes.
i get two days a week in which i just stand there and have a debate with the class, encouraging as many as possible to just talk... in english.. anyways, i like talking about subjects that generate debate.
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Vidqun
A Ha, welcome to a debating forum. That's what one does in a debate. You bring up an objection to my argument. I attempt to overcome the objection. You state your point. If I disagree, I say so and give you the reason, and so forth. Some arguments will be good, others bad, and some in between.
But you remind me of Cofty. He likes to state his case. Beware if anybody disagrees with him. Then you will be accused of many things, including dishonesty. You are doing exactly the same thing. If you feel that DNA is not part of an information system, that's your problem. Feel free to believe what you want. I know what I believe. And evolutionary arguments are contrary to logic, something that my simple mind is unable to grasp. Please do not hold it against me.
When I hear of an abused person staying loyal to his or her spouse who does the abusing, I always think of the humble Amoeba. The Amoeba is "intelligent" enough to move away from adversity. But we as intelligent human beings are sometimes plain stupid. We often remain where we are. The person who is abused becomes the accomplice of the abuser (Oprah).
Or the little swallow knows not to defecate in his own nest. We, as "intelligent" humans have not learnt from it. We continue abusing the planet and everything on it (Vidqun).
And this is why I view discussions of evolution vs. creation important. If there is a Creator, then everything belongs to Him. He will not allow humans to go past the point of no return. He will also rid Himself of those that cannot or do not want to be rehabilitated. That's unfortunately the way I see it, whether you like it or not. I know, it's is contrary to your beliefs. And that's what debating is all about, see?