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  Married People are less Creative

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  http://msn.careerbuilder.com/custom/msn/careeradvice/413.htm?siteid=cbmsnhp4398&sc_extcmp=js_wi1_sept04_home1>1=5938&cbrecursioncnt=1&cbsid=014626ac55874d07be5b18eb4a51333c-158374177-tf-1

  "a study of 280 successful scientists found that their creativity tended to diminish once they got married.

  this also held true for musicians, painters and authors.

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  sex drive = storaged energy

  less energy = less mental physical strengh

  before strong competitions athletes are warned about it.
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  Married People are less Creative

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  http://msn.careerbuilder.com/custom/msn/careeradvice/413.htm?siteid=cbmsnhp4398&sc_extcmp=js_wi1_sept04_home1>1=5938&cbrecursioncnt=1&cbsid=014626ac55874d07be5b18eb4a51333c-158374177-tf-1

  "a study of 280 successful scientists found that their creativity tended to diminish once they got married.

  this also held true for musicians, painters and authors.

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  http://msn.careerbuilder.com/Custom/MSN/CareerAdvice/413.htm?siteid=cbmsnhp4398&sc_extcmp=JS_wi1_sept04_home1>1=5938&cbRecursionCnt=1&cbsid=014626ac55874d07be5b18eb4a51333c-158374177-tf-1

  
  "A study of 280 successful scientists found that their creativity tended to diminish once they got married. This also held true for musicians, painters and authors. "

  Too much energy "wasted" in bed.
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  The Global Flood

  by coldfish in

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  i've just read an intersting article on the flood to do with dates and whether is was truly global or a regional flood.. http://www.commentarypress.com/essay-flood.html.

  my father used to be an elder for many years and the flood was one of the things that made him walk away not just from the jw but also belief in the bible.

  he was hung up on issues like the flood taking place about 3500 bc and how that fit in with the pyramids.. i don't know much about egyptian history or the ages of the big pyramids, but his reasoning was if the flood wiped out every human on earth except noah etc then at 3500 bc there were only 8 people on earth.

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  opinions about timing and purpose

  This may be a repetition, but not to specifically refute any particular opinion. The tangent now in this thread is the "timing" concept, which is related to my opinion that a good superior being (God) has to have a good purpose for anything he/she plan and implement..

  A well meaning superior being should relate to his low form creation, about the build-in timing concept and any other natural environment.

  to allow "low" creatures to understand basic "doctrines" which are affecting their retrospective vision and perspective as presented. The bible does present timing concepts that can not be separeted from God (doctrines), the creator, the mentioned "sign" is one of them. It seem bible does try to relate low and superior "timing" (or whatever they call it upthere) concepts, as an example 1000 years = 1 day

  Our concept of time is ruled by earth rotation etc, but god does not live on earth. Therefor our concept of time is irrevelant to him. .

  It was said that it is not possible to know when (in god's "timing") God had a vision or preview of his creations. Following such line, it can be said that we dont know "when", in God's "timing" Adam failed.

  BUT, for our purposes and dimensions it was 4000 years prior to jesus birth. It is obvious that for god to see the "future, "the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done", such "vision" has to be before it happens, even if we can not mesure it..

  BTW

  Most likely God does have a timing concept of his own. Physical creation does not happen in a "timing" vacuum, the moment atoms start spining, the relativity theory or concept of location, size/volume, speed/time became apparent to someone, God.

  Sure the same way Terabytes is a measurementt concept that is hard to grasp for many people. Even in our physical dimention, things get to a point where we have a hard time forming an idea of its magnitude.

  BUT it does not mean such magnitude is not real. AND if low scientist have the condescendence to express her/his higher way of measuring and thinking in terms which at least can be assimilated by less knowledgable persons, we can not expect any less from a superior well meaning creator.

  A blind person can understand, assimilated color by explaining the concept in relation to her/his other senses. She/He can still hear and feel differences in sound waves and shapes of objects. Just tell her/him that there are waves (colors) that can not be detected by the ear, another sensor is required (eyes)

  Using vocabulary utilized by children they can assimilate, not fully understand, adult reasoning. Our moral responsbility (given by god ) is the motive to guide them, "answer" all their question in their litle world, we are god's children...
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  The Watchtower: Sincere Old Men or Deliberate Deceivers?

  by metatron in

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  when a witness encounters injustices engendered by the watchtower and considers them.

  with clarity of mind, he is likely to suppose that , at worst, the old men who run things.

  are sincere but misguided.

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  If we are so concerned about the wt and knowing the role organizations play in our sociaty,

  with moral responsability then we should be able to provide a complete real answer instead of just criticism, if we can't then...

  Lets assume you are a GB member and your proposal (complete real answer) has the chance of being approved.

  What would you suggest, I mean generally speaking, i don't think anyone is able to come up with a new set of fail proof, proven doctrines.

  What should be told, regarding major doctrines what should jw beleive, what should they do and expect from now on.

  Have in mind that discarding 1914 will have other implications such as on the FDS doctrine.

  Do you have experience runniing a major corporation?

  What do you think will be the implications of implementing your suggestions? Think about the collective and think also in legal, moral, religious and economic terms. Will it create other problems?

  Will you suggestion expose the org to legal cases? do we have insurance to cover potential damages?

