it seems that when i ask witnesses questions about 1914, they really don't understand the relevance to their message today.
i am told that they preach about the coming kingdom and that they don't preach a message of 1914. if a person doesn't understand 1914 then i can clearly see how showing them the inaccuracies of the doctrine wouldn't matter.
can we compile a list of ties 1914 has to their current beliefs?.
The last time I mentioned 1914 to a JW (in relation to 607) they asked what happened in 1934? Actually something significant did happen in 1934. Hitler came to power and was the main reason the state of Israel came to be in existence. The surviving Jews wanted somewhere to feel safe.
I believe that the Isaiah 43 references apply to the Jews not JW's
ezekiel 28 talks about the "king of tyre" and in chap 28 starting vs 13 what he is made of.
it calls him a cherub and also lists these stones he was adorned with (here is something interesting....), "every precious stone adorned you:.
carnelian, chrysolite and emerald, topaz, onyx and jasper, lapis lazuli, turquoise and beryl.
Well spotted, EndofMysteries. You are clearly observant and a thinker. The king of Tyre must have been king of a violent and superstitious nation. Perhaps the priestly stones suggest that he was a good ruler at first but lost his way.
have you received the same thing on your door?
i wish that i am still at the gated community where i lived there for more than 6 years, i received zero jw garbage!
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Thanks, NeverKnew
You said:
It was explained to me that Satans rulership began in 1914. The world just didn't notice.
They told me that Jesus was enthroned in 1914... The plot thickens.
The last chapter of Matthew says that Jesus was given authority in heaven and on earth from that point in time. That sounds like enthronement to me.
have you received the same thing on your door?
i wish that i am still at the gated community where i lived there for more than 6 years, i received zero jw garbage!
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I love the way they quote the Scripture about "the whole world being under the control of the wicked one [Satan]" and then add, "except for us".
Have they read Daniel chapter 4? It says that God rules. It makes me wonder who is their God.
today my wife showed me the new medical directive and power of attorney form she got at the meeting.
surprisingly she asked if i wanted to fill mine!
i have been inactive for 6 years and i don't go close to any jw gatherings because i don't want friends who only care for me unless i share their beliefs.
NVR2L8 quote:
ALCOHOL YOU DRINK IS NOT THE SAME AS ALCOHOL YOU USE TO DISINFECT A WOUND.
Blood put directly into a vein is not the same as blood eaten..
For a start, nothing has died by transfusing blood given voluntarily.
i'm thinking of printing a tract with some simple but thought-provoking questions for people to use when jw's come to their doors.
questions from christians.
bible-believing christians appreciate the moral values of jehovah’s witnesses in their communities but have several questions that somehow seem to escape us when we are caught unexpectedly at our doors.
Thanks for this, Perry. I am always looking for questions to ask the JW's who come to my door.
I also have a question:
Jesus said that we were to take the bread and wine in memory of him until he returns.
If he returned in 1914, then why do some JW's still take the bread and wine now?
If he did not return, then when and how will he return to stop the need for remembering?
this is a story of two jw couples, brother jerk and his wife sister pleasant, brother easy going.
the ocean.. sister pleasant: wife!
brother jerk.
Marriage is dissolved on death. Romans 7 v 3.
why murder 8 billion non-believers to just turn around and resurrect 20 billion other non-believers?
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Very good point, xjwsrock.
Where do they get all this from anyway?
Armageddon means 'the mount of Megiddo', and is a place in Israel.
It is only mentioned once in the Bible, and in Revelation.. which is a very strange book.
The rulers of the earth are gathered together there for the battle, then there are plagues and a lot of hail.
Where do they get the idea that there will be a lot of people lying around dead all over the world?
yesterday, here in santiago, chile, some stupid ***** yerk tried to kill himself by entering naked to the lions cage in broad day light and while the zoo was filled with people!...
sad part is the zoo personnel had to shoot dead the lions (male and female, 22 years old)... because waiting for the tranquilizers to take effect would be the sarah of the man.... at first everyone thought it was a suicide attempt, but later they found in his garments some kind of letter stating that armageddon had come and that he is daniel the prophet and god would save him... and he signed the letter as "jesus christ".
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3602819/naked-man-jumps-zoo-s-lion-enclosure-suicide-bid-survives-grave-condition-two-beasts-mauling-killed.html.
Sad about the lions, but that poor man was ill.. and he has a mother who will be very sad just now.
i've been using the forum to vent and post a lot more frequently lately as a venting purpose & way to obtain peace of mind with the craziness i've been going through recently as i fade away form the org.
anyways today i'm sitting here at work and thinking to myself about demons... ok i know this sounds crazy but has anyone else out there been traumatized by the thought of demons?
i had a dream the other night, just flat out spooky and i woke and couldn't help but feeling it may have been evil ole' satan and his demons at it again.. i don't want to believe that, (trying not to, & just brushing it under the rug so to speak) but have any of you out there been talked up about demons?
I think fear of 'demons' and 'things that go bump in the night' has to do with the active imagination of a child, which most of us eventually grow out of.
As a little child I was terrified of flushing the toilet at night as it makes such a noise and I thought that some unknown 'thing' would hear and get me. I felt I was safe in bed, so if I did flush I would run and jump into bed as quickly as I could. I didn't know what the 'thing' was and grew out of it eventually.
I also was afraid that daleks would get me and combatted this fear by realising that they move around on wheels and so could not get up stairs. Once again, I was safe in bed!
