Posts by raxxxx

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Crisis of Conscience: Who Wants It?

by RAYZORBLADE in

i have had this book for several years; it's in excellent condition.

i have posted infrequently here; follow up posts on occasion regarding this book that i have, yet still no takers.

the local library were awkward; insert charlie brown adult voice.

raxxxx

Is there any chance I could have it? if you want cedars I would send it to you after I have finished reading it if I would get it? I am still an jw just trying to research stuff to... gain knowledge to deal with elders if I have to later on and wanna discover everything I didn't know about this religion.

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Who designed cancer?

by snare&racket in

jw
friends

one thing i regret, is not listening to the questions in my head whilst a jw.

one i didn't ask until years after leaving was....who designed disease?

of course the first thing to realise is the complexity of disease, the histology, pathology and aetiology.

raxxxx

That's one of the problems I used to have. They say that death and illnesses are a product of our imprefection. But surely... they must have been somehow designed it BEFORE Adam and Eve ate the fruit? Or did it all just appeard out of nothing? Or is God just a sadistic dick who designed all of that and it was released so to speak as soon as they ate the fruit? And if Noah's story is true why have we got all of the diseases going around in this world if there were only 8 people on the boat? or did some of them have crabs and the clap?

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What's The Worst Thing An Elder or Elders Did To You?

by minimus in

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friends

was there anything truly terrible??

?

raxxxx

When I was a teen and had an ilness which caused me to be hyper sensitive to light so I couldn't leave my house for 2 months so therefore I was not able to do any ministry and did not report anything. When I finally got back to meetings (no one called or asked what is going on for 2 months - christian love my arse) and elder comes up to me and asks why I did not report anything.. I explained myself and what was his response ? 'Well next time let us elders know and we can take you out when it's dark, or maybe just take an umbrella to protect yourself from sunlight or maybe sunglasses?' at that point I walked off.

Also multiple occasions when I was unbaptized publisher and opinion or statement of a baptized person was taken over mine even though they were lying.

And not being able to get batized because I was not out in the ministry with an elder for couple of month. Went through questions and then a week before by supposed batism they come over and announce that they are really sorry but (due to their lack of integrity and stupidity) because they haven't been out with me in the ministry in a long time they can not let me get baptized. I was really close to punching one of them when they came over to me at the assembly he tried to tap me on my arm and called me buddy and started talking some bullshit. My dad noticed my fist slowly rising to deck him and told me to go and talk to mum and defused the situation. Still wish I punched that idiot (elder not my dad)

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JW Beliefs

by raxxxx in

83:18; isa.

1:15; rev.

6:9; rev.

raxxxx

http://www.watchtower.org/e/jt/article_03.htm

Why don't we rip some of the apart and make a pamphlet out of what you guys come up with?

