Since becoming a so called apostate myself, I've found that my knowledge of current WT 'truths' is far better than when I was an active witness. I believe apostates are far more current on WT teachings than the so called witnesses in good standing. Can you say ironic?
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Shibboleth or Sibboleth?
by stuckinarut2 init seems that for a witness to keep up with the ever changing doctrines, teachings, beliefs and ideas of the society is a way to identify a so called "spiritual one" compared to a "weak or non spiritual" one!.
just like the account in "gideon's time", if someone did not pronounce the word shibboleth correctly, they were viewed with suspicion or even killed!.
so too, if one doesn't know the latest "truth", they are to be viewed with suspicion or caution!.
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Tried One Last Time In The Kingdom Hall...
by pale.emperor inso last thursday was meeting day.
my wife knows my thoughts on this religion and respects my fade and is completely ok with it (which surprised me, and also made me love her even more).
i think she must know it's all crack-pot stuff but seeing as her whole family are all in and about 98% of them cant even explain their beleifs without a watchtower on hand i think she's just going along for the friends/family/social side of it.
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Man, I don't think I could last 2 seconds inside a K'hall anymore. Just hearing you're experience above was giving me flashbacks. Been about 2 years since I've been inside one. I've got a wife who's still in, probably for similar reasons as your wife. Also couldn't explain the religion without a WT in hand. Unlikely to leave though, and our marriage is not so strong right now. Glad to hear yours is doing well. Gives me some hope. Thanks for sharing.
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Father's Day is tomorrow (in the US). Why is it wrong?
by leaving_quietly ini did an examination of the one single article ever to address father's day since it's tomorrow here in the us.
the article covers both mother's day and father's day.
hope it's informative.. examination of “mother and father worship unscriptural”, the only article ever to address father’s day in any publication printed by the watchtower bible and tract society.
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IMO, anything that would give honor to an individual is not allowed. Whether they know they're doing it on purpose or not it's part of robbing individual JW's of a self identity. Making sure all JW's only identify as part of the collective. Same reason birthday's are so demonized. Similar reason you can't accept praise for accomplishments you make - all praise must go to Jehoober.
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Bravo watchtower
by hoser inthey did an excellent job of the first day of convention.
imo.
i grade them a+ in shunning your dfd children.
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I'm sure they will. In the case of my particular family targets though, they're so infrequent that they don't check things like JW.org. So it's unlikely they'll bother to go there to get they're latest hit of indoctrination. Even less likely to check the Internet aposta-sources for the commentary for just how crazy the videos really are. But I sure wish they would.
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Bravo watchtower
by hoser inthey did an excellent job of the first day of convention.
imo.
i grade them a+ in shunning your dfd children.
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I think they make the point that they want active JW's to shun inactive JW's who they know have committed something that the elders should deal with. I.e. If you know the inactive JW is living with someone they're not married to, or if they know they're living a homosexual lifestyle, etc. If they're just inactive but not necessarily committing an disfellowshipping offense, then you might still not be subject to shunning. But of course there's going to be some speculation and confusion anyway.
And some JW's just shun anyway, because well, that's what JW's do. If you're inactive, somethings up and you're not good association anyway. Since I stopped going to meetings about 2 years ago not a single person from our hall has stopped by to say hello except for an elder on a shepherding call.
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JWR usernames list
by StarryNight9 ini created this thread so that jwr members can list their old jwr username with their username for whatever site they've moved to.
i apologize if this has already been created somewhere else.. jwr = starrynight.
jwd = starrynight9.
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JWR = 2Badsosad
JWD = 2Badsosad
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First exchange in years about JW religion with my wife...
by NVR2L8 intoday my wife showed me the new medical directive and power of attorney form she got at the meeting.
surprisingly she asked if i wanted to fill mine!
i have been inactive for 6 years and i don't go close to any jw gatherings because i don't want friends who only care for me unless i share their beliefs.
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Very interesting. Thanks.
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First exchange in years about JW religion with my wife...
by NVR2L8 intoday my wife showed me the new medical directive and power of attorney form she got at the meeting.
surprisingly she asked if i wanted to fill mine!
i have been inactive for 6 years and i don't go close to any jw gatherings because i don't want friends who only care for me unless i share their beliefs.
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I haven't, sounds familiar, but would be interested to if you can point me towards it.
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Message from Designer Stubble to the former JWR members
by Designer Stubble inmessage from designer stubble to the former jwr members.
first of all i am glad to see that many of you have found your way to this great forum, facilitated by simon.
i am sure that after the dust of the jwr shutdown has settled, you will find this to be a good new home.. i would like to apologize for the sudden closure of jwr.
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@StarryNight - Would be great if there was one place where old user names were being matched up with the new ones, but everyone has been scattered all over the place. I'm the same name on this site as at JWR. Tony Brock on FB has a thread going there where he's asked people to list out their JWR names so he knows, a few other people have also done the same thing there as well. I think a few others are doing the same thing on Reddit as well. I haven't seen anybody start an individual thread on here to do that. Sounds like a good idea though. If you start one I'll definitely add a post to it, though mine is obvious.
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First exchange in years about JW religion with my wife...
by NVR2L8 intoday my wife showed me the new medical directive and power of attorney form she got at the meeting.
surprisingly she asked if i wanted to fill mine!
i have been inactive for 6 years and i don't go close to any jw gatherings because i don't want friends who only care for me unless i share their beliefs.
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New here as well (from JWR). I don't think there's much point arguing with a devout JW over blood. I had my doubts about Jdubs for 15 years, still dutifully carried my blood card. Even when I fully woke up a couple years ago, I still couldn't even think about taking blood. Don't think I even really came round to the idea until about 6 months ago. I think it's one of the deepest subroutines the JW virus plants in you. Blood is the biggest taboo. Maybe not for everyone, but I know that part of the indoctrination was really strong in me anyway. Took a long time to shake it. Even after I accepted it, I was still really taken aback by the simple logic that yeah, to accept fractions (which I was okay with as a believer) somewhat had to donate them (holy shit!). And also - for blood to have any significant to Jehoober, the blood's giver had to die! No one dies donating blood - at least not that I know of anyway. Just blew my mind when I read about that on another forum and that was only in the last couple months.