  What the role of the GB will be?, those are the question that quickly come up.
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  The Global Flood

  by coldfish in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've just read an intersting article on the flood to do with dates and whether is was truly global or a regional flood.. http://www.commentarypress.com/essay-flood.html.

  my father used to be an elder for many years and the flood was one of the things that made him walk away not just from the jw but also belief in the bible.

  he was hung up on issues like the flood taking place about 3500 bc and how that fit in with the pyramids.. i don't know much about egyptian history or the ages of the big pyramids, but his reasoning was if the flood wiped out every human on earth except noah etc then at 3500 bc there were only 8 people on earth.

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  A cristian,

  You ask questions which the finite mind of man is probably unable understand the answers to, even if we are given their answers.

  For the questions you ask are both related to our dimension of time.

  Since the "sign" is "related to our dimension of time", such as 4000 years "before jesus etc, i thought my question was appropriate.

  And since you have been able to see the "sign". I sincerely decided to ask you some more question. I appreciate your answers, which included:

  I don't have all the answers. I wish I did.

  That's much better than wt answer.Then i will be back on stand by, save unanswered "tough" questions, try to do my best within humans limitations, and wait for new light.
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  The Global Flood

  by coldfish in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've just read an intersting article on the flood to do with dates and whether is was truly global or a regional flood.. http://www.commentarypress.com/essay-flood.html.

  my father used to be an elder for many years and the flood was one of the things that made him walk away not just from the jw but also belief in the bible.

  he was hung up on issues like the flood taking place about 3500 bc and how that fit in with the pyramids.. i don't know much about egyptian history or the ages of the big pyramids, but his reasoning was if the flood wiped out every human on earth except noah etc then at 3500 bc there were only 8 people on earth.

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  A Cristian,

  I think you know as well as I do what my answer to that question will be.

  Not really, sincerely, that's why i did not ask a "gravity" dropped question that will follow..

  For the Bible tells us that God knows, "the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done." (Isaiah 46:10)

  So he knew about satan and company before she/he became satan...

  AND God knew about the failing of his human creation before he cretated them.

  I have been asking the following (modified) questions since i have heard about the matter for the fist time.

  Would you build a condo building if you knew it was going to fall and kill most residents?

  would you review the design?

  or would you design "help" for a very minority group, and another kind of help for another larger group? (potential surivors) knowin full well that the great majority of residents will not survive.

  know the jw answer... my question is still up in the air as the jw answer, as i understand, is lacking convincing arguments. The bible which i am willing to beleive to a greater extent has to make sense. "Science", cause and effect tell me the condo building was not designed properly, in fact it was brand new when it falled.

  I am not kidding nor trying to waste my time nor your time..
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  The Watchtower: Sincere Old Men or Deliberate Deceivers?

  by metatron in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when a witness encounters injustices engendered by the watchtower and considers them.

  with clarity of mind, he is likely to suppose that , at worst, the old men who run things.

  are sincere but misguided.

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  were doctrines devised to deceive?
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  The Global Flood

  by coldfish in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've just read an intersting article on the flood to do with dates and whether is was truly global or a regional flood.. http://www.commentarypress.com/essay-flood.html.

  my father used to be an elder for many years and the flood was one of the things that made him walk away not just from the jw but also belief in the bible.

  he was hung up on issues like the flood taking place about 3500 bc and how that fit in with the pyramids.. i don't know much about egyptian history or the ages of the big pyramids, but his reasoning was if the flood wiped out every human on earth except noah etc then at 3500 bc there were only 8 people on earth.

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  One,

  That's not too tough. God anticipated a problem and provided help for it in advance, help that would be understood at the appropriate time.

  Ok the "help", to resolve a problem, was the "sign".

  When did God "anticipated a problem"?
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  The Watchtower: Sincere Old Men or Deliberate Deceivers?

  by metatron in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when a witness encounters injustices engendered by the watchtower and considers them.

  with clarity of mind, he is likely to suppose that , at worst, the old men who run things.

  are sincere but misguided.

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  as i mentioned before "Religion and emotions are hard to deal with" no matter on what side of the controversy a person is located.

  "Sincere Old Men or Deliberate Deceivers?"

  would it be a deper question to ask

  do they have an open mind?

  do they have what it takes to analyse the issues?

  unless we know them very well it is hard to tell.

  who knows.. some may be find themselves with no options, just keep quite or leave at old age.

  Any jw with a reasonable mind, after reaching the top or near the top, must conclude it is all BS

  BUT this "wait on jehovah" mind set is hard to disregard, the bible itself suport it.. Even Satan was loose up in heaven and now on earth "waiting" for J.
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  The Watchtower: Sincere Old Men or Deliberate Deceivers?

  by metatron in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when a witness encounters injustices engendered by the watchtower and considers them.

  with clarity of mind, he is likely to suppose that , at worst, the old men who run things.

  are sincere but misguided.

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  metatron

  If they are sincere, they do the above

  "blind" can not guide.

  It must be a trip feeling "choosen".

  so they find support in jesus words and experience, Jesus was accused of doing this and that, that he even proposed to rebuild the temple in three (3) days if destroyed, no pearls to swine,

  after all, most if not all traditional anti jw literature is very antagonic, instead of presenting just facts.

  It is about saving face, about my religion, my country, my state, my city, my neigborhood, my family RIGHT OR WRONG, why should i give ammunitions to the enemy.

  Leaders and most citizens will alwasy find that what their country have done was justified and there is no need for apologies.

  Religion and emotions are hard to deal with.