Belief	Scriptural Reason
1.Bible is God's Word and is truth	2 Tim. 3:16, 17 ; 2 Pet. 1:20, 21 ; John 17:17
2.Bible is more reliable than tradition	Matt. 15:3 ; Col. 2:8
3.God's name is Jehovah	Ps. 83:18 ; Isa. 26:4 ; 42:8 , AS; Ex. 6:3
4.Christ is God's Son and is inferior to Him	Matt. 3:17 ; John 8:42 ; 14:28 ; 20:17 ; 1 Cor. 11:3 ; 15:28
5.Christ was first of God's creations	Col. 1:15 ; Rev. 3:14
6.Christ died on a stake, not a cross	Gal. 3:13 ; Acts 5:30
7.Christ's human life was paid as a ransom for obedient humans	Matt. 20:28 ; 1 Tim. 2:5, 6 ; 1 Pet. 2:24
8.Christ's one sacrifice was sufficient	Rom. 6:10 ; Heb. 9:25-28
9.Christ was raised from the dead as an immortal spirit person	1 Pet. 3:18 ; Rom. 6:9 ; Rev. 1:17, 18
10.Christ's presence is in spirit	John 14:19 ; Matt. 24:3 ; 2 Cor. 5:16 ; Ps. 110:1, 2
11.We are now in the 'time of the end'	Matt. 24:3-14 ; 2 Tim. 3:1-5 ; Luke 17:26-30
12.Kingdom under Christ will rule earth in righteousness and peace	Isa. 9:6, 7 ; 11:1-5 ; Dan. 7:13, 14 ; Matt. 6:10
13.Kingdom will bring ideal living conditions to earth	Ps. 72:1-4 ; Rev. 7:9, 10 , 13-17 ; 21:3, 4
14.Earth will never be destroyed or depopulated	Eccl. 1:4 ; Isa. 45:18 ; Ps. 78:69
15.God will eliminate present system of things in the battle at Har-Magedon	Rev. 16:14 , 16 ; Zeph. 3:8 ; Dan. 2:44 ; Isa. 34:2 ; 55:10, 11
16.Wicked will be eternally destroyed	Matt. 25:41-46 ; 2 Thess. 1:6-9
17.People God approves will receive everlasting life	John 3:16 ; 10:27, 28 ; 17:3 ; Mark 10:29, 30
18.There is only one road to life	Matt. 7:13, 14 ; Eph. 4:4, 5
19.Human death is due to Adam's sin	Rom. 5:12 ; 6:23
20.The human soul ceases to exist at death	Ezek. 18:4 ; Eccl. 9:10 ; Ps. 6:5 ; 146:4 ; John 11:11-14
21.Hell is mankind's common grave	Job 14:13 , Dy; Rev. 20:13, 14 , AV (margin)
22.Hope for dead is resurrection	1 Cor. 15:20-22 ; John 5:28, 29 ; 11:25, 26
23.Adamic death will cease	1 Cor. 15:26 , 54 ; Rev. 21:4 ; Isa. 25:8
24.Only a little flock of 144,000 go to heaven and rule with Christ	Luke 12:32 ; Rev. 14:1 , 3 ; 1 Cor. 15:40-53 ; Rev. 5:9, 10
25.The 144,000 are born again as spiritual sons of God	1 Pet. 1:23 ; John 3:3 ; Rev. 7:3, 4
26.New covenant is made with spiritual Israel	Jer. 31:31 ; Heb. 8:10-13
27.Christ's congregation is built upon himself	Eph. 2:20 ; Isa. 28:16 ; Matt. 21:42
28.Prayers are to be directed only to Jehovah through Christ	John 14:6 , 13, 14 ; 1 Tim. 2:5
29.Images should not be used in worship	Ex. 20:4, 5 ; Lev. 26:1 ; 1 Cor. 10:14 ; Ps. 115:4-8
30.Spiritism must be shunned	Deut. 18:10-12 ; Gal. 5:19-21 ; Lev. 19:31
31.Satan is invisible ruler of world	1 John 5:19 ; 2 Cor. 4:4 ; John 12:31
32.A Christian ought to have no part in interfaith movements	2 Cor. 6:14-17 ; 11:13-15 ; Gal. 5:9 ; Deut. 7:1-5
33.A Christian should keep separate from world	Jas. 4:4 ; 1 John 2:15 ; John 15:19 ; 17:16
34.Obey human laws that do not conflict with God's laws	Matt. 22:20, 21 ; 1 Pet. 2:12 ; 4:15
35.Taking blood into body through mouth or veins violates God's laws	Gen. 9:3, 4 ; Lev. 17:14 ; Acts 15:28, 29
36.Bible's laws on morals must be obeyed	1 Cor. 6:9, 10 ; Heb. 13:4 ; 1 Tim. 3:2 ; Prov. 5:1-23
37.Sabbath observance was given only to Israel and ended with Mosaic Law	Deut. 5:15 ; Ex. 31:13 ; Rom. 10:4 ; Gal. 4:9, 10 ; Col. 2:16, 17
38.A clergy class and special titles are improper	Matt. 23:8-12 ; 20:25-27 ; Job 32:21, 22
39.Man did not evolve but was created	Isa. 45:12 ; Gen. 1:27 ; Matt. 19:4
40.Christ set example that must be followed in serving God	1 Pet. 2:21 ; Heb. 10:7 ; John 4:34 ; 6:38
41.Baptism by complete immersion symbolizes dedication	Mark 1:9, 10 ; John 3:23 ; Acts 19:4, 5
42.Christians gladly give public testimony to Scriptural truth	Rom. 10:10 ; Heb. 13:15 ; Isa. 43:10-12

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help with an email

by raxxxx in

jw
friends

been to the meeting yesterday... haven't for a while but yet... no one came up to ask or anything like that.

have got a visit from two elders coming soon so that should be fun.

raxxxx

Sooo... I don't know where to begin. Been to the meeting yesterday... haven't for a while but yet... no one came up to ask or anything like that. Have got a visit from two elders coming soon so that should be fun. Feel very alienated... and now noticing things ... the ridiculousity of it all and how ... alienated more and more I feel...