Posts by Carol1111

i was trying to find something recent that i can show "still ins" in my sphere but it is proving harder than anticipated.. most of what i am seeing is couched in confusing goblygook wt style prattle.. my wife argues that it's not even true and i think that's the case with most jaydubs.. so i guess if it is a teaching that is being allowed to fade, maybe it's not worth pursuing?.

any of you scholars out there got anything recent clear and handy?.

Carol1111

If the new covenant is only for the 144000, that must mean that the rest are under the old covenant, ie the law of Moses.

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JW bible study

by Chook in

has anyone had a study with jws with the goal of helping them see ttat..

Carol1111

Yes, me. But did not get anywhere.

Two came, but after a while one dropped out so I was inviting just one man into my home. I did not feel safe with that so I told him not to come again after a couple of solo visits.

They never kept to time, often an hour late, which annoyed me.

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If Jesus had to choose his earthly organisation NOW, who would win?

by stuckinarut2 in

we all know that the society claims that jesus invisibly chose the bible students (forerunners of jw) in 1919 to be his organization here on earth.. yet, as we know, so much of what they then taught and did was wrong according to current teaching and practice.. the reply witnesses will give is something like "they were the most sincere seekers of truth blah blah...and jesus could see their potential".

so, pretend for a moment that the current organization and the 1919 organization were both in concurrent existence at the time he invisibly came to choose.... which would he choose?

the current or former?.

Carol1111

I don't think he would choose anyone who did not follow his instructions at the last supper, or anyone who encouraged people not to do that, or anyone who was not baptised into his name.

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What is your understanding of the terms "Ransom" and "Redeem"?

by Doug Mason in

with respect to christ being the "redeemer" and of having "paid the ransom", i would like to know:.

(1) what is your technical understanding of each term?.

(2) what is the watchtower's understanding of each term?.

Carol1111

I don't know why I put that. I agree there was only a block between God man when sin entered the world. I think that was what I really meant. Sorry.

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What is your understanding of the terms "Ransom" and "Redeem"?

by Doug Mason in

with respect to christ being the "redeemer" and of having "paid the ransom", i would like to know:.

(1) what is your technical understanding of each term?.

(2) what is the watchtower's understanding of each term?.

Carol1111

I think the link between ransom and covering has been missed. Adam & Eve felt the need for coverings as they recognised that they could not stand before God without something to hide behind, but their leaves were not good enough, so animals had to be sacrificed to provide skins as a substitute.

Later on, Moses had to wear a covering on his face after he had talked to God.

The holy of holies was protected from view by a curtain, and the arc had to be covered when it was moved.

There was always a block between God and man.

The temple had a curtain to keep the holy of holies from view, but when Jesus died this curtain was torn from top to bottom showing that the way to God was now open through his death. Christ is now the door to the kingdom.

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What is your understanding of the terms "Ransom" and "Redeem"?

by Doug Mason in

with respect to christ being the "redeemer" and of having "paid the ransom", i would like to know:.

(1) what is your technical understanding of each term?.

(2) what is the watchtower's understanding of each term?.

Carol1111

In the old testament, according to Strong's dictionary, redeem seems to mean release or rescue. Ransom means to cover as in covering a roof with pitch to stop it leaking. There are few incidences of these words in the new testament, interestingly, and they seem to mean to pay a price.

I don't know how the JW's interpret these words.

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What is your understanding of the terms "Ransom" and "Redeem"?

by Doug Mason in

with respect to christ being the "redeemer" and of having "paid the ransom", i would like to know:.

(1) what is your technical understanding of each term?.

(2) what is the watchtower's understanding of each term?.

Carol1111

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/redeem

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/ransom

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Circumcision....Perfect Adam....Uncircumcised....1st century Christians...circumcision ont required

by blondie in

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i know this has been discussed many times, but i was watching a news story about female genital mutilation (not female circumcision) and segued mentally into why the hassle about male babies having to be circumcised, christians especially.

even the wts flipflops on this...... if adam, the first perfect man, not under the jewish law code, was given a foreskin by god as an aspect of his physical perfection, why then do so many "christian" people have their boy babies circumcised?.

if a health issue....why did god create the perfect man, adam, with a foreskin?.

Carol1111

Circumcision started with Abraham and was for his descendants only. Why would Christians want to do it?