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  What Terms Do Jehovah's Witnesses Use To Indicate They Are A Cult?

  by minimus in

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  "the organization" is one of my favorites.

  very "cultish" expression, to me.......and you??

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  From a University website, but what do they know?

  any link?
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  Positive about jw

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  there are many thing i dont regret about jw

  learning from jw about cristmas is one of them

  the jw were very open about cristmas, going against the "system" require some strenght and that in itself attracted many to the jw org.

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  imo college education does not teach effectively students with the skills i mentioned before.

  what percentage of the jw population were heading for college before becoming jw? very few.

  not only that but most jw do not do the research that is tacitly suggested in the jw literature.

  how many jw or exjw did go to the library to check references in wt literature?

  It could have resulted in better educated jw. Finding out some quotations out of context could have opened your eyes.

  If we accepted jw teachings at face value, then who are we going to blame?, most people dont blame themselves for ANY thing.
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  What Terms Do Jehovah's Witnesses Use To Indicate They Are A Cult?

  by minimus in

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  "the organization" is one of my favorites.

  very "cultish" expression, to me.......and you??

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  judicial comitee

  marked

  service

  territory

  circuit

  district
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  Positive about jw

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  there are many thing i dont regret about jw

  learning from jw about cristmas is one of them

  the jw were very open about cristmas, going against the "system" require some strenght and that in itself attracted many to the jw org.

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  MungoBaobab

  ok here we have a junior member telling us a few things.

  Do they have a patent on hypocrisy? No. Are they they only ones who think they're always right? No. Are they the only religion that practices shunning? Nope. That shelters child molesters? No.

  Instead of more negative stuff about the jw i want to hear arguments against the above statements

  The WTS is pretty good at calling a spade a spade, as long as they're not the ones under the microscope.

  most exjw no longer appreciate the first part in the above statement, despite the reality that their general vision of the world is based on such a fact

  Plus I'm a kick-ass public speaker, and that's the number one fear in America, or so common perception goes.

  did i miss how you became so good at it.?
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  United Church of God.....jw carbon copy

  by little witch in

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  i found this site today and noticed the similarities including "good news" instead of gospel.

  anti christmas (follow the links).

  heavy emphasis on literature.. i wonder which came first, the chicken or the egg.

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  If you are referring to the the org that used to publish "the plain truth" magazine, it is amazing the similarities.

  I rejected them but listened to their radio program as a jw. Marked the religion as soon as i saw old mr. Amstrong rubbing elbow with presidents and prime ministers etc and bragging about it, imitaing the Pope, pretended.to be considered as such.

  At some point i considered the religion founded by Amstrong was the real good "bad slave"
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  Positive about jw

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  there are many thing i dont regret about jw

  learning from jw about cristmas is one of them

  the jw were very open about cristmas, going against the "system" require some strenght and that in itself attracted many to the jw org.

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  Also, you seem to express a lot of insight into exJWs. I am wondering if these ideas were formed from only your own persepective, from your observations from other exJWs in real life (I am curious as to how many you have known), or from your observations from exJWs online.

  All of the above . Btw the greatest apostate of modern time, as per jw perception, is my personal friend...
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  Positive about jw

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  there are many thing i dont regret about jw

  learning from jw about cristmas is one of them

  the jw were very open about cristmas, going against the "system" require some strenght and that in itself attracted many to the jw org.

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  Perhaps you should stop trying to find happiness within an organized group of people.

  What make you think i am trying to find happines? I found that a long long time ago.

  Be your own person. Just because a few girls outside the org scared you and do not live up to your standards does not mean the whole world is evil and has the same standards.

  I did not say "whole" world is "evil".

  Respectfully speaking, it seems to me that you still suffer from the black and white thinking exhibited by most JWs.

  I see no reason, and you dont provide any, why you make such statement.

  Are you of the opionion that the Witnesses primarily have the truth, but are just run by imperfect humans? I get that impression from some of your posts.

  you got the wrong impression, everyone here has left a "paper trail", you can check to confirm any "impression"

  In my case right on this thread you could get your impression unconfirmed, read it completly. .

  Also, you seem to express a lot of insight into exJWs. I am wondering if these ideas were formed from only your own persepective, from your observations from other exJWs in real life (I am curious as to how many you have known), or from your observations from exJWs online.

  Have ever tried to focus on the postitives in the world of humankind? I think you will find much greater success!

  In this thread i am 'focused' in the title of the topic, but yes i have done what you suggest, not to find success as i already had success achiving most of my goals.

  My participation on this board is related to achiving a new goal, there is always one ahead of me.
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  Why are women angry?

  by Dirt Rocker in

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  we started to "bud" in our blouses at 9 or 10 years .

  old only to find that anything that came in contact .

  with those tender, blooming buds hurt so bad it .

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  Why then women want to be treated as men, they want the same "privileges" men have.

  God or nature delegated women some "responsabilities" that by it self kept them relegated.

  Can you imagine a pregnant woman being the president of the usa. Or that in those particular days of the month the woman/president has to meet in a hurry with security advisors because the enemy is about to attack.

  Some very intelligent women beleive, based on their demostrated natural brain resources, that the door must be open for then to enter anywhere.
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  They say they don't celebrate Xmas, but...???

  by JH in

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  every year, on dec 25th, witnesses in our area gather at a book study group, and they have a dinner together.

  although they say that they don't celebrate christmas, why do they gather on dec 25th like catholics do and share dinner together?

  i'm sure that neighbors think that it's a christmas gathering.. i know that there isn't any christmas decorations there, or gifts being given, but i find it odd, that every year, some book study will organize a dinner on december 25th.

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  They say they don't celebrate Xmas, but...???

  I was out and a few years back i went to 12/31 year end party, out of town. An elder and his wife were there, i guess thinking no 'One' would see them. I pretended didn' see him.

  He was and elder to whom i "teached the truth" while in my teens.

  It all a game they play, if you dont know how to play the game you are out .
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  Positive about jw

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  there are many thing i dont regret about jw

  learning from jw about cristmas is one of them

  the jw were very open about cristmas, going against the "system" require some strenght and that in itself attracted many to the jw org.

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  Markissos

  I became a JW at age 13

  I was baptized at 12. In my late teen i decided to step out, not because of any doctrine in particular, but mostly because of rules which did not make any sense such reporting field service. I had been already part of judicial comitee and voted for dumping at least one, unrepented publisher.

  I went back and married a decent jw, i could not find anything better, the "world" did not make, and still doesn't, any sense to me. The girls outside the org scared me, i could not accept, and still dont, their standards for a serious relationship. .

  My wife assumed a childish attitude and refused to see what was happening. She asked for the divorce after we separated. Have been out most of my adult life and dont regret. I have sufficient experience outside to tell the positives and negative thngs about jw without strong feelings.

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  most of the problems and hurt feelings i noticed in the org were because elders did not followed written wt instructions and made up their own rules.

  Then as an org the wt does the same any other org does, support the managers, cover up if neccesary.

  How long have you been out?