the earth is to wear out and cease to exist.. hebrews 1v11, isaiah 51v6-8.
what will happen to those living in paradise earth?.
I agree that they don't seem to listen.
My favourite is to point out that according to the gospels Jesus rose bodily from the dead. They don't seem to accept that despite the fact that it is clearly stated.
I think they believe that he gave up his bodily existence as a ransom and so could not have it back again.
I don't understand how they can't see that the two ideas are not compatible.
the earth is to wear out and cease to exist.. hebrews 1v11, isaiah 51v6-8.
what will happen to those living in paradise earth?.
Thanks, punkofnice. Perhaps I won't use that one when they come knocking, but your quotations have brought up another interesting thought..
The meek/righteous will possess the earth & reside upon it for ever. Are the 144,000 not meek/righteous?
the earth is to wear out and cease to exist.. hebrews 1v11, isaiah 51v6-8.
what will happen to those living in paradise earth?.
The earth is to wear out and cease to exist.
Hebrews 1v11, Isaiah 51v6-8
What will happen to those living in paradise earth?
in isaiah 7:14 "therefore jehovah himself will give you men a sign look the maiden herself will actually become pregnant and she is giving birth to a son and she will certainly call his name immanuel".
this scripture is attributed to the virgin birth of jesus from his mother mary to become the messiah.
the problem is the name of the messiah isnt jesus its immanuel .
Are Jews expecting a messiah now?
where does one find the truth after the watchtower ?.
according to the jw governing body... only jw's are left on earth after armageddon.. so i'm a private bible student and find jesus and all the prophets in total disagreement with this "gov body" who like all religions leaders, are actually the prophesied false christs.. please read math 24 straight... to see how to survive the great tribulation.
only after the great tribulation does the sign of our lord's presence appear.. this is not armageddon yet.. discussion from private bible students is most welcome..
Hi Allenbee, I have often wondered what JW's make of Zechariah 14. That is another end time scenario.
actions and consequences of lot’s wife vs. actions and consequences of david.
genesis 19 talks about how sodom and gomorrah were destroyed.
david under any law: yes, under the law of moses crime: adultery and murder consequence: nothing but blessings from god.
Was the death of Lot's wife actually punishment, or just the result of her not running?
The destruction of Sodom came very quickly so that the angels had to urge Lot to run for his life.
Surely if someone says "run for your life" it is a good idea to run, not to stop and watch what is coming.
my active and in jw wife is up for reading bible together.
thing is she wants to use nwt.. i have problems with that translation as you my imagine.. just wondering if you thought the true message of the bible will shine through the deliberate tampering of the nwt?.
i know many people here don't like or want to read the bible and think it's rubbish anyway, so if that's you, you can save your comments :-).
I have found e-sword very useful.
It gives the meaning of the words taken from the original language, and several versions of the Bible.
Or get a copy of Strong's concordance.
ezekiel spends two chapters (38-39) describing a war that either will never take place, or which has yet to take place.
according to the prophecy, the warlord gog, of magog, will 1) sweep down on israel, covering the land like a cloud.
this will happen in 2) the latter years when israel will 3) be a people “gathered out of many nations” and peoples.
Magog, Meshech and Tubal were all sons of Japheth in Genesis 10. The Ezekiel quote refers to their descendants.
just writing down some notes to share with jws when i meet them.
here are a few of the problems of logic i see in their doctrines.
perhaps you can add to them.. systemic contradictions – jws boast about fighting for religious freedom – that is their freedom to share their differing views with people outside the organization - yet there is no freedom amongst members to disagree with any official teaching within the organization without the threat of losing friends and family.
They come to my door and say they have the truth but later on change their doctrine.
If it was the truth the first time round, why change?
It would be better to find the truth first and then tell me.
just writing down some notes to share with jws when i meet them.
here are a few of the problems of logic i see in their doctrines.
perhaps you can add to them.. systemic contradictions – jws boast about fighting for religious freedom – that is their freedom to share their differing views with people outside the organization - yet there is no freedom amongst members to disagree with any official teaching within the organization without the threat of losing friends and family.
They come to my door and try to dismantle mine. I look on it as a debate rather than an attack.
